kbin.social

jwr1, do kbinDevlog w RTR#35 User profile enhancements: sorting options, new date range filter, reputation points fix
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Additionally, I plan to launch an API on a secondary instance to avoid disrupting work on applications.

Sounds great! I was literally just wondering about that.

jwr1, (edited ) do kbinDevlog w RTR#35 User profile enhancements: sorting options, new date range filter, reputation points fix
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Also, I'm not sure if this is intentional or not, but I've noticed posts don't seem to show up in feeds until they have at least one favorite. This post, for instance, wasn't in https://kbin.social/c/kbin initially, but once I upvoted it, it showed up. Maybe it doesn't qualify as "hot" if it has zero votes.

Teppic,
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I think it is down to not qualifying as hot. If you sort by new after posting you'll likely be able to see them.

livus, do kbinDevlog w RTR#35 User profile enhancements: sorting options, new date range filter, reputation points fix
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@ernest this is amazing.

But I worry that you don't get enough time off on the weekends! Please do take some time for yourself as well.

testing, do kbinDevlog w RTR#32 Further refactoring, debugging voting errors
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@ernest
RTR#32 Voting Bug Report:

  • upvoting any post in the microblogging section of the random magazine does not work
DessertStorms, (edited ) do kbinDevlog w RTR#35 User profile enhancements: sorting options, new date range filter, reputation points fix
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I'm really liking the "new comments" feature, would it be possible to make it visible from profile overview as well as on the main feed? No big deal if not 👍

E: blimey, that was quick! Thanks!

ernest,
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DessertStorms, (edited )
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No, more like this

Screen is from main feed, but I had just seen it happen in my overview page (my profile), hence my edit to my earlier comment, but it happened on a post I made, and isn't on others, so that might have already existed?

ThatOneKirbyMain2568,
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Wait, there's a feed for all comments on kbin.social? That's interesting.

Jonny, do kbinDevlog w /kbin RTR#5 Transfer request for ownership of abandoned magazines
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Just wondering, does anyone know how long it usually is for ownership change to be approved? I applied for one a few days ago, and just wondered how long it might take. Thanks in advance!

ernest,
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Done!

Jonny,
@Jonny@kbin.social avatar

oh thank you! I hadn't meant to badger you, but thank you again!

ernest, do kbinDevlog w RTR#37 Fixing bugs and further optimization work, continued
@ernest@kbin.social avatar

The instance has been successfully updated. It should be a bit better in this regard. Changes to the user profile are also now visible.

dekkzz76,
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@ernest

any new moderation tools?

dekkzz76,
@dekkzz76@emacs.ch avatar

@ernest

total silence, to be expected features trump user safety

ernest,
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Sorry, due to recent work, I missed a few notifications. Moderation tools have been consistently expanded over the past month. I have one more specific thing on the to-do list, and I just need to create a team of global moderators. This is my goal for the coming month. Further work on the ActivityPub module will also primarily involve improving communication between instances related to moderation.

ThatOneKirbyMain2568,
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Nice to see sort options on the user profile! It's great to see all the progress that Kbin is making.

jwr1, do kbinDevlog w RTR#38 User profile, tag and search page filters, API deployment progress
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Hey @ernest, not sure if you saw my question here (https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/p/3482999) or not, but I was wondering what the recommended way to authenticate a user with the kbin API that allows federated use. From what I understand, the way it's currently set up is that developers have to register an oauth client with a kbin server in order to authenticate users from an external client. Does that mean every kbin server we want an external client to connect to has to register with oauth?

ernest,
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Oh, I must have missed your question, sorry. I'll answer it when I get back home.

ThatOneKirbyMain2568, do kbinMeta w I'm starting to see some serious downsides to being able to see who downvotes you.
@ThatOneKirbyMain2568@kbin.social avatar

While that's definitely a notable downside, I think the upsides outweigh it.

For one, being able to see upvotes & downvotes seems to have made a lot of people a bit more thoughtful with handing them out. This obviously isn't the case for everyone — there's still a good bit of downvoting people for disagreeing with the hivemind — but I and others have observed that downvote quality is a lot better here on kbin.social, and I think that vote visibility is a big part of that.

It's also just transparency on kbin.social's part. If votes federate, anyone can set up an instance to view your votes or just go to one that shows them. Someone could literally make a website listing downvotes throughout the fediverse, and there's nothing stopping them. Kbin.social is being transparent about the fact that votes on the fediverse can be accessed by the public, and I have no issue with that.

EDITː Removed a stray asterisk

livus,
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@ThatOneKirbyMain2568

Kbin.social is being transparent about the fact that votes* on the fediverse can be accessed by the public

This is important. The kind of petty, persevering trolls that @billothekid2 is worried about are exactly the kind of people who'd be likely to look up who downvoted them.

Kbin just makes it clear to us that this info is out there. Anonymous voting isn't possible in federated social media.

kubica, do kbinDevlog w RTR#38 User profile, tag and search page filters, API deployment progress
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Something is looking weird with the "top" tab, It only offers to filter until 12 hours.
And I can't access the section "All Content".

kubica,
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Not sure if something was done to fix the "top" filtering. But now I'm seeing the other options again.

