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Stormageddon47, do gaming w What game are you playing little man?
@Stormageddon47@lemmy.world avatar

My favourite thing they do is scream YOU’RE SHIT! right after you’ve just handed their ass to them.

Stamets,
@Stamets@lemmy.world avatar

I did this to someone once. They messaged me after I lost saying I was awful and shit and whatever so I just responded with “Lol but I won”. Took him completely off guard. “No. I won. Were you not paying attention?” I just kept saying I won and he got more and more angry until he the messages were just all caps rage.

Some people are too easy.

TrousersMcPants, do gaming w What game are you playing little man?

What if they only say “GGEZ” when they lose

Mago, do gaming w God I feel so bad for y'all

Last couple times i played with a woman no one was disrespectful which surpriced me greatly.

Tbf the Squad community is pretty cool.

_sideffect, do gaming w Oh trust me. I know your frustration better than you do.

I don’t give a shit who or what I play as, as long as they’re bad-ass

emptyother,
@emptyother@programming.dev avatar

Idk, I don’t feel like I can relate to some bad-ass. /s

Honytawk,

Then just relate to the ass-bad characters

yamanii, do gaming w Oh trust me. I know your frustration better than you do.
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

On the realm of porn games at least, gay men are well served (provided you are also a furry).

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Or like the bara body type if you’re not a furry

Jeom,
@Jeom@lemmy.world avatar

further proves that all programmers are gay furries

AeroSmack, do gaming w Oh trust me. I know your frustration better than you do.

Obligatory mention of New Vegas making sexuality a set of perks, just like in real life.

emptyother,
@emptyother@programming.dev avatar

But you can only choose one. That isn’t very realistic. 😄

AeroSmack,

You haven’t played New Vegas, have you? You can pick both. Bisexuals do +10% damage to men and women, just like in real life.

emptyother,
@emptyother@programming.dev avatar

I’m pretty sure it was only one in at least one of the Fallouts. But yeah, you are right, in NV one can choose both.

andros_rex,

FO3 only had perks for heterosexuals. Which means it’s optimal to play as a women, since most enemies are men.

ARk,

J-Just like in real life??

AeroSmack,

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

And possibly horny.

Resol, do gaming w Oh trust me. I know your frustration better than you do.
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not trans at all, but sometimes I choose to play as a girl just to make real men mad, such as in laser tag (that’s a very obscure TheOdd1sOut reference). The fact that I can’t do that in Pokémon Red, Green (the Japan exclusive one), Blue, Yellow, Gold or Silver is kinda silly.

Jarix,

I usually choose to play as the girl because devs typically make girl characters have much better customization options or just character designs. Not always but has been a trend i noticed a long time ago.

Like choosing outfits or hairstyles.

Theres usually a lot more options to choose from and also your choices usually are more noticeable when you use your character in game.

Im happy that devs seem to like to give lots of beard styles now so that helps me find more options that i like for male characters

Jarix,

I wish all the options were just available to whatever body type you choose instead of being restricted.

Also, forgot to say theres almost never make up choices for male characters. By choosing the female character/bodytype, especially in less fancy games, the way a characters face looks is usually a lot easier to finesse if you dont like the default options you get. And im refering to just basic bone structure/sallowness of face.

A lot of preset male charactures just look lifeless or hungover

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Agreed.

Also, not enough downvotes.

CrayonRosary,

Keep your autogynephiliac Pokémon fantasies to yourself.

AI_toothbrush, do gaming w I'm the fifth one. The One Who Stares.

I play rythm games and rpgs so i just sigh and continue grinding…

MindSkipperBro12, do gaming w Oh trust me. I know your frustration better than you do.

Sounds like a pity contest.

HipHoboHarold,

Its more so none of us complain that we play straight characters. Because it’s not a big deal. We get straight people exist. We don’t hate straight characters. So if we can do it and be perfectly fine and not feel like it’s being shoved down our throats, then why can’t straight people play gay characters? Yall get the vast majority. Just play this one with a gay character.

Or don’t. Theres thousands of games that come our every year. So much that I could make a list of games that have come out in the last 2-3 years I was excited for, never got around to, and will probably never play, because as an adult I just don’t have the time to play all the games I want to.

We have so many, that if yall stopped focusing on the one few with gay characters, you can find plenty of others to enjoy. Why bitch and moan once we get a game with gay characters?

Half the time it’s not even main characters. I remember seeing YouTubets throwing a fit because one side mission has you help a male high-school student ask another boy out to prom. Completely optional. Easily skip able. You do the mission, and them move on. And that was too much. It’s not even when we have a main character. It’s when we exist.

Boulders Gate 3. The option for a queer character is there. The option is too much.

Jarix,

Boulders Gate 3. The option for a queer character is there. The option is too much.

