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Wahots, do gaming w Subnautica 2 Devs Quickly Clarify That, No, It's Not A Live-Service Thing

I hope Subnautica 2 is better than BZ. The original was so good, just was missing co-op with friends.

ArmoredThirteen,

A core part of the first game is how isolated you are though. I don’t usually say this with survival crafters, but for me coop would take away more than it would provide

madcaesar,

You don’t have to play co-op, but I wanted co-op so badly. I just want more good, ideally LAN co-ops, they are a dying breed.

SatouKazuma,
@SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

I just want more co-ops in general. They, and the racing genre, are two things that are dying that I’m sad to see go.

PowerCrazy,

There is a mod that enables co-op for Subnautica. It was a pretty fun, but when I played it a few years ago, it didn’t really add anything, it was just that you could have two people going through the story together and harvesting resources etc.

ArmoredThirteen,

My thing about it is designing for both an isolated feel and a cohesive co-op may be impractical, and I’d prefer they focus on the part of it that makes it really stand out. There are also things like how do you progress world events, can either player trigger them, do they have to be in the same area together, etc which all adds design overhead.

I also want more good co-op games they’re a lot of fun. Personally I don’t think this is the right series to target for it though, but also idk what direction they’re taking it so co-op may fit well with the new one.

madcaesar,

They literarily didn’t need to change a single thing for me. Exact game just let a buddy forage and build with me. It would be amazing and relaxing!

Faydaikin,
@Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

All the more reason to keep it “quite” and expansive like the first game.

BZ was so noisy and tiny. That, combined with other players would be terrible.

I think OG Subnautica could be fun with a Co-op mode. But any more players than that would ruin it.

Wahots,

I always enjoy a game solo at first, then do co op with friends. It was really fun solo. But I’d like to create a giant underwater farm with friends, and have various seamoths and other vehicles to use with buddies. The multiplayer mod works, it’s just buggy as mods are.

Holyginz, do games w NieR 3 Already Exists, But Not For Long

I dont think there are any series I’m invested in the story enough to play a shitty mobile/gacha game for.

java, do gaming w Hogwarts Legacy Just Broke A 14-Year Games Industry Streak – For the first time since 2008, something other than Call of Duty or a Rockstar game was the best-seller

Oh no somebody doesn’t like trans people, let’s shit in comments about a moderately related game for like forever /s

You want acceptance, but you can’t accept the fact that somebody disagrees with you. That’s pathetic.

xor,

“Moderately related” as in “written by and with royalties paid to”

People, and trans people especially, absolutely have good reason to not want to buy a product that directly funds a person who is actively hostile to their existence.

You can’t deal with critical comments from a community who are directly affected by the actions of a major stakeholder? That’s pathetic.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

what has she even said exactly about trans people, ‘actively hostile to their existence’ sounds like shes called for genocide???

i_ben_fine,
@i_ben_fine@lemmy.one avatar

stupid sealioning.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

for anyone else who hasnt heard this term before:

Sealioning Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity, and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.

does that sum up what you think i said lmao?

i_ben_fine,
@i_ben_fine@lemmy.one avatar

Yeah, you’re doing that in this thread. Pretty good example.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

me when i expect everyone to be up to date on everything at all times that i care about.

rainynight65,

She actively campaigns against trans rights and has said that if you buy her stuff, you support her position.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

shes wrong about the second part if she said that, it just means you dont care enough about their position (/ them) to stop you or you believe in art ≠ artist. about the first part, it’s too vague for me to take a stance on. if shes called for their deaths thats horrific. if she said that trans minors should get a 40 minute psych checkup before irreversible surgery, i couldnt care less.

rainynight65,

I suggest you do your own research then. From everything I’ve read, JKR is a horrible person and virulently anti-trans. There are a lot of ways to br horrific without outright calling for people’s deaths.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

i dont put that much weight on some random authors societal takes to research them. if shes calling to take away trans peoples votes or for them to be removed from the work force or something insane thats wrong. if shes just saying ‘idc about peoples preferred pronouns’ i couldnt gaf, shes one person of billions, so what honestly.

rainynight65,

She’s one person influencing millions, if not billions, that’s for sure. She’s not some random author, she is one of the most well known personalities of the 20th and 21st century. Her opinions carry weight, as misguided as that may be on the part of her followers.

I’d partially agree with you if we were talking about some random who has sold a few hundred kindle copies of their book on Amazon and is spewing nonsense. And even then I’d call for people to not support that author in any way shape or form. JKR is however hugely influential, and that absolutely should matter when it comes to deciding who you give your money to.

