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squirrelwithnut, do games w US kids want games subscriptions and virtual currency more than games this Christmas

This is why we can’t have nice things.

andrew_bidlaw, do games w US kids want games subscriptions and virtual currency more than games this Christmas
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That’s what a lack of street drugs does to the youth, the OG subcription services.

TheMusicalFruit, do games w US kids want games subscriptions and virtual currency more than games this Christmas

Just dropping a gift recommendation for younger kids with a Nintendo Switch. Kirby and the Forgotten Land. A few years old at this point, but my two younger kids still play the heck out of it. It’s wholesome, and doesn’t have any in game purchases or online subscription.

tacosanonymous, do games w US kids want games subscriptions and virtual currency more than games this Christmas
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That is super dystopian.

Goronmon,

I wouldn’t say its that bad. Various forms of collectibles/cards have been around for a long time. Asking for gametime for a game like WoW isn’t exactly a new phenomenon.

I think it’s just that there are a few specific examples that stand out. Some aspects of Roblox can be pretty concerning.

But if a kid just wants some money for a skin for Fornite, or to buy a specific world setup for Minecraft, I don’t necessarily see that as some scary new thing.

tacosanonymous,
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While I hate slippery slopes, this is an historic trend. They squeeze in little ones that don’t seem so bad. I accept no games with these predatory or greedy models and I’d argue that kids shouldn’t be subjected to them.

BigVault, do games w ReedPop Network seeks buyer for Eurogamer, GI, VG247, Rock Paper Shotgun and more
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Oh no, this won't end well will it?

FlavoredButtHair, do games w US kids want games subscriptions and virtual currency more than games this Christmas
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I want game subscriptions to be deeply discounted for cyber Monday.

AnonTwo, do games w US kids want games subscriptions and virtual currency more than games this Christmas

I can understand the sentiments of the thread to offer alternatives

Just remember whats going to happen based on your own christmas as a kid, when you got "The next best thing"

Given there's a lot of good picks, it's still a tale as old as time.

TwilightVulpine,

My parents refused to enable me to get into the glorified gambling of trading card games and frankly I was better off for this. I’ve seen people waking up realizing they had spent hundreds to thousands on cardboard designed to be replaced and deeply regretting it. That is while having cardboard to regret buying. Imagine what happens to these kids if the game they spent all their gift cards on closes down and takes it all down the drain.

Meanwhile there were gifts like games and D&D books that let me have fun for a long time as complete packages without needing additional expenditures to enjoy.

There are things kids can like and dislike, and we should keep that in mind. But as adults we should also take some responsibility for cutting through the bulshit of manipulative marketing. They aim these things at children because children only see their immediate excitement and wonder, but not the sleazy business behind it.

EssentialCoffee,

Meanwhile there were gifts like games and D&D books that let me have fun for a long time as complete packages without needing additional expenditures to enjoy.

I see that kid-you never got into the world of gaming accessories.

TwilightVulpine,

When I bought dice sets there was never the risk of missing out on the Ultra Rare d4 and being unable to use Magic Missile because of that. I might not have always gotten everything I wanted, but I got what I needed and I didn’t need to pay a subscrption to continue playing.

AceFuzzLord, do games w US kids want games subscriptions and virtual currency more than games this Christmas

I hope if I ever have a hell spawn or adopt, that I can teach them the ways of not getting addicted to those types of games.

Goronmon, (edited )

We refuse to let our 7-year-old play Roblox, but she’s definitely complained that she has classmates that do. It’s an endless battle for sure.

ratman150,

As a 27 year old who used to love Roblox you probably made the right decision. It’s no longer a good platform.

spudwart, do games w US kids want games subscriptions and virtual currency more than games this Christmas
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Here are some relatively cheap games to give kids that aren’t fortnite or roblox and dont run on some subscription/internal monetary currency:

  • Risk of Rain 2
  • Minecraft (Java)
  • Tunic
  • Stardew Valley
  • A Hat in Time
  • Baba is You
  • Fate (Wildtangent)
  • Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Not the Skywalker Saga)
  • Chip’s Challenge 1 and 2
  • Shovel Night (Treasure Trove)
optissima,

Missing Risk of Rain Returns smh

Neato,
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I would like to add Outer Wilds to this. No combat, virtually no violence, and adult themes are aimed at mild existentialism. Great exploration game with fun physics and puzzles.

For older kids I'd suggest: Satisfactory. Essentially first person Factorio with mild combat vs fauna.
Astroneer: exploration and advancement.

idunnololz,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

Outer Wilds is kinda spooky though. I guess it depends on how old the kid is.

Neato,
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The DLC, definitely. The thorny planet is in the OG game a little bit. For the DLC I turned off scares because I don't really play horror games and it was still very fun.

Cornucopiaofplenty,

Why not skywalker saga, out of interest? Recently 100%ed it and thought it was a fun game.

spudwart,
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It’s relatively more expensive, and requires a bit more modern hardware to run it.

Most every game on this list can run on some 2011 bestbuy/walmart unbranded pc.

Cornucopiaofplenty,

That’s fair, I see what you mean. It is pretty hardware intensive relatively

at_an_angle,
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But I want FortNite V-Buck’s! I only have the default skins and people are making fun of me at school!

pastel_de_airfryer,

Exactly! This is more about the social aspect of these games. Kids are playing Fortnite/Roblox/Minecraft because that’s where their friends are hanging out after school.

RGB3x3,
  • Death’s Door
  • Celeste
  • Party Animals (you can buy a bunch of skins, but you don’t need to)
  • The Outer Wilds
miss_brainfart, (edited )
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I don’t like how much Minecraft has me by the balls. With all my hatred for Microsoft, I can’t let that game go.

On that note, install MineClone first, see if your kid likes it. Can’t hurt to try.