Could you elaborate? I only ask because i havent installed the game yet and dont understand what you mean and would like to know how it will affect game play. What does too much mean here?

Much appreciation if you do answer but thanks anyway for saying something if you dont want to.

HipHoboHarold,

No problem. Basically I also saw posts about how BG3 was also “woke”, not just because you can play as a woman, but also because you can romance anyone(or at least the main NPCs). So you can be straight, gay, lesbian, or even romance multiple people and be bi. It’s all an option and you’re not forced to romance anyone if you don’t want to. But just the option being there was enough to get people to throw a fit. Even though having plenty of options is kind of the point of the game.

aaaa,

This game takes it a step further during character customization than most do. You get to choose body type (as in feminine vs masculine, though they don’t call it that), voice, genitals, and gender (pronouns). And none of these things are tied to any of the others. They can all be mixed and matched however you see fit.

The only way these affect gameplay is just how people refer to your character in dialogue, and what your character model looks like in the cut scenes.

someguy7734206, do gaming w Oh trust me. I know your frustration better than you do.

In a large portion of games I’ve played, there is no mention of the main character’s sexuality at all.

frunch,

But think about how much differently you’d play the game if you had that info readily available!

emptyother, do gaming w Oh trust me. I know your frustration better than you do.
@emptyother@programming.dev avatar

The generic white muscled male, who can do anything the plot throws at him (with only a bit of fake struggle), and gets the girl at the end, is so damn overdone in every media. People talk about characters being Mary Sue when John Sue is way more common.

I want variations in my fiction! All kinds of genders, preferences, cultures, opinions, and species. The only rule I have is for the fiction never to encourage cruel acts IRL.

JackGreenEarth,
@JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee avatar

Avatar TLA is pretty good at diversity

VaultBoyNewVegas,

I’d say the avatar series in general is good at having diverse characters who are complex. I know Korra gets a lot of shit but I personally really liked that they tried to have an avatar actually suffering from mental illness.

emptyother,
@emptyother@programming.dev avatar

That was a coincidence, I’ve just started watching it! Season 2 now. Love it so far. But Sokka don’t deserve being such a buttmonkey, considering how often he is right.

MyFairJulia,
@MyFairJulia@lemmy.world avatar

Have you heard the good news of our lord and savior She-Ra (2018, Dreamworks and Netflix)? Or Daria (1997, MTV)?

Assman, do gaming w Only $1000? Pfft
@Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

I mean the PC probably met their deductible in two days

Mr_Blott,

I’m sorry nobody knows what you’re talking about

pearsaltchocolatebar,

PC stands for ‘Player Character’.

Hope that clears up any confusion.

Mr_Blott,

Pls explain deductible and not having a human right

Player2,

In the US there exists a system where you have to pay for healthcare up to a certain value, beyond which insurance covers the costs. It’s common to have this deductible reset every year.

GregoryTheGreat,

$18,000 USD in the policies I was checking out yesterday.

pearsaltchocolatebar,

Were you looking at Cobra? I’ve never seen one that high.

GregoryTheGreat,

No the market place.

lars,

beyond which insurance covers

most of!

the costs

Like what the fuck is wrong with the US and why are we so certain that stuff that works in the rest of the world is a fantasy (guaranteed maternity leave; the metric system; debt-free medical care)?

Awful.

Allero, do gaming w Oh trust me. I know your frustration better than you do.

The industry has long invented a near-perfect solution:

MAKE IT TWO LESBIAN GIRLS

  • They are gay
  • They are loved by straights
  • Straight girls who see it invariably turn bi
  • Yay!

The only side still uncovered is gay men, that’s all.

NegativeInf,

Yea… fuck me I guess?

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

They did try to bring fear effect back, but they still pale compared to the originals.

MammyWhammy, do gaming w Oh trust me. I know your frustration better than you do.

I don’t understand people who complain about things like this.

Just don’t play it. Easy as that. No conversation needed. Go play something else. There’s only an infinite number of other options that you can spend your time on.

onlinepersona,

Imagine being forced to game. What a world that would be.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

Mamertine,

Representation matters.

The more it’s shown, the more it becomes socially acceptable.

GBU_28,

Totally fine.

The person you replied to didn’t disagree though. If someone doesn’t want to consume something, no problem. Ideally they just shut up about it.

Aceticon, (edited )

I’ve been thinking a lot about this of late, mainly around TV series and movies.

