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RightHandOfIkaros, do games w The struggle is real

When Dead By Daylights matchmaking system prioritizes getting you into a match faster instead of getting you into a balanced match, and matches you with less than 100 hours of playtime as Killer into an “Unemployment Lobby” of a 4 goblin pre-made with 50k combined hours ready to bully you for 55 minutes:

(Ask me how I know this lol)

FrChazzz, do games w What are some old games that are hard to revisit, because a more modern and superior version exists?

Not sure if it fully counts according to the question, but I can’t imagine playing any version of The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker that’s not the HD version for WiiU. That dual screen perfects the game and renders all other versions unplayable.

Coelacanth, do games w What are some old games that are hard to revisit, because a more modern and superior version exists?
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I haven’t gotten around to them myself yet (they’re on the docket this year) but I’ve heard this said about Yakuza 1&2 since the release of Kiwami 1&2.

SplashJackson, do games w Half Life: Alyx is Five Years Old Today

Still haven’t played it, haven’t bought a VR gimmick headset yet. Is there a 2D mode? I’ll play it tomorrow if so.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Nope. VR exclusive.

AdrianTheFrog,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

I think there’s a mod for that iirc

Kanzar,

The usual fit site release has a mod included for flat screen mode.

CatLikeLemming,
@CatLikeLemming@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

There is, yes, but it’s pointless. I think some people are missing the point of Alyx being a VR game, the game would suck pretty bad in pancake mode. It’s the intricate interactions with the world you simply can’t get with a mouse and keyboard that make it special compared to other Half Life games. They didn’t just make a regular Half Life game and said “well we’re just gonna force this to be in VR now”, they made a VR game and set it in the Half Life universe.

JustARaccoon,
SplashJackson,

Thanks essay!

zenpocalypse,

But what if you bought a real VR headset instead of a gimmick one?

SplashJackson,

I tried with that cardboard but I’m waiting until more controllers become available

AdrianTheFrog,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

IIRC no cardboard ‘headset’ ever had 6dof tracking. It’s about as far as you can get from an immersive VR experience. I say this as someone who bought one before learning about VR and getting a real vr headset.

It’s like VR with all of the downsides, even less apps, and the only advantage over a flatscreen being (limited) depth perception.

SplashJackson,

What if I were to get the game to play on my 3D TV?

AdrianTheFrog,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

IMO even a normal flatscreen is more immersive on average than a google cardboard, although that’s partially because a flatscreen hides the flaws in the graphics a lot better.

HLA tho needs 6dof controllers for the intended experience. That mod tries to get around it, but that obviously involves some sacrifices.

SplashJackson,

What is 6dof? 6 dads on fire? I only have Alexis on fire, I’m afraid. Will that be fine?

AdrianTheFrog,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

Degrees of freedom

3dof things usually just track rotation, because that’s easier. But for a full VR experience, better depth perception, and more normal interactions, 6dof devices are used which track position as well.

NuXCOM_90Percent, do games w Upscaling is actually good (as an option)

Yeah, taht is more or less where I come down. “AI” upscaling is spectacular. Frame gen is much more hit or miss

The main problem is that, as with most things, people are stupid. They don’t understand that an outlet like Digital Foundry or even Gamers Nexus are going to be harsh on upscaling/frame gen because it actively makes it hard for them to give you guidance on what performance you can expect. So “This is horrible for benchmarking” becomes “This is horrible”

FeelzGoodMan420,

I’m confused. Digital foundry clearly spells out the performance you will get with both FG and without. They’re not harsh on it at all?

FeelzGoodMan420, do games w Upscaling is actually good (as an option)

Don’t pay attention to idiots who don’t know what they’re talking about. Lemmy and Reddit are full of tech misinformation. It’s not even worth replying to.

catalyst, do games w What are some old games that are hard to revisit, because a more modern and superior version exists?
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For me games from the NES era can tough to enjoy for more than a short period of time. They just tend to feel punitively difficult in a way that is not very fun. I’d much prefer a Mario from SNES onward any day for example.

Lost_My_Mind, do games w What are some old games that are hard to revisit, because a more modern and superior version exists?

Rock, Paper, Scissors.

Now you got Rock, Paper, Scissors, Stapler, Banana, Atomic Bomb, Literature, Handcuffs, Police Brutality, Spock, Tweezers, Howling Dog.

And really, who would ever expect you to pick Tweezers? But it doesn’t lose to much, so it’s actually a great pick to twist your friends nipples. Unless they start EXPECTING you to twist their nipples, so they pick Atomic Bomb, and blow up all of civilization in a 30 mile radius.

whotookkarl, (edited ) do games w Best game ever?
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

If I go with unique experiences as a criteria just to mix it up a bit I have a few

Playing xwing with a f16 flight stick is really fun and one of my first gaming experiences outside of nes and arcades. Just really fun fast paced fighter combat. A close second would be everspace or Chorus on a controller.