GeekFTW,
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I still see just 3h/6h/12h.

nicetriangle, do kbinDevlog w RTR#39 Further development of the ActivityPub module
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Exciting stuff!

NumbersCanBeFun, do kbinDevlog w RTR#39 Further development of the ActivityPub module
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  • ernest,
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    Sure thing, I've noted that some accounts are stuck in the queue for deletion. This typically applies to older accounts. I'm currently working on it, and everything should be functioning properly soon. Your request is in the queue. Sorry for that.

    daredevil, do kbinDevlog w RTR#40 Further planning of the ActivityPub module, something is happening regarding mobile apps

    Happy to hear you're getting some time in for yourself. The constant updates have been a joy, but downtime is important too.

    ThatOneKirbyMain2568, do kbinMeta w Blocking and Downvote Stalking
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    Bad idea imo.

    Blocking someone means, "I want nothing to do with this person," so it makes sense that you'll be unable to see what they do. This should include direct messages, threads, comments, etc. @PugJesus's idea of a setting to hide votes from blocked users is a great idea, as you should be able to fully ignore someone you've blocked.

    It also makes sense that someone you've blocked wouldn't be able to do any 1-on-1 interaction with you. If you've blocked somebody because they're spamming or harassing you, it wouldn't be great for them to be able to DM you.

    However, preventing them from voting on your posts is something different entirely, as votes don't just concern the creator of the post and the person doing the voting; they also concern everyone who sees the post. Upvoting a comment is a message not just to the creator but also to everyone else that you like that comment, and the same goes for downvoting. Blocking voting is much more farther reaching than blocking DMs, and with votes being visible on the fediverse, it's a great way for trolls to hide people's views on their posts.


    EDIT: Typo

    wagesj45,
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    But if a troll blocks everyone that down votes them, eventually no one will be left to see their stuff. It is a self solving problem. On the other hand, a troll that you block can interfere with your stuff being shown to others depending on the sorting algorithm.

    melroy, do kbinMeta w Prototype for new Kbin app: Interstellar
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    We welcome these projects very much! Thank you so much for your time and effort! Such an app is much requested.

    Ps. My advise is to check the nodeinfo (example) and validate the software name, so you can easily switch between mbin/kbin if required in the future.

    jwr1,
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    Thanks, that's helpful.

    melroy,
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    You're welcome. I'm part of the Mbin community (in fact the 'M' stands for Melroy). If you need more help or having issues, feel free to contact me when you need!! I'm also on Matrix.

    TheArstaInventor,
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    Melroy, if you don't mind me asking, why did you go away from Kbin to start your own? I see nothing wrong with Kbin, ernest seems to be a great hardworking guy, I feel like we are just spreading the already small community too thin, Kbin is already small compared to Lemmy and now only the development has started picking up it's pace back again, another spinoff of Kbin makes no sense to me personally.

    I wish you just contributed directly to Kbin man.

    melroy,
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    I contributed a lot kbin directly in the past. It has a long history and story. Long story short: Ernest was offline for months without process, and contributors weren't allowed to merge other PRs, except their own. The way of working within the kbin project means that only Ernest will have the last say and every review goes via him. Development halted when he was gone (yes he is now back). Multiple contributors had the same feeling, hence the reason for a fork. Mbin is community focused, it's not driver my a single owner. All contributors have all rights. We work closer together and review each other code. I speak for myself, but I feel that this change of approach empowered all contributors in Mbin and more sense of responsibility. After all the drama at Kbin, Ernest didn't change either. So I'm glad a fork was created. I wish it wasn't needed.

    TheArstaInventor,
    @TheArstaInventor@kbin.social avatar

    Did you guys talk about this to Ernest? What did he have to say about this?

    ernest,
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    I feel that our visions for the project's development are too different for this to succeed. At this stage, it will definitely be better to work on our own things, /kbin is open source, so there is no issue with that. There are several reasons for this link, link

    TheArstaInventor,
    @TheArstaInventor@kbin.social avatar

    Thank you for the reply.

    From my point of view, you were offline because you had personal issues to deal with, and you dealt with that first, and simply resumed the development after that, and I also see no issues with Ernest being the owner because he is the owner and the founder despite the project being open source and sure, contributions had to go through him but that's fine as long as Kbin itself isn't dead, if it was, then asking him to remove that process would be more reasonable to let the rest of the community try to revive the project, but Kbin wasn't dying or so, it was merely paused for a short period of time.

    I personally won't be hopping in-between projects like a kangaroo, I am invested and am already on Kbin so far, its good to have alternatives generally, but in this case, I personally see no reason to go for Mbin. I also encourage and hope potential future contributors focus on a set of projects and not spread themselves too thin.

    We all have a life outside the internet, so pauses or breaks here and there is natural, this is less visible in big tech companies, more visible in small startups/projects in early stages which was really the case with Kbin, so we should be patient, I will be atleast :)

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