I don’t think we need an article to figure out the answer: Slay the Spire was a megahit and it’s a copycat industry.
I don’t necessarily mean that in a bad way either; there’re always plenty of devs finding interesting new angles on the current hot genre and creating genuinely interesting new games in the process, but also a huge number of devs that end up just chasing the trend and releasing something uninspired/derivative.
I really think it deserves its own genre. Games like Cobalt Core, Balatro, Tower Tactics Liberation, Alina of the Arena and Loop Hero are all unique in their own right and differ greatly in gameplay from Slay the Spire and each other but still hold to the deck building rogue-like core.
Slay the spire is the granddaddy of the genre, but isn’t the single defining example by far.
I think the “rogue” in rogue-like refers to the fact that you start over if you die. Not the similarity to the actual game. Am I misunderstanding you?
I think I get what you’re saying, that rogue-like was named after the game and therefore this genre should be named after slay the spire. But I think Rogue named the genre because there wasn’t anything else like it. Slay the Spire is still at the end of the day a mashup of two existing genres.
Rogue was the start of the genre - games that came after we’re always measured against it.
Rogue was a dungeon crawler - a type of game that had been done plenty of times before. Starting over on death had also been done.
But it became genre defining by being the best at both.
Spire I’d say is similar. It is genre defining because the combination of gameplay elements was so perfectly executed that it will become the measuring stick against which all roguelike deck builders will be measured. So Spirelike fits, I think.
The genre can be called “rogue like deck builder” all you want, we all know what it really is: “Spirelike”
Well, you did. And you also directly acknowledged that the genre already has a name in the same sentence.
It seems to be your opinion that it needs another one, even though the name it has is already so well established that it has its own steam tag.
I mean, you’re entitled to have that opinion, and I also understand the logic behind it. But this conversation wasn’t started with “us” saying it needs another name.
I meant that to say, it’s a genre that deserves to be distinguished from just one of the many games that define it.
As a rephrase of that comment, defining the 5 games I listed after one game that basically just came before them would be dishonest because of how different those games all are from Slay the Spire and each other. That’s why the genre is named after what they all have in common, which is a mashup of two existing genres.
What you’re proposing would be like renaming the first person shooter genre to “halo-like” or “call of duty-like” just because those games predate a lot of others and people like them. It’s unnecessary and loses the descriptive quality of the name it has.
Because this genre of games is a whoooole lot of fun! I can’t wait to see the next 800, and number 3562, which is gonna elevate the genre to the next level.
I was for it for the first 100 clones. Now it’s in the same vein as 2d pixel shooter rougelikes, way too saturated. I never give these a second look because there’s just so many uninspired clones.
Everyone knows, the absolute best value add to a power hungry mobile device is the ability to use that power to inefficiently mine some random junk cryptocurrency.
So I hope it’s that. (No I didn’t read the article. There’s no version of this that isn’t a scam.)
I can imagine the traffic jams anywhere along the path of totality. It’s gonna be a mess. We already booked a place in the path, but it’s in the sticks and I’m not looking forward to the lengthy drive back to civilization.
Y’all, the article is obviously written for people in the path of totality. You’re not being clever complaining about the cost and hassle of traveling.
Nuhuh. I tried planning a trip a month ago and everything was sold out and airfare was astronomical. I’m gonna plan a trip for the Spanish one in 2026 a year early
That’s how it was for me in 2017. The path of totality went right over my house. I took the day off and strolled out to my back yard to watch it. We also smoked some meat and invited people over for a party, which was the most effort in the whole situation.
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