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GammaGames, do gaming w KOTOR Remake feared cancelled after Sony quietly pulls tweets and videos

Please no 😭

neosheo, do gaming w KOTOR Remake feared cancelled after Sony quietly pulls tweets and videos

Honestly i just play the originals. I don’t need a remake

zeekaran,

If you’ve played it before that’s doable. Someone who has never played it will have a bad time. It’s seriously outdated.

neosheo,

The combat is clunky but let’s be real, does anyone play it for the combat?

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

it is a star wars game, id expect lightsaber combat to be at least passable lol. i love kotor 1 but my god the combat is horrible

sparkl_motion,

They’re D20 games. They behave exactly as one would expect with turn based combat.

mcforest,

It's not that long ago that I played both KOTOR games for the first time and I have to agree that the game might not be that intuitive by today standards. But now after a lot of people played BG3 it might be not that hard anymore to figure this game out.

EsteeBestee,

As someone who loves RPGs and Star Wars, it took me about 10 attempts to actually get more than an hour into the game before turning it off. It’s just that dated. I did eventually power through the first few hours and then the non-aged moments (story and writing) became good enough for me to stick around. I can definitely see how most people wouldn’t want to play it for the first time at this point though.

OfficialThunderbolt,

I do. The originals were locked behind an anti-consumer EULA once Disney got ahold of them. Since I won’t agree to their EULA, I was holding out hope for the remake.

SirSauceLordtheThird,
@SirSauceLordtheThird@beehaw.org avatar

I’m not sure if id trust the remake to have a more reasonable EULA tbh, and frankly with the originals if you want to play and don’t like the EULA i’d say pirate it, KOTOR is 20 years old now at this point.

Lojcs,

What was special about the eula?

OfficialThunderbolt,

It contains an arbitration clause. Arbitration clauses are evil. No one should ever agree to them.

Jarmer, do gaming w KOTOR Remake feared cancelled after Sony quietly pulls tweets and videos

We knew this was happening a long time ago though. This is probably just Sony making it “official” in an unofficial way. This project has been dead for ages since the dev team was pulled off it long ago.

hamsterkill,

It was given to another team, but obviously radio silence ever since.

Part of me is wondering if the success of Baldur’s Gate has impacted the approach to it at all, given it falls roughly in the same genre space.

Embracer’s financials probably impacting it more, though.

azerial,

It was definitely an EA call. They’ve been talking about kotor 3 for years internally. The devs want it, but you gotta keep up that stock price…:⁠-⁠\

hamsterkill,

EA/Bioware had nothing to do with this remake. It was in development at Aspyr at first, followed by Saber Interactive — both owned by Embracer Group.

This was/is? a remake of KOTOR 1, not a KOTOR 3 which has never been announced.

azerial,

Lol i guess I’m commenting on a different project perhaps. 😝

Linuto, do games w Indie gaming is on the verge of an immersive sim eruption

So, is “immersive sim” just a vaguely plot-driven game in a setting with good world building?

MysticKetchup,

It’s kind of a nebulous definition, but typically they’re games in which you have a variety of options and systems to complete objectives. So things like Deus Ex where you can stealth, fight or hack your way through the plot. Usually the games will have a robust amount of physics or interaction with various objects so there’s always a variety of things to do in a level.

Blaiz0r,

It’s like a FPSRPG

swordsmanluke,

Typically, the thing that sets ImmSims apart is that they have a number of interlocking systems that allow the player to solve objectives in different ways.

Stealth, Speech, and Shooting are the usual suspects, with hacking, gunplay and conversation trees well represented in the genre.

But generally, it’s a philosophy about designing for extreme player agency.

On one end you have something like, say, Tetris. As the player, you can direct blocks, but you can’t stop them from falling. The game gives the player little autonomy to direct. Blocks arrive and the player places them (or doesn’t) until the game ends.

On the other, you have something like Dishonored, where you can choose to kill everyone or no one. You can choose to accept and make use of the magical powers available to you - or reject them all and fight with only human strength and your own wits. The world itself then reacts to these choices and the flow of the game changes accordingly.

I think Larian’s Baldur’s Gate 3 can arguably be called an ImmSim thanks to its insane level of player reactivity.

Basically, if your choices as a player can actually alter the game world and your path through the story, thanks to the emergent interactions of interrelated systems… It’s probably an ImmSim.

pory, (edited )
@pory@lemmy.world avatar

The part that makes it confusing is that all of that also applies to a stiffer open-world western RPG like Fallout or Elder Scrolls. Nobody’s calling Skyrim (or more recently Starfield) an immersive sim. Half-Life often gets included and that game is completely linear and your three interaction choices for combat are “shoot with gun (including wacky woohoo gravity gun)”, “whack with crowbar”, or “sneak/run past”.

Is Elden Ring an immersive sim?

Honestly, the defining thing that modern “immersive sims” have that “rpg shooters” don’t is usually just “physics gun”. Gravity gun from HL, goo gun from prey, telekinesis in Dishonored. Sure it lets you “use the environment” instead of just shooting the zombie with a bullet, but you’re often just using the environment as a bullet.

