My son got 2 Pokémon games and a dlc. Seems like there’s plenty of life left in the Switch 1 for now, so no need to update.
When we got the switch 1, it actually sat unused for most of the first year. After a while we started to really enjoy it though. Maybe we’ll get a switch 2 in a year.
and people who are pokemon fans, likely keep thier old consoles with the pokmeon games so they can play it again, and transfer older pokemon to the newer consoles too.
I like how this article does not talk about the anti consumer practices engaged in by Nintendo, that might push some customers away from their consoles.
The average consumer does not care about this. The biggest reasons for people to not buy a Switch 2 are 1) people don’t have money and 2) lack of major first-party games. I waited months until I found a MKW bundle for $450 at a black Friday sale.
Once we get the next 3D Mario or Zelda, you can bet they will sell a lot of consoles.
Since I’m one of the people who is on the fence about whether or not to pick up a Nintendo Switch 2 or to get myself an ROG Ally (I have $250 of gift cards for Target which don’t sell the Steam Deck) so that I can play steam games on a handheld. I heartily disagree.
And it’s Nintendo’s anti-consumer policies that is making me hesitate on the Switch 2.
It already comes with Linux installed, and an emulator can be setup with five button presses and thirty seconds of waiting.
The base system is setup as immutable, but /home isn’t, so aur isn’t available out of the box, but flatpacks are for example
SteamOS is an Arch Linux, basically, with some stuff pre-installed. The only big difference is that it’s installed in immutable mode, but even that is not a big deal
Not exactly, but overlap is significant. A bunch of people want Nintendo because they always did Nintendo and that’s all they know, a bunch of people know that switch is something that kids want and so they get one, sure. But a bunch of people want to play some games lying on a couch or riding a metro or sitting in a queue at a dentist, and those people will at least google what exists on the market. This is an overlapped audience, and for a lot of them steam deck will be the obviously better choice.
I got a Switch because of handheld gaming and then I stopped using my Switch because I got a Deck, and my library became playable on it without having to rebuy them. And I can get cheaper games, bundles, and giveaways than on Nintendo to play on my Deck or PC. And if ARM support for steam frame makes its way to Android then I’ll be able to play those same Steam games on my phone too.
I don't think that's had much of an impact when Nintendo sold more Switch 2s at launch than Valve has manufactured Steam Decks over its entire lifespan. The Steam Deck is still an enthusiast product for a niche crowd, and will likely never be in direct competition with the big three.
It’s a comparatively new product, but it’s not like it’s something unsuccessful. It’s attached to Steam, that everyone who ever had a computer knows about, and everyone has a couple of games there, it’s being talked about very positively everywhere, and they’re repeatedly gained positive reputation over pro-consumer practices they regularly employ, and they somehow evading being put on blast for the child gambling industry they operate.
They’re known among gamers, which is indeed niche crowd, but also a crowd that is important here. They don’t have the cultural grasp on humanity as Nintendo, or other two, but all of them shitting the bed constantly and publicly, while Valve is catching wins all over the place.
I mean, what is even there to play that you can’t play on Switch 1?
New Mario Kart? Donkey Kong whatever?
I’m sure they’re good games, I just don’t see someone who already owns a Switch buying a whole new system just for them
It's early and there aren't a lot of heavy hitters yet. But for me, Kirby Air Riders alone was well worth it, I waited 22 years for this sequel and it delivered.
(Ex) Nintendo fan here. I’ve owned every Nintendo console and handheld since the NES (even the Virtual Boy!) Right after the Switch 2 announcement in April I got a Steam Deck and never looked back, and I love the thing. The list of cons for the Switch 2 is immense - the price of the hardware, the price of the software, Nintendo’s extreme anti-consumer practices…in the past, Nintendo at least had cheap hardware going for it. No longer. The list of Switch 2 exclusive games, both released and announced, I’d even want to play is also minuscule. Mario Kart World (which doesn’t look even remotely worth $80) and Donkey Kong Bananza are it so far. I thought it would be difficult to not be able to play new Nintendo games, but they’ve made it extremely easy so far. I’m good with either never playing them or playing them emulated many years from now. It’s very clear that Nintendo has become just another soulless corporate game company.
