Idk if I like this. Wouldn’t having big famous Hollywood actors and actresses screw over the industry for a lot of people? Which sucks because just because they’re actors, it doesn’t mean they can voice act - Megan Fox did a character in the new Mortal Kombat and she gave the most wooden performance in recent memory; Keanu Reeves in Cyberpunk 2077 was kind of odd at times, but it was still okay.
I just don’t want these big names invading a space that’s already hard to compete in, and then taking all the jobs because of star power and not their actual talent.
I agree. Plus it will make them even more expensive if they're full of star studded casts like all animation movies nowadays. Just let normal voice actors act.
E.G. the newfound celebrity of the BG3 VAs as they run around on social media. If it was some Hollywood big shot, the likelihood that we'd have the High Rollers one-shot from them in nill.
Then we wouldn't have the glory that is Shadowheart and Bing-Bong, or Astarion lapping blood from a glass like a cat.
Eh, actors and actresses have been in games foe decades just like they have done voices in animated films for decades. Both cases tend to only attract big names to a few games and this reads like the usual ebb and flow of interest from a limited number of people and gaming companies.
Yes, but usually not as themselves, so they were hired on the quality of their voice performance. So lot of times you don’t recognize it is them, which is really what you want from a performance where you really just see the character and not the actor performing.
But, with more of their actual likeness being put in games instead of an opportunity to truly disappear into a role it can lead to their presence overshadowing the character they are playing. Which is a shame to me since it’s a medium where an actors actual voice or appearance doesn’t have to matter like live action does.
Back in 2007 Marina Sirtis (Deanna Troi from Star Trek TNG) did the most phoned-in performance for Mass Effect, meanwhile other VA’s were running circles around her.
Ah fuck this is such a hard read to much emotion. What a beautiful thing the internet is. Reading this kind of unblackpilled me a bit and reminded me of the relationships and realness that are experienced online in virtual worlds.
Seeing as the games industry makes more than movies I wouldn’t be surprised if more actors don’t exclusively go towards acting in games. It pays well I think and typically the work schedule is better I believe(someone confirm or deny this?). I’d love to see more actors on the games side and not as PR stunts.
I’m replaying COD4 and taking notes at the moment for a review I’ve wanted to do for years, coincidentally.
Looking at just COD4 without being influenced by knowledge of the sequels, it’s got a decent story and if you look at the edges you can find contemplations of cycles of violence, and while not to the point of being anti-war it does emphasize the waste of it.
The characters are Tom Clancy levels of larger than life, which is significantly more restrained than what came later. Individually the story beats and scenarios have at least a texture of realism, often loosely based in something real and then strung together in a story that isn’t convoluted.
I could see it being a good movie with the right handling. It probably wouldn’t be.
The characters are Tom Clancy levels of larger than life, which is significantly more restrained than what came later.
Mind going into more detail on this one? I’ve been reading the Jack Ryan novels, and I’m 3/4 of the way through Rainbow Six (the book) right now, and I think part of the appeal is that the characters feel small, as those stories always involve ensemble casts.
I agree that 4 and especially MW2 both feel very Clancy. I might even be more partial to MW2 as it’s got this prominent theme of history being written by the winners that hits all of the notes that matter to me most in movies.
Some scenes in MW2 stick out so strongly to me still. ::: spoiler Spoilers for a very old game. The march through the neighborhood, the White House, the knife throw at the end … ::: It’s funny to me that the controversial moment won’t be a big deal at all in a movie, as there’s no player control.
/Edit: COD’s bread and butter really is big budget action movie moments.
While (classic, I’m not counting stuff ghostwritten under his brand) Clancy characters have hyper competence, it’s to be expected given that they are turbo ultra elite soldiers or spies. Their motivations and ability to act doesn’t reach the point of self parody.
For a COD4 example: Nikolai, the Russian that the player rescues early on in the game. He is a mole inside the Russian antagonist faction feeding information to the SAS. He got found out. He’s being kept at a house with a handful of regular soldiers watching him. When you rescue you him he is calm or at least puts up a calm front and thanks you. That’s a pretty believable guy who could have been a real person who is doing something realistic and dangerous.
In MW2 that character can materialize with apparently infinite types of military aviation hardware, and he is also a pilot able and willing to do insane maneuvers. And he is personal friends with Captain price rather than just being an SAS asset. And he is in touch with a friendly militia group in the middle of Europe.
There is a distinct jump from COD4 to MW2, where it goes from Tom Clancy to Michael Bay.
MW2 is still fun, but it exists in an entirely separate tonal reality than COD4.
I’d argue that those people with infinite resources, or personal friends with someone in high places, exist in a number of Jack Ryan stories, and perhaps it’s a matter of how frequently you encounter it that stretches one’s suspension of disbelief. I’ll also point out that the sequence of events that led to Jack Ryan being president are as crazy as anything in Modern Warfare 2.
I’m not saying Clancy stuff is always completely grounded, especially the longer it goes on, but I’m trying to use the Clancy comparison to capture the essence of an idea. COD4 while fictional, and with moments that aren’t wholly realistic if you really hold them up to the most intense scrutiny has the overall texture of realism. MW2&3 and Black Ops games all exist as throwing bigger and more insane setpieces out with no regard to any realism.
It’s a the last COD with a real gutpunch moment that says anything about anything. The nuke going off it a moment of realizing you aren’t a special main character and you die like everyone else, and that maybe war isn’t just a big fun adventure. All the shock moments have been trying to top it are so dramatic that they don’t have the same effect that the nuke did.
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