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BudgieMania, do gaming w We all have 'that game'. For me, it's Europa 1400: The Guild. What's your's?

For me, it's any of the Total War games I like, or Battlefield 1, or Left 4 Dead 2, or any From Soulslike.

I like to call them evergreen games, because I'm a total snob. The kinds of games that you can always go back to no matter how long it's been, that you always know how to play by instinct at this point, that always entertain, feel weirdly comfy and make for great choices when you don't know what you wanna do. God bless them.

shanghaibebop,

Which total wars though

BudgieMania,

That's a decently long list lol, Medieval 2, Rome 1, Rome 2, Attila, Napoleon, Shogun 2 sorta... (I don't dislike the ones not listed, I just vibe less with them)

If you count mods and expansions, the list gets much larger, Medieval 2 Kingdoms, Empire Divided, Age of Charlemagne, The Great War, Divide Et Impera, 1212, 1100, The Third Age... And there are even more that have piqued my interest but haven't had a chance to play.

Aaaah it's such a rich series!

bermuda, do gaming w "Let's see Paul Allen's Fallout"

I don’t care if I get crucified for it, but for all its flaws I enjoyed Fallout 3 and 4 far more than I enjoyed Fallout: New Vegas. Maybe it’s because I’m more of a shooty shooty bang bang blow up gamer than an intertribal politics gamer, but I just liked them better.

all-knight-party,
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For me, Fallout 3's setting and atmosphere is more interesting to me. Plus nostalgia plays a much heavier aspect since it was my first Bethesda Fallout and the premise and mechanics of the world were more novel.

Gameplay wise 4 blows both of the others out of the water for me due to the addicting loop of collecting salvage and modifying equipment, along with the shooting finally becoming enjoyable in its own right.

bermuda,

Yeah I found 3’s atmosphere to be pretty interesting too. I liked the feeling of danger and tension throughout the world, and how scary it was to make those first few journeys out from megaton as an early-level player. Not to say NV didn’t have that feeling at times, but the atmosphere certainly made it feel a little safer.

As much of a retcon as it is to have such a disastrously destroyed world at the time period it was set, I still think it was a good choice to go “all out” with it.

Hyperi0n,

The atmosphere in FO3 was absolutely garbage.

It’s like they cherry picked elements of the originals and then cobbled them together into a very bad Fallout.

To date FO3 is the worst Fallout for atmosphere. Even sitting below the unmentionable.

setsneedtofeed,
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The atmosphere, taken moment to moment, or at individual locations was good. The coherency of the explanations behind a lot of things and the coherency of the world as a whole was pretty disjointed.

ivanafterall, do gaming w "Let's see Paul Allen's Fallout"

Fallout 3 is superior.

PugJesus,
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As we live in (post-apocalyptic) AMERICA, where DEMOCRACY IS NON-NEGOTIABLE, you are entitled to your wrong opinion

ivanafterall,

I don't want to set the world on fire. I just want to start a flame in your heart.

chaogomu,

This is why you're wrong.

New Vegas is a better game. And I mean that in the sense that you can go more places and interact with the story and setting in more ways in New Vegas. Also, what do they eat? Fallout 3? unknown. New Vegas? you see corn fields and such all over the place.

In Fallout 3, the NPCs have no existence beyond their part in the highly scripted story. You choices in game don't matter at all in the way the story ends.

New Vegas has little bits and pieces of setting and backstory for random NPCs that you might never meet, and the story can be completed in different ways, your choices matter.

some_guy,
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What kind of pretentious bullshit is this?

setsneedtofeed, (edited )
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Designing coherent spaces is useful for game world designers to think about, but it could have been 5 minutes long and gotten the point across.

bermuda,

its not a good anti-fallout 3 video if it’s not at least 4 hours long

also, I too judge games based on whether there is evidence for subsistence farming. such gaming. much enjoyable.

chaogomu,

Evidence of farming, or any food source for the NPCs shows that the makers of the game were actually thinking about the world as a livable space.

Fallout 3 devs were just thinking about a world where the story happens, nothing more. And it often shows. You run into little immersion breaking moments, especially if you go too far off the rails. Stay on the rails and it was a solid game.

New Vegas had devs who really paid attention to the details of the world, and if you went off the rails, it became an amazing game.

PugJesus,
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I don't disagree on why NV is a better game, but do we really need an in-depth argument about it? Just do some bantz and let the guy have his opinion.

Renacles,

The capitol wasteland is in much worse shape than the Mohave. From what we see in Fallout 3, people generally eat squirrels, iguanas and pre-war food.

The capitol wasteland pretty much works on the basis of scavenging and trading with the occasional herd of brahmin or small farm here and there.

Fallout 3 also has a big emphasis on water, Megaton has a water purifier that is about to give out while other settlements just drink irradiated water or trade with merchants.

The main story in Fallout 3 is terrible but the world building is pretty solid overall.

chaogomu,

The main issue with the pre-war food is that it's been 250+ years. Sure, you might find a cache or two, but overall, it will have been scavenged already.