I like my regular Switch (because it’s jailbroken and I haven’t ever paid Nintendo for any game on it) but I see no reason to ever get a Switch 2 when the Steam Deck exists.
They haven’t had a crossover hit yet. The Switch had at least 2. Breath of the Wild on Launch and Animal Crossing during COVID. Hoping Star Fox get’s a major Breath of the Wild type jump for the series and maybe a new IP. Metroid would be good to have a new sub-series that changes up the formula for 3D adventure. Hopefully a new IP too
Yeah it’s kind of a thing where the switch benefited from the failure of the Wii U while the Switch 2 is being hurt by the success of the Switch.
BOTW was available on the Wii U, but since so few people had one of those, it made sense to get a Switch to play it.
With the Switch 2 I feel like “Meh, I already have a Switch it doesn’t seem like it’s offering much more than what I already have”. Also it’s larger and when I want to use the Swtich hand held (mostly just when I’m on a plane) seems like that might be a pain in the ass. Also with the Switch 1 they eventually came out with a better OLED model, so I’ll just keep playing the Switch 1 until they come out with something a little more compact and maybe with a better screen or whatever. Stick drift has been an issue for me so also want something with more reliable sticks.
Seems like I might be asking a lot, but for the price they’re asking if I’m not getting what I want, then I’ll stick with the Switch 1. It’s fine.
$80 for Mario Kart? At that price, we’ve got Mario Kart at home.
In all seriousness, the Nintendo Wii was REVOLUTIONARY when it came out. It was gangbusters when it released. It was $249, which is about $400 in today’s money, but for a completely original and amazing new system. The Wii U wasn’t exactly as revolutionary. It was a controller with a screen that you couldn’t take with you. It was a flop.
The Switch was a modern equivalent of the Wii. It was new. It was different. It was a mobile gaming console.
The Switch 2 IS THE SWITCH. There is nothing new about it to the everyday consumer mom and dad. There are no cool new features. No cool new games. It doesn’t justify itself or the cost to the sticky fingered kid next door who is content with Minecraft on the original Switch. Nintendo did what an American company led by shareholders would do and continued to do more of the same and will likely blame the consumer.
Mario-Kart-at-home by the way: supertuxkart.net
Buy now for $0 and get Rocket-League-at-home for free on top!
(It’s one of the game modes in SuperTuxKart. 🙃)
But yeah, $80 is kind of wild, even just because it’s fundamentally still a cart game. You pretty much need a group to regularly play it with, otherwise you won’t get your money’s worth out of that.
I actually reinstalled it myself after writing that comment. 😅
I only really started to fully appreciate it, when I learned that drifting gives you a boost. So, if you’re going around curves, you pretty much always want to drift, which then kicks your speed up once you stop drifting. Maintaining a higher speed than your car normally goes, is vital for beating the harder difficulties.
I’m going to get one at some point, because my OG Switch’s battery swelled up so I got rid of it. It’s more about being able to play my existing games, than being in any way excited about spending £70 on new ones. 😔
I’ve been having a fantastic time with mine. Kirby Air Riders is an excellent sequel to one of my favorite childhood games. Cyberpunk went on an accidental super sale and I was able to get the complete edition for $17 USD. Fortnite doesn’t run like dogshit anymore. The console feels more sturdy and premium compared to Switch 1. An extra charging port on the top makes extended tabletop play possible now.
However I’ll always welcome headlines like this because the more Nintendo struggles, the better they get. Wii Sports was incredible and everyone had it. Switch 2 Welcome Tour should have never been a paid game and none of my S2 friends own it.
I’m a ps player mainly because I got the PS1 to replace my Saturn and haven’t had many bad experiences with Sony so far, but I’m definitely looking forward to the upcoming stream machines and will probably get a Steam Deck sometime soon.
I wonder if it’s because they had 10 million ready to go in June for launch so most people who wanted one got one then. Especially because it’ll never go down in price, why wait until the holidays unless you have kids?
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