Playing one of the big multiplayer arcade cabinets like Simpsons or X-Men was the original couch co-op with whoever was at the arcade not playing pinball or pool.

Beating your first boss in a dark souls or elden ring game feels like a big accomplishment, sometimes even more than the later ones when your character gets more powerful.

Going from small groups with friends to raids in an MMORPG feels like starting a whole new game, EverQuest and wow were big ones for me.

Edit: fix typo, add type to flight stick

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

Playing one of the big multiplayer arcade cabinets like Simpsons or X-Men was the original couch co-op with whoever was at the arcade not playing pinball or pool.

I bought the 4-Player co-op X-Men arcade cabinet from Arcade1up and it’s been a blast playing it all the way through with my son.

whotookkarl,
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

That sounds like an awesome experience, I have a friend with a mame cab in their basement that I would probably spend too much time on it if I had one. I went with the cheaper option for mame and arcade legacy using a raspberry pi running batocera, but for some games it’s just not the same without the arcade controls.

oyo, do games w Best game ever?

As someone who is not big into platformers or souls-likes, Hollow Knight.

missingno, do games w Best game ever?
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Puyo Puyo 20th Anniversary. They took the best competitive puzzle game ever made and added a ton of goodies to make it the best package deal. 20 variant game modes, 24 character stories, a comprehensive set of tutorials, a devilish set of chain challenges, and a final challenge where you play against max level CPU while it's allowed to cheat.

It's a tragedy this game was never released in the west, and I can rant for hours about Sega has criminally neglected the series with the half-assed slop they put out now because they know that crossovers will sell better than the main series ever will.

SamuraiBeandog,
@SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world avatar

Absolutely unhinged take.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

?

mohab,

You gotta pick a boring, predictable answer everyone can agree on; otherwise, your take is unhinged.

You know, like Half Life, or fucking Quake.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Ah, my mistake, sorry for liking my favorite game I guess.

missingno, do games w The struggle is real
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Most of the games I play are so niche that 'matchmaking' simply consists of whoever's available. Or sometimes it even requires pinging people on Discord.

ka1ikasan,

Yup, either this or the matchmaking is in find-the-most-toxic-people-available mode. I almost stopped playing online to be honest, I’d rather play couch co-op or even a good solo game.

MentalEdge, (edited )
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Personally, I think it’s about how impresonal modern matchmaking is.

You’re only ever playing against “enemies” and “enemies” should be “hated with the hot passion of a burning sun”. And if you lose, you’re never at fault, because your teammates sabotaged you!

People don’t have to maintain cordial relationships, because they will never meet their teammates or opponents again.

Compare that to stuff that works using servers, where each team is made up of the same pool of people from one round to the next. People actually make friends with each other, friend or foe, and have more fun as a result.

ka1ikasan,

Yeah, you unlocked many memories of mine. I played CS back in 90s, train with bots and learn map layouts at home, then play team vs team in a club. A bit later with ADSL started to play online and it was still kinda cool. When life fast forwarded me to Quake Arena and R6S it was very fun but I never ever made any online friend. Maybe a couple of people in R6 with whom I played a few times but even then the toxicity outweighed the team play fun.

MentalEdge, (edited )
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Surprisingly, that somehow makes for far more enjoyable and friendly competition.

Go figure.

hahattpro, do games w What are some old games that are hard to revisit, because a more modern and superior version exists?

Because if you are playing old version, you aren’t having time to play new version.

Those greedy publisher doesn’t want their old, better and well cared product cannibal on sales of their new products.

MoreFPSmorebetter, do games w What are some old games that are hard to revisit, because a more modern and superior version exists?

Pretty much all the racing games from my childhood. I remember them having super realistic grip and aerodynamics, but playing them again compared to even sorta SIM modern racing games today is just night and day.

I will blame my 1000+ hours in beamNG for some of that. Once you have seen super detailed soft body physics it’s hard to play anything that doesn’t have it. Wreckfest 1 had a decent hybrid soft/ridged system that worked for that game. Seems the second game that just dropped on early access improves on it some, but I’m gonna wait for the full release before I pull the trigger on that one.

Sanctus, do games w What are some old games that are hard to revisit, because a more modern and superior version exists?
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

I haven’t been on Space Station 13 since Space Station 14 came out. The controls are just actually intuitive and BYOND is dead in the water.

RandomStickman,
@RandomStickman@fedia.io avatar

Wow I didn't even know 14 is a thing!

Sanctus,
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Yeah its disconnected from BYOND. I think you can launch it standalone but it also comes through Steam (always free). It was pretty bare bones but now its catching up. Looks easier to maintain and mod on the back end.

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