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CosmicCleric, (edited ) do games w Gameplay mechanics were also a lot better with more replayability.
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A couple of points.

We didn’t need online access back then, we had LAN parties.

Most of the time you didn’t need updates, because back then they were much more diligent about making sure a game released without bugs. Yes a few existed, but much less than what you see in today’s games. A showstopper bug was death for sales, since it couldn’t be fixed inexpensively.

And those instruction books, especially if you are into the artistry that they put into them, is sorely missed, truly.

ricdeh,
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Hmmm, I don’t think that I can agree with the point about older games having fewer bugs. In my experience, 2000s 3D games are riddled with bugs to the point of becoming unplayable in many instances.

CosmicCleric,
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Yeah I always get pushed back on that, but honestly, I’ll “die on that hill”. Also, speaking of games not just in the 2000s, but even earlier.

Back then corporations had to sell cartridges and ship them, and if they shipped with any bugs, that was the death of the game.

At the end of the day, usually when I’m debating this topic with someone, they can only point to a few examples of bugs in cartridge games or in PC games back then, which was a very small ratio to all the ones that shipped correctly.

My point is basically the ratio of good games to buggy games was a lot better back in the day than it is today, because developers are time-pressed and semi-lazy, and they just figured they could fix bugs in post-production.

And funny enough, the pushback I usually get seems to be from astroturfers trying to hide that fact, of not doing as much due diligence before shipping, because it could just be fixed after the fact, regardless if the customer gets a worse product at first or not (not saying that of you, just generally).

Mikelius,

And you had to scour forums with dubious links to find official or unofficial patches.

TwilightVulpine,

There were some pretty bad bargain bin releases, and a lot of games had glitches but I can’t remember any game from a big company that released with a critical bug. I do think today companies are much more blasé about releasing games with serious issues and patching it later.

TwilightVulpine,

Couch multiplayer and LAN parties had a sort of friendly atmosphere that is sorely lacking from most online multiplayer today. Folks are all business, no fun. Even in casual modes people get mad if you fool around.

Duamerthrax,

I miss open server browsers. I had a few servers I would frequent for UT2k4. It was nice just bouncing in for a few rounds. People were there to win, but between teams being shuffled between games and no real ranking system, no one was really a tryhard.

rimjob_rainer, do games w Gameplay mechanics were also a lot better with more replayability.

They had soul

RandomVideos, do gaming w Classic Microsoft

Wouldnt it make more sense to add official mod support to bedrock than to java? Java already has unofficial modloaders and more people play on bedrock edition

Godric, do gaming w They're often much older if I'm emulating

Still playing Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines all these years later. Writing more than makes up for dated combat. Hoping the second one is decent.

Cryophilia,

Oh man that game is so good, they don’t make em like that anymore. Infinite replayability

HawlSera,

To be fair, as awesome as World of Darkness is… Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines is still the only good Video Game adaptation they’ve made (Why is it this hard!!!)

seriousconsideration, do games w Gameplay mechanics were also a lot better with more replayability.

I love my old school games and will never stop playing SNES, 64, PS1, and PS2, but there were plenty of crap games on those systems too. Just like how indies and Minecraft and Soulsbornes right now are dope as hell, but everyone complains about Ubisoft and EA so much you’d think that they were the only publishers in the 2020s. There’s been solid titles and shovelwware every single generation ever since the Atari 2600. Also, the games that a lot of us grew up playing that have gone down as “the best games of all time” like FF7 and Goldeneye would be considered borderline unplayable by kids today.

BRING BACK MANUALS.

darkpanda,

Give Tunic a try. The in-game manual is a central piece of its overall puzzle.

TwilightVulpine,

Tunic is great! The dev said he wanted to replicate the experience of playing a game in a different language that you don’t quite understand at first, and he made it perfectly. English is my second language, and it reminded me of the times trying to play games before I understood it, struggling with manuals and dictionaries.

The special edition comes with a physical manual, but ironically the player shouldn’t open it until they 100% the game. It’s like a spoiler.

uis,

If you want to read some manual you know where you can.

PersnickityPenguin,

Manuals?

Don’t you like logging into the same game 6 months later and the entire game mechanic and progression system have been changed???

