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HereIAm, do games w Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection Launch Is a Disaster - IGN

I just want to give a shout out to the Star wars mod Galactic Contention for Squad. steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=24…

It is a bit more involved than your typical battlefront match, but the reward is a Star Wars game we could have only dreamed of in the past. I can’t overstate how good of a mod this is.

the16bitgamer, do games w Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection Launch Is a Disaster - IGN
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For those wondering if this is under exaggerated, it’s not. Now my experience is on the Switch.

This issues I saw in my time before I got refunded was as follow. Texture Flickering and Shadow Flickering (hard to see as a screen shot so this is the worse I saw)

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/08206a09-a6e3-49ee-8143-3663bff5f81f.png

Textures that are still in 4:3 and not 16:9

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b7b25934-dcd0-4685-b4ca-348adb7cb85b.png

Random Texture floating when they shouldn’t be

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/2fabf445-dbed-41a3-9f36-f368a51b442e.png

The lighting failing on the Bridges on the Naboo Map

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6eb4a734-e948-40bb-a12d-889f45daac0a.png

And the FMV’s being so compressed you can see the compression artifacting (and this is a game that ~34GB)

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/fc0704b0-77dc-452b-a953-2cfb3e106d41.png

simple,

Wow, that is… Bad.

approxamatrix,

Lol that FMV looks like it came from a long lost GBA Video release of Star Wars

the16bitgamer,
@the16bitgamer@lemmy.world avatar

This is a frame, it cleans up in the next. However it is sooooo distracting.

BoiLudens,

Well I’m glad you laying it out for us, I’ve got a better idea what I’m dealing with. And it really does miff me on how unnecessarily wasteful the game is with storage

the16bitgamer,
@the16bitgamer@lemmy.world avatar

Ditto, I sadly didn’t go online so no comment there. Well I mean I tried once and I couldn’t connect so I just jumped into instant action. But yeah the storage requirements are a bit unrealistic on Switch. I don’t think you can even play it on OG switch without a Micro SD Card.

Tattorack,
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The original games are about 4 GB each. Together they should be around 8 GB.

What the fuck is the rest of the size used for!?

the16bitgamer,
@the16bitgamer@lemmy.world avatar

My guess 4K textures or the 720p switch 🤣

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

1080p (docked). So you’d plan for 1080p.

But you’re actually probably at least partly right. I’m sure they’ve done at least some upscaling and stored at a higher res which may actually take up more space.

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.world avatar

And not to mention: the original versions actually run fine to this day. Pure money grab and they made the product(s) worse to do it.

rottingleaf,

Headed for Tortuga.

bitwolf,

Wow this looks so disappointing.

It look like they just barely fixed controller support in the original.

I expected at least upgraded textures and particle effects.

Two Battle front let downs in a row (EA, and now this). 😞

the16bitgamer,
@the16bitgamer@lemmy.world avatar

The controls are “fine” for the most part. If you were on an Xbox controller it would work. Space Battles in Battlefront II are an improvement, but the same treatment was never made to Battlefront 1. If I had to complain about anything, it’s that the auto aim needs to be more sensitive and when you blast an enemy it auto locks on them like the console games. Mouse and keyboard this would be annoying but on controller it’s necessary.

Katana314,

Looking at the 34GB install, I’m guessing it’s some kind of massive emulation layer; it’s scary to say but I feel like we’ve just run out of game developers that can genuinely code against the machine itself to optimize install size and performance.

When you look back on the meager specs of old consoles and what they got running there, it now feels more and more impressive.

frezik,

Emulators don’t take up that kind of space. In general, code makes up a small fraction of any game.

rottingleaf,

Bugs with textures and lighting seem just the way I remember BFII.

34GB? Yowch.

all-knight-party, do games w Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection Launch Is a Disaster - IGN
@all-knight-party@kbin.run avatar

Sear the name Aspyr into your mind, and look out for them when they redo old star wars games like this. An underwhelming experience is what I've come to expect from their attempts at Jedi Outcast/Academy and Republic Commando on Switch.

The best you can expect from them is bare minimum passably running games, sort of the antithesis to Night Dive

blackluster117,
@blackluster117@possumpat.io avatar

Nightdive, my beloved

Voroxpete,

Sear the name Embracer into your mind. This is what’s going to happen with any studio owned by them. This is what ruthlessly taking a blowtorch to all of your studios headcounts gets you.