2deck, do games w Indie gaming is on the verge of an immersive sim eruption
@2deck@lemmy.world avatar

Kenshi 2 here we gooo

Pratai, do gaming w KOTOR Remake feared cancelled after Sony quietly pulls tweets and videos

Good.

kkaosninja, do gaming w KOTOR Remake feared cancelled after Sony quietly pulls tweets and videos
@kkaosninja@beehaw.org avatar

Sony clarified that this is because of them losing the license rights to the music in the trailer.

insider-gaming.com/kotor-remake-trailer-sony/

azerial, do gaming w KOTOR Remake feared cancelled after Sony quietly pulls tweets and videos

As a person that worked at BioWare for 10 years. This is my theory. They just laid off 50 people src: theverge.com/…/bioware-layoffs-dragon-age-dreadwo… Based on my current knowledge, Dragon Age and Mass Effect are still on; however, kotor 3 was pretty early. Some people suggested the 50 people were from swtor, however, BioWare Austin was sold to another publisher Broadsword: …swtor.com/…/929816-an-update-on-the-development-…

When i was at EA, support orgs were moved to internal EA and only the game team was specic to the studio. 50 people does not equal support, 50 people is a new project.

I theorized they cancelled kotor 3 then laid off a bunch of people, then transferred a bunch of people to mass effect and dragon age. I’ve been through 2 layoffs with EA and this is exactly what they do. It’s a shame because it was a long held passion project for a lot of the devs.

tal, do games w Why CCP haven't stopped trying to make an EVE Online shooter for 15 years
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

Icelandic developers CCP

Not

The Chinese Communist Party (CCP),

For anyone else who stared at the headline for a moment in confusion.

sharkfucker420,
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

I was wondering why the Chinese Communist party would be making video games lmao

Kidplayer_666,

Same here

Chariotwheel,

They just really like EVE Online.

otter, do games w Why CCP haven't stopped trying to make an EVE Online shooter for 15 years

CCP hf., doing business as CCP Games, is an Icelandic video game developer based in Reykjavík. Novator Partners and General Catalyst had previously collectively owned a majority stake in the company, and in September 2018, CCP was acquired by South Korean video game publisher Pearl Abyss for $425 million.[1] CCP Games is best known for developing Eve Online, which was released in 2003 and has since been maintained.

I didn’t know the acronyms

clay_pidgin, do games w Why CCP haven't stopped trying to make an EVE Online shooter for 15 years

It should be fun. The Fanfest presentations went well and players are cautiously optimistic about Vanguard. Dust was popular, but not successful commercially. In part, that’s because it was a console exclusive that tied to a PC-only main game. If anyone has questions about EVE, let me know.

ThatOneDudeFromOhio,

o7

clay_pidgin,

o7, capsuleer.

Risk,

Regarding Vanguard - how will it tie in to EVE? Will Vanguard players be able to sell stuff to EVE players for currency?

clay_pidgin,

I haven’t heard anything about how vanguard will tie into the economy, but I wouldn’t be surprised.

There’s a new pirate faction-team-up called "the deathless"and several new pirate ships, and I would imagine that Vanguard players might get faction LP which they could sell or use.

1984, do games w Why CCP haven't stopped trying to make an EVE Online shooter for 15 years
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

I remember Eve Online. Excellent screen saver with spin the ship features.

Chunk,

I just came off a bipolar induced manic phase. I hyper focused on eve and played it literally 8-12 hours a day for a few weeks.

The game is fun. It’s a slow burn and a lot of the allure comes from the setting itself. I don’t have nearly enough time to play anymore. Getting your ship into the pvp zone, finding a group, and finding a fight can easily take an hour.

Nacktmull,
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

I also never really got into it because it is pretty boring. Another reason is the time sink / grindfest this game is. If I want a job I will get one that pays me and not the other way around. That is ofc just my opinion and I send a glhf to everyone who enjoys playing EVE!

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

I played it while I was unemployed, it’s great for that. You can spend your entire days in there, and forget about your problems in the real world.

Nacktmull,
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

I am not unfamiliar with what you are describing. Games can be of help in certain situations and as long as we don’t get too lost in them and don’t neglect our real life there is nothing wrong with it.

AstralPath, do games w Why CCP haven't stopped trying to make an EVE Online shooter for 15 years

EVE is sick, CCP is awesome and Dust 514 was pretty cool. Based on CCP’s comments about Dust it seems like they really understand why it failed which is great. If they can create something on a slightly smaller scale with some really good mechanics I think it would be a hit. I was kinda hoping they’d go for something like CS/Valorant as I could see that meshing well with shipboard combat settings. Sounds like that’s not the case but I’m sure this will be great.

Imagine that though… Small maps set inside capital ships as the setting and named as such. Fast paced combat à la Valorant… Would be cool.

hihellobyeoh,

The only and I mean ONLY problem I had with 514 ( I was in one of the testing phases pre release) was that it was a console exclusive, I can’t stand playing shooters on a controller anymore.

gusgalarnyk, do games w Why CCP haven't stopped trying to make an EVE Online shooter for 15 years

Excited to see more FPS offerings.

paulcdb, do games w Why CCP haven't stopped trying to make an EVE Online shooter for 15 years

All I want is a way to sell my ISK to recover some of the £k’s I wasted in that game. 😳

My jump freighter was lost and every year it was more of a grind to cover losses and just wasn’t fun anymore which is really the biggest problem! Nerf’s made ships bland and anything unique was nerfed so it was no longer unique… and now so much has changed there’s just too much hassle to figure things out! 😞

And it’s not like I can afford the electric to run a gaming pc these days anyway! 🤦‍♂️

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