Xanis,

Most people don’t know about, or don’t remember, the old bins filled to the brim with garbageware games. Back when shit was still the wild west and people were releasing crap left and right.

K0W4LSK1, do gaming w Classic Microsoft
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Honestly I don’t see the issue here java already supports mods and they didn’t fuck with it and just added a way to do it for suckers as well

Aasikki,

Agree. I just wish bedrock was a straight port from the java version instead of being borderline ruined, the only difference should have been better performance from not using java and it being rebuilt from ground up.

Comfortably_Wet, do games w Gameplay mechanics were also a lot better with more replayability.
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  • Got_Bent,

    Some games really needed manuals to play. That’s what text files were for.

    idunnololz, do gaming w They're often much older if I'm emulating
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    I’m still using a GTX 1070. When I was building a new PC 2 years ago I had to decide whether to splurge on a new GPU. I thought about all of the games I played in the last 5 years and realized none of them were GPU intensive (the most intensive was Minecraft with shaders and that one was bottlenecked by my CPU). To this date I don’t think I’ve ever played a game that my GPU couldn’t handle.

    The_Picard_Maneuver,
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    Me too! I also built around the same time and had to decide whether or not it was worth upgrading… Still going strong for 1080p. (I don’t have a 4k monitor anyway)

    idunnololz,
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    Ah. I’m using a 2.5k monitor. 1070 seems perfect for that resolution.

    ICastFist,
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    I’m also on a 1070, but mine’s been trucking along since 2019. I do occasionally play something GPU intensive, but I often avoid going full MAX GRAFFICS because the laptop gets really toasty, which causes visible screen tearing due to most of the hot air being blown straight onto the fucking screen. Great engineering, ASUS, gg.

    EchoCT,

    To be fair, the 10xx series are goddamn workhorses.

    Psythik,

    The 1070 was an amazing card for it’s time but DLSS 3 is a game changer, especially if you game at 4K. But for 1080p and below the 1070 can hold its own. I used one up until last year.

    wonderfulvoltaire,
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    The annoying thing is when games are broken due to drivers not being updated by the company

    Droechai,

    Missing dll-files are rough too

    shimdidly, do gaming w Classic Microsoft

    This meme format is awesome. kekw

    vox, do gaming w Classic Microsoft
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    they srill advertise java for modding even though there’s no “official” support tho

    ImADifferentBird, do games w Gameplay mechanics were also a lot better with more replayability.
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    Game updates bring bad with the good, because devs often rely on them to deliver a full, playable game.

    When you bought a game back in the day, you got a full, playable game on the media. It wasn’t always bug-free, because… you know… it’s software, but they had to at least quash all the showstoppers without the benefit of a Day 1 patch.

    And don’t get me started about DRM…

    CileTheSane,
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    When you bought a game back in the day, you got a full, playable game on the media

    ET would like a word…

    ImADifferentBird,
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    Fair, but ET was such an awful debacle that it killed Atari as a company and paved the way for Japanese companies to take over the entire market for the next couple of decades.

    Now it’s just business as usual.

    Chailles,
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    They were also much simpler and smaller back then with often extremely limited specification variations. And DRM existed back then too, with some fairly egregious and infamous physical DRM checks.

    Floshie, do games w Gameplay mechanics were also a lot better with more replayability.

    There’s an analogy with the music industry too. Music recording before was for the “elite” who were sure that their music would hit. Nowadays, the music recording broadens to the public, ergo more less quality focused music is released.

    The same goes with video games

    Blaster_M, do gaming w Classic Microsoft

    Insert quip about minetest

    Reminder that minetest (even with Mineclone 2) feels like “we have Minecraft at home” on a good day

    stoicmaverick, do games w My wacky game made it to 4000 wishlists, have a meme as a thank you :)

    An ancient pre-cardboard version of dick-in-a-box.

    HawlSera, do gaming w They're often much older if I'm emulating

    Do a fucking Simpsons Hit and Run remake and I might buy that…

    Can they even remake that given that Apu is a major character in it and liking him is “Wrong Think” now?

    CaptKoala,

    Apu is the second best part of the entirety of The Simpsons: Hit & Run, second only to Homer in his undies.

    I said what I said.

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