Generally speaking, game devs never like putting out a bad product. It’s a creative industry, and one that people go into because they love games (otherwise they’d be working in fintech where the pay is much better). I guarantee it was Embracer who made the call to launch this product in its current broken state, and probably also Embracer who put so little money aside for server infrastructure.

HWK_290, do games w Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection Launch Is a Disaster - IGN

Laughs in dark forces remaster

all-knight-party,
@all-knight-party@kbin.run avatar

Night Dive should've been given some of these old Lucas Arts SW games. These were my childhood, and I've watched as Aspyr has been assigned game after game of my childhood to be released on modern platforms, and time and time again they either don't give enough of a shit to do anything more than get them running (sometimes barely that, Republic Commando runs worse on a switch than an original Xbox), or they're not given the proper time or financial budget to pull it off.

It's a crime.

SVcross,
@SVcross@lemmy.world avatar

I want to see Jedi Knight now

Zahille7,

I need Nightdive to do for Jedi Outcast/Jedi Academy what it did for System Shock.

Like goddamn it would be amazing.

WereCat,

I was not aware this existed. Thanks for pointing it out! Added to wish list and waiting for sale :D

big_slap, do games w Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection Launch Is a Disaster - IGN

and I bet this made bank, hence why things will never change with online game releases

Snowcano, (edited ) do games w Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection Launch Is a Disaster - IGN

Weren’t there a bunch of mods for the original releases that upgraded textures, added maps and factions and all that? Why would anyone buy these rereleases instead?

maynarkh, do games w Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection Launch Is a Disaster - IGN

The first review that came up for me:

This was not like the simulations.

EdibleFriend, do games w Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection Launch Is a Disaster - IGN
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ICastFist, do games w Final Fantasy Tactics Creator Reacts to Unicorn Overlord Localization Debate and Shares His Own Stories
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The screenshot of that game reminds me of Grand Knights History on the PSP. I should probably finish that game someday

ABCDE, do games w Final Fantasy Tactics Creator Reacts to Unicorn Overlord Localization Debate and Shares His Own Stories

Wasn’t FFTA a good translation and earlier than the PSP version? I loved that.

Ashtear,

Yeah, FFTA was one of Alexander O. Smith’s scripts. He has had some landmark games in English localization, and Matsuno liked working with him.

Even_Adder,

His work on Vagrant Story was phenomenal. Japanese scripts tend to be really boring and samey. Without the work of a good localizer, you’d hear the same twenty anime one-liners interspersed throughout the entire game.

Ashtear,

Or in the case of his work on Ace Attorney, you wouldn’t understand any of the puns if they were translated literally!

dojan,
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There are exceptionally few puns that can be translated literally. One that comes to mind is from a Lipton Limone advert, where Miranda Kerr says 「おいチイ」, when I first heard it I thought it was just an accent thing, but the second time I realised it’s a pun; Tealicious.

Ashtear,

Hah, love it. I’m sure there’s also one or two with 軍人 .

dojan,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

Haha, when I realised I got nuts about it. Tealicious is such a great pun. No one I knew got it, and it was so disappointing.

VaultBoyNewVegas,

I used to see it all the time when I read unofficial transliterations of manga and the translator tried to make the pun work, they’d include a note explaining the joke. Personally I prefer localisation which keeps the spirit of what was meant but the text/lines flows in a much more natural way to a native English speaker.

Ashtear,

It’s a common fan translation technique, and–as far as the criticism sourced in good faith goes–I wonder if it’s the genesis of a lot of the grumbling. Back when fans had to rely on independent, amateur translating to have access to more material.

Maybe some of them would just prefer the “literal with footnotes” approach.

SuperSynthia,

I’m one of these people. Translations/dubs can change the entire tone of the scene if localized incorrect.

Now if there isn’t a direct English equivalent to the Japanese, changes should only be done as absolutely necessary.

ICastFist,
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Just according to keikaku*

*TL: keikaku means plan

xep,

I don't think anyone would've complained if the localization's quality was on-par with AA or Vagrant Story, but it looks to me like that isn't the case.

Even_Adder,

I still can’t find what people are taking issue with here. The article doesn’t really explain.

Ashtear,

The complaints are largely, as she says, “sacrificed accuracy for flowery prose.” Japanese games in this setting still often follow in the footsteps of early Dragon Quest and the Final Fantasy games set in Ivalice by not strictly using contemporary English.

