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saltesc, do games w Court rules Gabe Newell must appear in person to testify in Steam anti-trust lawsuit

While he’s there under oath, can they get some HL3 info out of him?

Kusimulkku,

“Objection, this has nothing to do with the case.”

“Overruled, the public needs to hear this”

Igloojoe,

They’ll never release HL3. They are not a developer anymore. They are just a game store/directory. HL3 has been overhyped so much that anything released would be a disappointment. The gaming market has changed too much from when they made a game engine and released half life to showcase that game engine.

I can probably list a million more reasons why they’ll never release, but those are the big points.

Half-life Alyx was HL3, just it was better to name it not HL3, because fans would lose their minds.

derGottesknecht,

They are not a developer anymore. They are just a game store/directory.

CSGO 2 would like a word with you

LinyosT,

Also the fact that they have at least one other game in development. NEON PRIME.

Silentiea,

On the one hand, yeah. On the other hand, HL:A ended with an obvious sequel hook, and that hook was the ending of HL2:E2. Spoilers, I guess, but the game’s been out for a while.

Of course, that doesn’t mean another game is coming, but it does mean that HL:A doesn’t mean another game isn’t coming, either.

setsneedtofeed,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

“It has already been released. It has been released for thousands of years. Humanity simply needs to reach a point of true understanding to see it.”

Gabe disappears in a flash of light.

phoenixz, do games w Court rules Gabe Newell must appear in person to testify in Steam anti-trust lawsuit

For those being happy that valve is in this position, don’t. Any company that gets into a monopoly position, accidentally or not, will turn. Google too had “do no evil” in their manifest, until they didn’t

lemmyBeHere,

While I agree, it is important to note that Valve is a private company. When you don’t have to please shareholders and do absolutely everything to increase revenue, there is possibility for a level-headed leader that keeps the company customer friendly.

But if anything changes (greed takes over or leadership changes), it could still turn.

sailingbythelee,

Valve is a private company right now. But Gaben is 61 and it goes without saying that Valve is at the top of every predatory tech capitalist’s wishlist. Can you even imagine what Microsoft or Google or Meta would pay for Valve? Steam is great, but that probably won’t last forever. GOG is waiting in the wings if Steam ever becomes enshittified, but most of your library cannot be transferred over.

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

Lombardi is still second in command, right? If Gabe died tomorrow, who would control Valve?

blind3rdeye,

Yeah. I don’t have a lot of negative things to say about Steam, and there’s a lot of high-value stuff. The mod workshop is great. Linux support is top-tier. There’s a lot of good stuff. The only major bad thing from my point of view is lock-in. Having a vast library of games tied to one account isn’t great. And having publishers and mod-makers etc essentially forced to rely on that platform is not good. Steam itself is good - but consolidation of power is generally a bad thing.

For that reason, most of my new games have been coming from GOG over the last couple of years. GOG’s DRM free policy means there’s basically no lock-in effect. That’s a major strength, even if some of their other features aren’t as strong as Steam.

Chobbes,

I have mixed feelings on GOG. I want to like them, but the lack of Linux support is a real thorn in my side… Having DRM free stuff is great and I’d love if more games had DRM free versions, but currently steam actually supports me and GOG wants to pretend I don’t exist… And realistically, I’m not totally sold on GOGs promise of always having access to your games… If GOG explodes you’re probably going to lose access to your games too? I mean, of course it’s easier to archive a game for yourself if it doesn’t have DRM, but unless you do that religiously for each game on GOG you won’t be able to acquire them after GOG hypothetically explodes either… Hopefully you get enough warning to archive what you care about, I guess?

I do totally respect that DRM free copies can make a big difference but everybody argues that GOG means you’ll always have access to your games, and I’m not sure it’s substantially different than steam in that respect for “normal” people, you know? If either store kicks the bucket people are going to be out of luck. I kind of just want to throw Steam and GOG in a closest until they make out, though. Would be nice to get the best of both worlds.

QuaternionsRock,

When you don’t have to please shareholders

Where did this rumor come from? Private companies have shareholders, too, and they have as much say in the profit direction of the company as the shareholders of any public company.

Shares ≠ stocks

AstridWipenaugh,

You’re not wrong, but shareholders look at their investment very differently than stockholders. Private shareholders can’t necessarily cash out whenever they want because the sale of private equity is usually tightly controlled by the company. This means they need to be interested in long-term growth and success. While public stockholders can also hold their shares for a long time, there’s much more ability and incentive to buy and sell quickly to make a quick profit.