The_Sasswagon,

First: she doesn’t need to say anything specifically or explicitly to be a transphobe actively hostile to the existence of trans people.

Second: she says things and creates spaces that are very specifically and explicitly hostile to the existence of trans people.

Third: she associates with and collaborates with people who openly advocate for “reductions in trans people”.

Honestly I could go through my understanding of her issue, but many people have spoken at great length about why her behavior is harmful. If you’re truly interested seek them out.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

‘hostile to the existence of trans people’ “reductions in trans people”

either she genuinely wants genocide or youre being intentuonally misleading, this sounds like hitler describing jews.

apotheotic,

She basically wants genocide, yes. The person you’re replying to was accurate.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

thats horrible but if so thats totally illegal and she’d be imprisoned, can you provide a source.

apotheotic,

You can search up “jk Rowling transphobic” or “jk Rowling anti trans” and you’ll find a plethora of sources yourself, this isn’t really a controversial thing. She’s the most well loved transphobe in the world.

apotheotic,

You’re on the beehaw instance, bee nice.

It makes absolute sense that people are passionately against this game, which puts money directly in the pockets of not only a very vocal transphobe with a huge following-but one who actively finances anti-trans causes. The game itsself has its own incredibly problematic issues, but I focus on the transphobia because that’s what your comment was concerned with.

Quite frankly, yes, we want acceptance. But “acceptance” of trans people as people who have human rights should be the bare minimum. That is in no way comparable to pushing back against this game, or pushing back against JKR.

dangblingus,

Ya. I choose not to support bigots whenever possible. Im such a loser.

doggle, do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games

I’ve been quite comfortable with not owning any new Ubisoft games for a few years now

Omega_Haxors, do gaming w Ubisoft Wants You To Be Comfortable Not Owning Your Games

Companies claiming you don’t own your games are admitting that piracy isn’t stealing

averyminya, do gaming w What Hacked Files Tell Us About The Studio Behind Spider-Man 2

Good read. The article mentions people being happy with Miles and it being a possible way to stop-gap, and I don’t necessarily disagree outright but I do worry that flooding the market with interim games in the same engine might get a little tiring. I mean, that was part of people’s issues with Assassin’s Creed and far cry.

Granted, it’s Spider-Man with a number of variants, so there is a bit more differentiation. Playing 1, Miles, 2, and whatever the next is are all fairly different so it feels more like the Arkham games than the Ubisoft ones. I just worry that if we get a in-betweener for every major release it might get a little stale.

DroneRights,

Yeah, I enjoyed Subnautica Below Zero, but a lot of people didn’t, and I can’t say whether I’d be happy if more games started doing that. I’m much more eager to play Subnautica 2 when it comes out

niske,

I’ve been recently addicted to Subnautica games and finished Below Zero just a week ago or so.

I also expected much worse experience as I’ve heard a lot of people hating on it.

In the end, I had a lot of fun playing it through but I definitely can see why someone would be a bit disappointed of it. There’s a lot of differences to it compared to the original.

Sometimes it felt like it was made much easier than the first one. Like very often you could go quite deep without any vehicles because those oxygen giving plants were everywhere. I liked how brutal the first games was with this. If you went too deep without a vehicle or airpipes, you most likely died.

Also the map felt much smaller and the sea was much less deep. And the leviathan creatures seemed much less dangerous and scary.

Overall it was still fun to play there and while the story wasn’t perfect, I think it was still entertaining.

I really liked the jukebox feature. I wish there was a mod to add that to the original.

And the sea truck modules were a fun idea. But nothing can replace how awesome the cyclops is to travel with. At least in my opinion.

But nevertheless, it was still a subnautica game and I had a blast with playing through it. I am excited for the next Subnautica game :) in the meanwhile, I’ll try to beat the original with some mods and hardcore mode.

DroneRights,

Below Zero was originally planned as a DLC for Subnautica. It was also made by a different team. But it ended up being larger than planned, so they made it a full game, intending it to be Subnatutica 1.5, the same as Miles Morales. Unfortunately, they communicated this poorly to most players, and they took it to be Subnautica 2, which made it underwhelming. For some reason I took it as intended and liked it well enough, and I only found out it was disliked when I went online and saw people calling it Subnautica 2. They seem to have won, because Subnautica 2 has been rebranded as Subnautica 3. But I still call it Subnautica 2 because I remember the history.