(As a side note my own morality on all of this is comes from having lived my early adult years in The Netherlands: for me all sexual orientations are normal things, same as eye colors, height and so on, so there is no “right” or “wrong” sexual orientation, just like there is no “right” or “wrong” eye color, and sexual orientation is not even important outside a sexuality context)

I agree with you on that: show it as normal and people will start seeing it as normal rather than give some disproportionate importance to what is just another human characteristic that varies from person to person, which IMHO the best way for everybody to treat people equally independently of sexuality - only a nutter would treat somebody differently because of, say, eye color, and as I see it in the ideal world it would be just the same for sexual orientation.

That said, forcing displays of sexuality or sexual orientation isn’t the way to go, IMHO, because it keeps the whole thing in this special pedestal and goes against normalization of it because it does not treat it as normal.

Unfortunatelly a lot of TV series and Movies of recent have forced displays of non-majority sexual orientation rather than just having it as just as normal as all else - say, some otherwise asexual character is made to explicitly be gay or some other non-majority sexual orientation for no actual story-related reason - although there are a few that just portray it as “just another bunch of people” (say, one of the couples in the neighbourhood happen to be gay, and they’re living life like everybody else or somebody just happens to be attracted to somebody else of the same gender and it makes sense to show it as part of the story) which is how it is in real life, at least in civilized countries.

It all feels like the makers are preaching to us through this medium rather than the whole thing just being a representation of “normal life” (in the story setting) with all the range of normal characteristics that humans have (which naturally includes a range of sexual orientations).

(Mind you, I also think unecessary emphasis on the sexuality of straight characters is ridiculous: beyond what is relevant for the story in terms of how it affects how characters relate, I don’t see why straight people’s sexuality has to be highlighted).

I think we should strive to display the variety of the human condition without actually putting things like sexual orientation in a pedestal and treat it all as special (hence, by implication, not normal). It’s not easy though, especially in countries like US where morality has been picked up by Politics and thinks which are absolutelly normal human characteristics have been fetishised beyond all logice and turned into battlefields.

All that said, in story-driven games and other media, were there is emphasys in human relations, you’ll almost always end up with sexuality involved, if only because sexual attraction is a frequent drive for the how people relate and act around each other so it’s a bit harder to have a normal range of human behaviour there without seeming to be forcing anything.

HeyJoe, do gaming w Oh trust me. I know your frustration better than you do.

Not that I don’t deny it, but are these things people think/care about? It’s a video game, I can be anything depending on the game I am playing. I don’t get mad or wonder why I have to play as a woman in some, hell I was perfectly fine playing last of us 2 which was a woman and gay. I can be a spirit or an alien and that’s why games are so great.

iAmTheTot,
@iAmTheTot@kbin.social avatar

There are definitely people who think about this. I bet this guy would. For context, this poor man can't get immersed into Starfield because it asks him for his character's pronouns. =(

snooggums,
@snooggums@kbin.social avatar

Picking pronouns is like picking height/weight/any other customization, just how you want to be seen or what text to put in the lines NPCs say to your character.

What an idiot.

Aceticon,

I lived in the UK and that guy really comes out as a complete wanker, in so many ways.

It’s an option for fks sake, it gives possibilities without forcing any choice or taking anything away.

fidodo,

Wait, so does he want the game to force all players to be non binary? I’m not watching that video and giving him views.

Moghul,

The video is of a grown man losing his mind over an option that is not mandatory to set. It’s there, but it doesn’t pop up and you are not required to choose anything.

faercol,
@faercol@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

That reminds me of people saying that The Sims 4 has “gone woke” when introducing romantic preferences a few years ago.

That was completely stupid on so many aspects (including the fact that this meant that Sims used to be pan, so they were complaining about the possibility to make a straight character?)

VaultBoyNewVegas,

The sims also used to be bugged so that it was more common for sims to get with sims of the same sex. If anything the preference actually made straight couples more common.

starman2112, (edited )
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I spent 50 hours in starfield and honestly I don’t even remember the gender selector. I’m pretty sure it’s just a little toggle in the character creator that switches from fella to lady to neither, which… Isn’t that exactly the immersion this little guy wants? People referring to him as a him instead of a them? It’s not exactly staring you in the face throughout the entire game. Makes me sad to think this rant probably got famous because this kid has people who value his opinion.

Transporter_Room_3,
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

I grew up with plenty, I still know a few through mutual friends. Every opportunity to complain about how “woke” games are these days is taken. If an lgbtq+ character is in any way involved, they immediately change any reviews to 1 star, start massively shittalking the game, and continue to play it while bitching to everyone and anyone about it the whole time, and for weeks after they finish.

In games that let me choose, I play a woman most of the time. Been mocked for it. Cool Bro, you play your way I play mine. Only I don’t spend my time thinking of ways to try and make you feel bad for it.

When you can play as a mining ship captain in the year 3300 , a green plumber turned Ghost-buster in a world with kidnapping turtles , and a dinosaur all on the same day, like you said, who gives a fuck

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