Anecdotally, I worked for a publicly traded company for 6 years before they got bought and taken private by a private equity group. The way profitability and trends are measured is night and day. As a public company, everything was hyper focused on quarter by quarter results. One underperforming quarter meant a tank in stock prices, hiring freezes, and a general sentiment to the employees of “quit spending money on expenses if you want to have a job next quarter”. Being controlled by private equity, they’re most concerned with year over year growth and the long-term stability of our operations.

blue_zephyr,

Valve has been the market leader for years and still hasn’t let the consumer down. Their business strategy comes down to offering us the best possible service. Meanwhile crappy stores like Epic Games try to lure you in with free games and timed exclusives and I still gave up on their featureless mess of a platform.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

The only time when I’m concerned that Valve will grow rotten is if Gabe leaves.

ElBarto, do games w Court rules Gabe Newell must appear in person to testify in Steam anti-trust lawsuit
@ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

They get him on the stand and the judge says " so Mr Newell, remembering you are under oath, when is Half Life 3 being released?"

Kusimulkku,

Gabe starts gesturing to his lawyer to do something

“Just answer the question.”

Excrubulent,
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

I mean the simple response from the lawyer is, “Objection, relevance,” and the question gets tossed out.

I demand accuracy in my jokes, even if it kills them.

Kusimulkku,

“Objection, relevance?”

“Public interest.”

(Though in my joke I meant his lawyer, instead of objecting, would entreat his client to answer the question)

Excrubulent,
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

Ah, I understand now. [MODIFYING JOKE MATRIX TO ACCOMMODATE NEW INFORMATION]

“Your honor, I need to fire my lawyer.”

“Mr Newell, no competent lawyer in this country would defend you on this point. If you do not answer the question I will hold you in contempt.”

setsneedtofeed,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

“Bailiff, seize him.”

Kusimulkku,

Half Life 3 drops from his pocket

“THAT’S NOT MINE”

setsneedtofeed, (edited )
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

“It’s actually all of yours. Check you computers, they all have Half Life 3 installed.”

Gabe puts on a top hat, pulls out an umbrella and floats away.

Omniraptor,

This is how we win

Kusimulkku,

Lmao this is great

Socsa,

Gaben will then slowly drop his head and whisper into the microphone with a wry chuckle - “You fool. You have just activated my trap card.”

Immediately, the Half Life 3 release will drop. Gaben has been holding it back, continuously updating for decades, awaiting exactly this moment. The judge, completely flabbergasted at the proceedings will immediately declare a mistrial. Legal scholars will then study the “Gaben defense” for decades.

BeardedGingerWonder,

No comment.

Kusimulkku,

Does “no comment” count as an answer?

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

“There is no Half-Life 3, there will be no Half-Life 3.”

Igloojoe,

Half life alyx was hl3

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

Forget HL3; where’s HL2: Episode 3? I wanna know what the fuck happened to that garden gnome I carried all the way from the beginning to the rocket at the end.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar
arefx,

If this happened I think Gabe would just say “it’s not happening, not at least the way you all want” and then we get some half life cyberchip augmented reality game in another 15 years (it is good though)

ArugulaZ, do gaming w Embracer exec says laying off hundreds of people was an 'agonising process,' but that restructuring is 'how we win'
@ArugulaZ@kbin.social avatar

He probably agonized more about what he'd eat for lunch that day.

brawleryukon, (edited ) do games w Court rules Gabe Newell must appear in person to testify in Steam anti-trust lawsuit
@brawleryukon@lemmy.world avatar

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  • CTDummy,

    Outdoors with proximity to 1-3 other people, where he can move at will and distance himself vs indoors, courtroom full of people and he’s sitting while people move around. Probably not the same. If the guy has risk factors for developing complications with COVID, which we can see he has one which is being overweight, I don’t think it’s reasonable for the court to force him to attend when he could attend remotely.

    Viper_NZ,

    He was outdoors, with a mask on.

    How does compare to being in an enclosed courtroom?

    brawleryukon,
    @brawleryukon@lemmy.world avatar

    He was mere feet away from total strangers who may or may not have been masked when he opened the door (taking the video at face value, and assuming he didn’t send the production team up there to tell the residents to mask up first). Much more dangerous than a courtoom of people with N95s on, none of whom he would need to get as close to as he did for those Deck deliveries.

    Chobbes, (edited )

    Interacting with maybe a dozen people outside with a mask on for a few minutes at a time is almost certainly much lower risk than being in a courtroom with, likely, many more people and stale air for hours. It’s certainly helpful if everybody is masked up in the courtroom, but people are notoriously bad at wearing masks properly, they’re going to require Gabe Newell to unmask for questions, and there’s a lot more factors you don’t control in that scenario… outside delivering stuff you can always walk away if somebody isn’t giving you the space you’re comfortable with… Regardless, all risk is cumulative and you may want to limit the number of times you do higher risk things as much as possible. Even if you rarely do some riskier things, it doesn’t mean you’re okay with that level of risk all of the time. I don’t think it’s that unreasonable to want to manage and minimize your exposure if you’re high risk.