The honest truth is, food and water sources for anyone in the capital wastes was never seen as important to the writers of the story, So it was cut. Well, it was cut if it was ever written at all in the first place.

The story of Fallout 3 is very linear. Which means that it can be tightened up and polished, and it was. But if you go even a little bit off the rails, it starts showing cracks that are immersion breaking.

New Vegas didn't have that fully polished main story. Instead, it had a polished game world. One that felt alive and vibrant.

It's the reason why people have x amount of time playing Fallout 3, and three or four times that amount playing New Vegas.

Renacles,

Fallout 3 takes place 200 years after the war and, like I said, the main story is terrible but most of the game has nothing to do with it.

New Vegas’ world is mostly empty and static, the writing and RPG mechanics like reputation are what make the game as good as it is.

The thing about New Vegas vs Fallout 3 is that they have different target audiences, Fallout 3 is a game about exploring and immersion while New Vegas is an old school rpg with big decisions central hubs.

chaogomu,

I really don't think you played New Vegas much if you think it wasn't about exploring and finding new shit all over the place.

Fallout 3 had the quest hubs. Also, the fact that water was super important to the story, but aside from one beggar, no one seemed to care about it much.

But New Vegas, well, everyone wanted power from that dam.

It comes down to, what do they eat? Fallout 3, nothing. NPCs don't eat, so there's no need to actually put that into the game, and since that part isn't in the game, a lot of other shit likely isn't.

New Vegas, they have farms and ecology and all sorts of other shit, and it's all over the place.

Renacles,

I have over 200 hours in New Vegas, the map is not very interesting, the quests are.

I already went over how people in Fallout 3 get food, it’s there.

Dalek_Thal, do gaming w Girlboss+Malewife Dragon Age 2 fanart (by PhantomKiwi)
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As an Isabella romancer, I approve this message

Davel23, do gaming w Apparently, I have a proficiency in cheater dice. There are two 19 faces.

Nah, that's the 61 face.

OttoVonGoon, do gaming w It is time!

The character creator is amazing! I can’t believe how good the faces and hair look! I made a beautiful female forest gnome druid and then ended up making a male guardian that was even more beautiful.

chloyster, do gaming w It is time!

Seeing all my friends jump on this has made it quite tempting. But I really need to finish some other stuff first I think. Hope you have fun!!!

thingsiplay, do gaming w Average conversation in Battania (Mount and Blade 2 meme)
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@PugJesus Do you use a program to automate the posting? In 1 month you already have over 900 threads created. Every few minutes a new one is created. I assume you just copy existing memes in an automated way and post them.

PugJesus,
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No, I'm just a cripple who works from home and has a huge backlog of favorites saved up over the years. The memes mostly aren't mine, but I don't automate the posting. I'm just bored and trying to justify having all of this shit collecting cobwebs on my hard drive the last few years, lmao.

TheOakTree,

So, a sheer dedication to the memeage.

Bravo!

thingsiplay,
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@PugJesus That's actually impressive!

chloyster, do gaming w "Look, I'm not racist, but there are an awful lot of Khajit around here..."

Hey there. We are going to remove this post as the mod team finds it to be in poor taste. Thanks for understanding

thumbtack, do gaming w Mmm... sweet skooma...

i’ve been playing a khajiit in my current run through and have been really heavy on the rp, using khajiit speak mods and such. khajiit likes this, [character name] wants that, “this one”, the works. it’s gotten bad enough that i’ve caught myself almost replying to people in real life with khajiit speak rather than using “i” pronouns on multiple occasions 💀💀

gnomesaiyan, do games w Two Roads to Jedi-hood. Great article about what a roleplaying game is from 2004.
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Imagine posing for a picture and stopping the photographer to say “wait a sec, I gotta light this cigar so I look like a bad ass”.

BigTrout75, do gaming w "Going digital will be cheaper for consumers because we can cut out the middle men", they said.

It bounces to $9.99 steamdb.info/sub/321376/

megopie, do gaming w We all have 'that game'. For me, it's Europa 1400: The Guild. What's your's?

KSP with the realism overhaul mod and realistic progression 1.

I just never get over the beauty of seeing a dual centaur upper stage gently drift away from an atlas booster before lighting up those stunning twin blue flames, careening deep in to the abyss of space.

Kajo, do gaming w We all have 'that game'. For me, it's Europa 1400: The Guild. What's your's?

The Binding of Isaac

Or Slay the Spire, if I want a turn based game.

captainkaba,

You should check out Across the Obelisk, it’s a beefed up version of StS and I really think it’s heavily overlooked

Kajo,

It’s on my steam wishlist, now. Thank you for the recommendation.

SilverCode, do gaming w It is time!

I’m jealous of that download speed. Took me an hour to download and during that time my wife decided we had to go out for dinner. So now I don’t get to play until after work tomorrow 😔

bijuice,

I’m jealous of your internet speed! I’m getting 5MB/s down so I’ll have to play it tomorrow too :(

Stillhart,

Took me 5 hours this morning. I got 30-40 Mbps for most of the time until it started speeding up finally for the last hour. Finally in tho! (Except for this work meeting…)

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