I think it’s an interesting conversation when it can be divorced from “removing insensitive language is censorship” crowd.

Seasoned_Greetings, do games w Final Fantasy Tactics Creator Reacts to Unicorn Overlord Localization Debate and Shares His Own Stories

Hot take: I’m playing unicorn overlord and started it after I read this article a couple days ago. It’s honestly not that bad.

The story itself feels a little shallow, being about 10 hours in. Aside from a certain character being “abducted”, I really haven’t perceived any risk so far. It seems like every decision I make is a no-brainer with consequences only appearing if I make the obtusely obvious wrong decision.

Story and writing wise, it isn’t really the shining example of jrpgs to begin with, so the localisation just seems like a footnote so far.

The gameplay loop is pretty satisfying though, which is why I’m still in it. I’m ready for the writing to mature into a darker game and hoping that this first “chapter” is just a light beginning. But I wouldn’t be surprised if it didn’t happen.

To be honest, if I were going to be offended at anything in this game, it’d be the jiggly boobs on half the girl units for no reason and the overtly sexual way that the witch class character just… Stands there swinging her hips? But I’m not one to even care that much about eye candy. But it’d make a better complaint to me than overly-shakepearean localisation.

Seasoned_Greetings,

For another hot take, I’d recommend anyone looking at unicorn overlord to give Symphony of War: Nephilim Saga a try.

The battle system is built extremely similarly, I dare say even better, and the overworld is fire emblem like instead of rts like unicorn overlord.

Syltti,

Thank you for reminding about this one. I need to get back to playing it.

Purplexingg,

Fucking in love with this game. Bought it on launch and couldn’t put it down until I completed it. Hope they put out similar stuff in the future.

Katana314, do games w Final Fantasy Tactics Creator Reacts to Unicorn Overlord Localization Debate and Shares His Own Stories

The article’s right about the conversation turning needlessly toxic. There’s people out there that are fanatics about accuracy for no good reason, even cases where I’ve seen a “TRASH localizer!” video that convinced me the localization was good in that it avoided repeat words, when they were attempting to state the opposite.

These people seriously need to either learn Japanese to play the game how they prefer, or just be silent and stop harassing game devs.

Cybersteel, do games w Final Fantasy Tactics Creator Reacts to Unicorn Overlord Localization Debate and Shares His Own Stories
@Cybersteel@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t see anything wrong with jelly donuts

SuperSynthia, do games w Final Fantasy Tactics Creator Reacts to Unicorn Overlord Localization Debate and Shares His Own Stories

My problem with the pro localization argument, is I’m enjoying a Japanese property for the sake of its own metrics. I don’t necessarily want to have my dialogue match what’s “normal” for my region, otherwise I’d just purchase a game that was made in the west.

Japanese storytelling (and any other culture for that matter) is unique. Why change it? In Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, there are some questionable translation choices that I just can’t jive with (eg: majority of Cait Sith’s catlike banter and the casts reaction to it is glossed over.)

Not to mention people thinking the original story is “problematic” and needs to be “fixed.” If you don’t like a cultures games, don’t play them pretty simple.

I’m still gonna play Unicorn Overlord but I’m not happy with these inaccuracies.

Potatos_are_not_friends, do games w Ubisoft Says Skull and Bones Has 'Record Player Engagement', but Fails to Announce Sales

As a hobbyist game developer, my game also has record player engagement.

My wife played it for about 15 mins.

tuxtey,

Sounds like success to me. Any engagement is better than none

nightm4re,

Also, this guy has a wife which is a record for lemmy users.

iamtherealwalrus,

Newsflash: Not everyone is a teenager on lemmy, many of us have spouses and children.

aegis_sum,

I’d say lemmy probably skews older than similar sites (reddit)

count_dongulus,

It’s a joke, dummy

nightm4re,

Newsflash: so do I. some people can’t handle a joke too well.

MajorHavoc,

My wife played it for about 15 mins.

Heck yeah!

To me, few things compare to when my life partner is briefly mildly engaged with my hobby project:

third place celebration meme

p03locke,
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Why censor the middle panel of this meme?

MajorHavoc,

In my case: laziness. This version is just what came up in a quick search.

I thought it was odd, but I didn’t want to let the fellow kids know that I don’t know why it changed.

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