    AustralianSimon, (edited )
    @AustralianSimon@lemmy.world avatar

    Bit different to being in close confines on one or more planes and a court room buddy.

    TheBat,
    @TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

    Close confines.

    AustralianSimon,
    @AustralianSimon@lemmy.world avatar

    Thanks autocorrect check bot

    luna,
    @luna@lemmy.catgirl.biz avatar

    Going door to door in fresh air is something else than sitting in a room with lots of other people and “you’ll be fine” is an insane argument. You’ll be fine until you aren’t. Every person should be able to make that risk assessment for themselves and courts should not be able to force someone to risk exposure to anything.

    DarkThoughts,

    It amazes me that covidiots still don't understand the difference between inside and outside spaces for that matter. If people breath and cough around the outside, shit will just be swept away by the wind. If people do that in enclosed spaces, then they'll just start to saturate the air with germs over its prolonged time. And then you even expect them to take off the mask when they're in the witness stand? Do you think that's like a germ free zone? lol

    CooperHawkes,

    You may have an excellent argument to make but I’m afraid I stopped reading at “covidiot”.

    superb,
    @superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    I think we found one…

    CooperHawkes,

    Ahh shoot. I wasn’t clear at all.

    My family refers to vaxxed people as covidiots. So I tend to associate it with antivax people. I will accept my negative number either way. Apologies for the confusion.

    DarkThoughts,

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/covidiot
    Your family is just wrong, seemingly on every single shit they say or think.

    CooperHawkes,

    Lesson learned for me. My apologies for the snap judgment. And I appreciate the time you took to help educate me.

    Zozano,
    @Zozano@aussie.zone avatar

    One of the most helpful mindsets I’ve adopted was accepting that I don’t want to be wrong any longer than I have to be.

    Strangers on the internet don’t care. The only person you’re hurting is yourself.

    CooperHawkes,

    I wouldn’t say I’m hurt. More embarrassed that I accepted a definition without further scrutiny.

    My philosophy is to always be learning. Sometimes trauma impedes it and a wake up call is necessary. So I appreciate your time and thoughtful response and will take this lesson as an opportunity to do better for myself.

    Zozano,
    @Zozano@aussie.zone avatar

    I wasn’t strictly talking about the definition of covidiot, I was referring to the virus’ transmissibility; indoors vs outdoors.

    There has been a lot of misinformation during covid, from both sides, and virtually everyone needs to accept that they were wrong about certain things.

    For example, I was forced to change my mind about the safety of the vaccine. I still personally believe most people should have been vaccinated, but we need to accept that it didn’t do what was expected.

    At the end of the day, Covid is a respiratory virus, and the consensus of indoors vs outdoors transmissibility had been reached decades ago.

    I appreciated the measured response, it’s rare to see people sincerely reflect on their beliefs so quickly without feeling condescended.

    Wumbologist,

    Wasn’t that like, 2 years ago? Isn’t it possible that his health situation has changed since then?

    Nibodhika,

    Others have explained to you why it’s different, and that that happened 2 years ago and a lot of things health related can change in that time. But even if he had done that yesterday, even if it was the same, he should be able to choose to attend remotely, he’s not asking to be excused, he’s not asking to change anything, all he’s asking is to be able to do it from his home, and I wouldn’t deny that to anyone unless there’s a reason to be physically there, which there isn’t.

    Carighan,
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    Plus, since he’s just testifying, it sucks on a climate level to make him jet around for absolutely no reason, too.

    Chobbes,

    Yeah, I don’t really think anybody should have to go to court in person, and I can definitely empathize with somebody wanting to avoid COVID (even if they’re not super high risk, you never know how it will affect you it seems). I kind of understand the bias towards in person things, but I really wish people would get over it. Sometimes it’s just a lot more practical to do things remotely, and while a video call isn’t quite the same as being there in person I think it’s something we can deal with. It certainly doesn’t seem like it would be that much worse for testifying tbh.

    vivadanang,

    Kotick or Riccitiello

    I mean, yeah, if you drop those two as the alternative, every time, fuck those guys every day and twice on sunday. But… Gaben’s got a very different record.

    I’m of the opinion that he should have to testify like anyone else just to preclude Trump and their ilk from trying to get out of testifying in person.

    Carighan,
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

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  • ryathal,

    Court is boring AF, he’s just using covid for an excuse to avoid having to go. I can’t really blame him for trying, but I’m not surprised it didn’t work.

    ipkpjersi,

    Actually no, I’d let the science speak for itself. Being outdoors with a mask on significantly reduces your chances of contracting COVID-19. Being in a crowded room with lots of other people significantly increases your risk. Gabe is right, just like any other CEO would be right if they said the same thing.