(Edit: MineClone2, the mod for Minetest, as seen in the reply below)

grue,

MineClone

The top DDG search result for that (on crazygames . com) looks like a rip-off or something. I’m going to assume the thing you mean to recommend is MineClone2, a mod for MineTest, which is the most prominent Free Software Minecraft-style game.

miss_brainfart,
@miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

I indeed mean MineClone2, the mod for Minetest.

I should’ve specified, there’s no shortage of Minecraft clones to be confused by.

grue,

Here are some good Free Software games that cost nothing at all:

  • Hedgewars
  • Mindustry
  • Shattered Pixel Dungeon
  • Minetest (with MineClone2 mod)
  • 0 A.D.
  • SuperTuxKart
  • Freeciv
  • FlightGear
  • Battle for Wesnoth
OswaldBuzzbald,

What about Veloren?!

Meowoem,

I wish more people helped fund the development of open source games, if wesnoth had a real budget then it could be huge

Astaroth,

Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Not the Skywalker Saga)

Clone Wars is also really good, plus it has a lot better split screen which is great for 2p coop playing with your kid/nephew/niece or just being able to have 2 children play together instead of fighting over who gets to play and who has to wait for their turn that never comes

MycoBro,

Shovel knight rules

steeznson,

I never played the DLCs or the Shovel Knight adjacent games they made (think there was a puzzler?) but I loved the original when it came out. Might be time to dive back in to that world.

MycoBro,

I only played the original. I had a super shitty laptop that I loved back in the day when I was working the ambulance. Would play it between calls. As well as a special LoL account that would occasionally go afk dying matches. (Sorry guys. Not my fault. Kind of my fault. I’m sorry.

sour, (edited )
@sour@kbin.social avatar

geometry dash

don’t let play if anger issue

jacktherippah,

Minecraft was probably among the best 25$ I’ve ever spent. So many fun hours just messing around with friends.

dinckelman, do games w ReedPop Network seeks buyer for Eurogamer, GI, VG247, Rock Paper Shotgun and more

I wish we lived in a universe, where these platforms can exist on their own, without falling into the trap of needing financial support from literal satan, in companies like Fandom

echo64,

that universe requires people to pay money for content rather than having advertiser funded content that people will just block anyway. which in 2023 isn’t going to happen

Ecksell,
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If these were all getting financial support from a large company, why did they all switch on more ads, newsletters, anti-adblockers, and subscription prompts at basically the same time? Must’ve been only crumbs, I think they will move on and be better off. A few less click-bait titles in the aggregators are all that is lost I suppose.

The games “news” coverage system is a-changin’ again, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Phegan,

Large companies are driven by one thing and only one thing. Shareholder value. So they and their subsidiaries will implement policies that drive shareholder value at the cost of everything else.

PhobosAnomaly, do games w ReedPop Network seeks buyer for Eurogamer, GI, VG247, Rock Paper Shotgun and more

I have (and still do) use EG for most of my news, but that has taken a slide in quality over the years. In general, they’re not receptive to developmental feedback either - though I’m not prepared to leave the blame at the editorial or mod staff door on that one when you’ve got a company like ReedPop coming in with a clear agenda to make more money, and leaving so soon.

My main concern is for DigitalFoundry - genuinely one of the best, most entertaining, and in-depth spin off channels out there.

BigVault,
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My main concern is for DigitalFoundry - genuinely one of the best, most entertaining, and in-depth spin off channels out there.

DF Direct is my podcast of choice when driving to/from work. Their video content and analysis is always my number one watch.

I'd be gutted if they ruined DF.

Poopfeast420,

Isn’t DF independent, and they just publish articles on Eurogamer? In that case I wouldn’t worry too much about them, right now.

Potatisen, do games w ReedPop Network seeks buyer for Eurogamer, GI, VG247, Rock Paper Shotgun and more

We should buy it. Crowd source it and let’s see what happens

Goronmon,

That’s what sites like aftermath.site are trying to do, but we’ll see if any of them are actually successful.

furzegulo, do games w ReedPop Network seeks buyer for Eurogamer, GI, VG247, Rock Paper Shotgun and more

yeah, fuck this 😕

misophist, do games w US kids want games subscriptions and virtual currency more than games this Christmas

As long as FFXIV exists, I can understand the desire for a game subscription over literally every other paid game.

Stalinwolf,
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I got into it a few years back and nearly finished ARR. I found the storyline and cut scenes really engaging, and felt like I was a part of something. But I tried to pick it up and start fresh about a year ago and the bastards oversimplified my class (Summoner), and I swear they even further nerfed the low-mid level difficulty, making me feel most days as though I was playing on creative mode. For those who don’t care, though, the storyline, world and music (holy fuck, Limsa at night and Ul’dah at night are absolutely soul stirring) are really something special.

I will likely try the game again with the upcoming graphical upgrade, but I fear I will always feel too behind on the story and won’t be a part of the entirely new storyline/age that is slated to begin with the next expansion. That graphical upgrade will be huge, though. I play a ton of old games myself, but sometimes FFXIV feels like it’s running modern character models over PS2 environments and grass textures. It deserves to cast off some of that jank and show how beautiful it’s natural world can be.

Nacktmull, (edited ) do games w US kids want games subscriptions and virtual currency more than games this Christmas

F*** big gaming and their microtransaction/subscription/pay to win bull****! Indie and retro games are way better than overpriced AAA titles at his point anyway.

panchzila,

I understand the sentiment but big free games with storefronts aren’t pay to win anymore.

Fortnite, roblox, apex, cod and rocket league are some examples.

Nacktmull,

True but whole payment model sucks in general.

Fosheze,

Why are you censoring words on the internet. This isn’t tictok. You can fucking swear.

Nacktmull,
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