As for the seatruck, I loved it. I never liked the Cyclops. Sure, it was impressive, but it was also a giant trashcan with a “kick me” sign on it. I was too terrified to drive it down the lost river, I preferred my Prawn suit with its actual mobility and comparative stealth. The Seatruck was a mobile base that was actually practical to use. And I loved the customisability.

johntash,

I liked the cyclops because of how big it was. I liked the sea truck too though.

I think my ideal combination would be a big cyclops like vehicle you could use as a mobile base, and then something between a sea truck and sea moth for excursions into more dangerous areas.

GBU_28, do games w GTA 6 is likely to skip PC again and only launching on current gen consoles

Who cares? Rockstar is a joke. Play it years from now, it’ll be carried for 10+ years

alokir, do gaming w Starfield Just Busted The Biggest Myth About Xbox Game Pass

I was seriously considering buying the game on release but after 8 hours of not having fun paying it I’m glad I had GamePass to try it on first.

Hadriscus,

Wish I did the same, instead I payed 47e for this shit…

Damage, do games w Every Franchise Xbox Now Owns After Buying Activision

I remember buying a Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback Pro joystick that came bundled with Interstate '76… Hey MS, up for a revival?

clearedtoland,

I kid you not, that joystick and MS Flight Simulator 2004 got me through flight school and several ratings.

grill, do games w Nexus Mods Fine With Bigots Leaving Over Removed Starfield ‘Pronoun’ Mod

Censorship is censorship; I mean, it’s their right, but it still stinks. One day they can/will remove all sexual mods for being too misogynistic, etc.

Basically, fuck people crying over pronounces and fuck Nexus Mods.

Rose,

Are you a centrist by any chance?

grill,

Yeah, probably :/

ActualShark, do gaming w Hideo Kojima Says Death Stranding 2 Will Redefine 'Strand'
@ActualShark@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Strand type games are truly one of the game genres of all time. Bravo

On a more serious note, I am curious on what he’s cooking with the pandemic as an inspiration

TwilightVulpine,

Considering how weirdly prescient the first one was, I'm looking forward to it.

underline960, do games w IGN Boss Leaving After Six Years Following Latest Mass Layoff

I’d rate IGN a 7/10. It has a little bit of something for everyone.

breadsmasher, do gaming w Elon Musk Admits To Cheating In Path Of Exile 2 And Diablo 4 Amid Fake Gamer Controversy
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

musk is scum. any actual news?

Nyciferi, do games w Guy Who Taunted Nintendo About Streaming Pirated Switch Games Before Release Now Faces $7.5 Million Lawsuit

Idiot.

millie, do gaming w GameStop Shuts Down Game Informer, The Longest-Running Gaming Magazine In The US

Bummer. Game Informer was the leading game magazine when Game Pro and Nintendo Power were around, though? I think not. Game Informer was third fiddle at best.

GammaGames, (edited )

Let’s compare circulation numbers:

I’d say they led by a few copies (edit: for the mid-2000s!)

millie,

2006 is a bit late in the game. Game magazines as a relevant medium peaked in the 90s. By 2006 you have a pretty robust internet, what’s the point? Yeah, sure, if you stick them in every single B&N they’ll sell, but Game Pro and Nintendo Power were institutions in the 90s. If you wanted to know about games, that was the way.

GammaGames,

Fair point! Looks like Nintendo Power had well over a million throughout the 90s and Game Pro sat around half a million. GI didn’t start until 1991 so it would’ve been significantly lower, but it started getting pushed harder by 2000.

We’ve probably done more research in this thread than the person writing the article lol

millie,

Honestly I mostly just know because I have a big stack of old Game Pros and Nintendo Powers from the 90s and I only ever remember seeing Game Informer in Barnes and Noble once those became a thing.

But you may still be right! xD

otherbarry,

Same here, back in the 90’s had multiple year’s worth of Nintendo Power magazines & later on Game Pro as well. I do remember seeing Game Informer around & sometimes bought those issues but never really got into them. I can’t even think of any friends that had Game Informer magazines back in those days.

TBH I’m kind of surprised at those numbers /u/GammaGames@beehaw.org posted, maybe Game Informer was a bigger thing outside of the northeast U.S. where I was.

GammaGames,

(According to my hastily-done internet digging)

It was mostly distributed by FuncoLand, and only really started to pick up when they included it in their Fan Club subscription. B&N bought them in 2000 and pushed it hard while expanding stores, eventually they got big enough that they could get exclusive reveals.

So it’s a case of pretty much always being bundled in with another service!

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