    Crack0n7uesday, do games w Court rules Gabe Newell must appear in person to testify in Steam anti-trust lawsuit

    Is this why they were giving away all free steam keys on 4chan yesterday? I thought it was just Black Friday deals, shoulda known those anons don’t do anything for the sake of being nice.

    badaboomxx, do games w Court rules Gabe Newell must appear in person to testify in Steam anti-trust lawsuit

    Just don’t expect him a 3rd time.

    shapis, do games w Court rules Gabe Newell must appear in person to testify in Steam anti-trust lawsuit
    @shapis@lemmy.ml avatar

    I hope steam is broken up. Monopolies and DRM are never in the users favor.

    TheBat,
    @TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

    No one is stopping EA or Ubisoft from developing better launcher though. People use Steam because alternatives are garbage.

    SgtAStrawberry,

    Someone dose seem to stopp EA from doing it though, as they somehow managed to develop a worse launcher then their old one.

    But I really don’t think that someone was Steam.

    hollyberries,
    @hollyberries@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    What monopoly? If I have to choose between GOG, Steam, Epic, Ubisoft, Blizzard, Rockstar, EA, and others I am going with the least user-hostile, and the one that has Linux support.

    Steam is the only one that actually cares about the quality of a service, so maybe look at that instead of crying monopoly.

    quams69,

    They literally don’t know what a monopoly is, they just asked for Steam to be “broken up”

    hollyberries,
    @hollyberries@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    I can see why Steam seems to have a monopoly on PC gaming. Pretty much everybody uses Steam as a launcher and store, and Valve has seen success with the Steam Deck so thats the hardware field also covered. They even managed to upset Nintendo when the Switch emulator was showcased lol.

    A good size of the fanbase are also massive Valve fanboys, so there is a lot of brand loyalty, making the service have a larger presence than others.

    At the end of the day, the fact remains is that there are other storefronts, launchers, and Valve has even opened up the Steam Deck’s specs and OS. Theres like, no monopoly there. I hope the parent commenter can eventually see that.

    flamingarms,

    How would they even break up Steam? Separate their software and hardware development from the store? Can’t imagine that making any real impact on their practices.

    Socsa, do games w Court rules Gabe Newell must appear in person to testify in Steam anti-trust lawsuit

    Oh lawd he comin

    Clbull,

    Half Life 3 has been delayed by another three months.

    Wogi, do games w Court rules Gabe Newell must appear in person to testify in Steam anti-trust lawsuit

    I appreciate requiring everyone wearing a good mask while he’s in the courtroom, but I don’t understand how having him in the room to testify would be substantially different from an online appearance.

    ringwraithfish,

    Same energy as CEOs demanding workers return to the office

    PsychedSy,

    It’s probably a huge mistake for the plaintiffs. Imagine inviting in gaben so he can steal everyone’s hearts.

    Arbic,

    Also that he has to take off his mask while testifying. seriously wtf that shit is in the air in a closed room.

    uis, do games w Court rules Gabe Newell must appear in person to testify in Steam anti-trust lawsuit
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    Really? Steam? With all those EGS, GOG and Origins? Is it Apple’s trolling?

    douglasg14b, do games w Court rules Gabe Newell must appear in person to testify in Steam anti-trust lawsuit
    @douglasg14b@lemmy.world avatar

    ITT: A lot of corporate simping

    Warl0k3,

    ITT: a lot of people worried that one of the few examples of corporate-provided services that isn’t a flaming pile of anti-consumer profit-before-everything garbage is going to be punished for not being that via political ratfucking.

    TheAnonymouseJoker, do gaming w Embracer exec says laying off hundreds of people was an 'agonising process,' but that restructuring is 'how we win'

    The “we” in “how we win” is the board, CEOs and ultracapitalists. You peasants are not in the “we”.

    Carighan, do gaming w Embracer exec says laying off hundreds of people was an 'agonising process,' but that restructuring is 'how we win'
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    New idea:

    Whenever a company wants to drop X workers, the first Y people of that have to be the C-suites, and they cannot get a parachute. They leave just on the last pay they received regularly, no bonuses or anything.

    calcifer777,

    As much as 2000IQ that can sound, it would mean leaving any company in shambles after a layoff round

    Carighan,
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh course, and I’m half joking. But something has to be done about execs stuffing their own arse full with all the bank notes they get from mass layoffs, when that money could easily keep some of those workers employed.

    Dirk_Darkly,

    Oh no, the buffoons who mismanaged the company so badly that scores of people are laid off have to be fired! Now who will fuck things up while making off with tons of cash?

    Dreyns,

    Yes because we all know a company sake is more important than the lives of sometimes hundreds of people. You realize how awful you sound ?

    Feathercrown, do games w Court rules Gabe Newell must appear in person to testify in Steam anti-trust lawsuit

    Come on, not every guy with a beard is–

    “Hi this is Gaben”

    OOOOOOHHHH MA GAWD

    bfg9k,
    @bfg9k@lemmy.world avatar

    Thats: gayben@valvesoftware.com

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