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awesomesauce309, do games w Splitgate 2 Will ‘Go Back to Beta’ to Undergo a Massive Rework Amid More Layoffs and Splitgate 1 Shutdown

When splitgate 1 launched its problem was a lack of polish. They polished it up and made an incredible live service game with terrible cosmetics. Then they gave up on all of that to make call of duty but sometimes there are walls to portal through. Now they are giving up on that and taking it all down. They need to hire an art director to rework it from the ground up and have splitgate 2 be splitgate 1 v2.0

Console_Modder, do games w IGN interview w/ DK Bananza devs
@Console_Modder@sh.itjust.works avatar

They really did not need to make DK do an ahegao face in the thumbnail and yet, here we are

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

DK loves the bananas!

Walican132,

Lmfao thanks for describing it like that I hate it.

overload,

That’s a new word to me, but yeah of course there’s a name for that.

Stovetop,

Oh, banana!

emb, (edited ) do games w IGN interview w/ DK Bananza devs

A couple interesting bits:

  • Koizumi is the one who suggested this team do a DK game
  • They decline to specify information about DK’s age, why Pauline is 13
  • DKB started out on Switch 1
  • Part of the inspiration for the gameplay was one dev just doing technical experiments with voxels
simple,
@simple@piefed.social avatar

DK's age, why Pauline is 13

Why are people so obsessed with connecting this game to some weird timeline

prole,

There are people who play Nintendo games for plot? Lol

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s never made sense.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fictionalcrossover/images/5/54/DKCHeroes2.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20111108103547

Why is Mario still young when Cranky Kong, the original Donkey Kong, is old?

victorz,

It’s make-believe—it doesn’t need to make sense.

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

Many make-believe things do need to make sense to actually be enjoyable. Not Donkey Kong games, though.

FooBarrington,

WAIT CRANKY IS DONKEY?

My whole world has just been shattered

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar
Walican132,

Rare games aren’t Nintendo Cannon? (Idk just finding something new to argue about on the internet)

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

Nintendo isn’t consistent in their own games, so it doesn’t matter either way. Mario and Luigi race with baby versions of themselves!

Walican132,

Ah so the better theory then is eventually at some point time travel is invented in the Mario universe and is used in wildly inappropriate manners.

“Bet I can beat infant you in a race” “You’re on!”

samus12345,
@samus12345@sh.itjust.works avatar

I guess Partners in Time would be when the time travel was discovered! Conveniently explains child Pauline as well, I suppose. Well, the “how,” but not the “why.”

Walican132,

Yeah we are never going to know why. Also why no shoes. Have they never been on the internet.

FooBarrington,

It’s simple market analysis.

Elden Ring has women with bare feet and is very successful.

Expedition 33 has woman with bare feet and is very successful.

Walican132,

Street fighter 6 and Juri support this as well.

Fucking gooners.

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

It’s interesting that both this and Mario Kart: World originally started as Switch 1 games, and only later they decided to move to Switch 2.

CluckN,

I remember when they did that with Breath of the Wild. Link literally has a WiiU gamepad that you can’t use on the WiiU. You can only use it as a main monitor.

Megaman_EXE, do gaming w The Elder Scrolls Online Dev's Unannounced MMO Was Doing Well and Even Scaling Up as Xbox Cancelation Blindsided Staff

If I had to take a wild guess, it’s higher-ups sacking employees to get a quick payday.

Microsoft keeps buying up dev teams, promising games, and then prevents games from releasing. I have been questioning their desire to make future consoles, to be honest. It seems like they’re trying to focus on gamepass and maneuvering out of the console market. Especially with their new handheld being made by a different company.

sculd, do gaming w The Elder Scrolls Online Dev's Unannounced MMO Was Doing Well and Even Scaling Up as Xbox Cancelation Blindsided Staff

For more context, Bloomberg also reported on this:

Xbox Executives Were Blown Away by an Upcoming Game. Then They Canceled It.

bloomberg.com/…/microsoft-s-xbox-cancels-blackbir…

No paywall version: archive.ph/daYYd

But Blackbird’s cancellation was particularly shocking because it had blown away executives at Xbox just a few months ago. During the demonstration in March, Spencer was enjoying the game so much that Matt Booty, the head of Xbox Game Studios, had to pull the controller away so they could keep the meeting going, according to two people who were in the room.

This is a game that even Spencer was enjoying and then they just cancelled it. I have no word.

Manapany,

I will play the devil advocate here, but a mmo in this economy ? Very little chance to succeed event if it’s good. I’m not saying canceling it was a good call, we will never know. But I can understand that being blow away is maybe not even enough for a live service to be good.

Nighed,
@Nighed@feddit.uk avatar

We don’t even know it’s business model, they all want live service games right?

Feels strange, especially for a dev that has actually made a modern and (apparently) profitable MMO.

Midnitte,

I mean, WoW still chugging along - it makes so much money from cosmetics they could probably ditch the subscription fee…

Manapany,

Yeah and good job trying to compete with that !

Midnitte,

Well Microsoft owns Blizzard, so I guess they don’t really need to compete

Manapany,

Of course they compete even if they are the same company. For a game to be profitable it need to attract consumers if you take it from another of your product that not good. Even more reason to shut it down imo. Why bother create a new IP a new community and risking to loose big, when you can put resources on your other product that already have that.

sculd,

The MMO market is still big, just not as big as its used to. A MMO by a successful team has a much better chance than most games.

Sophocles, do gaming w The Elder Scrolls Online Dev's Unannounced MMO Was Doing Well and Even Scaling Up as Xbox Cancelation Blindsided Staff

Microsoft is quickly becoming the worst company in gaming, which is saying something when you have the likes of Nintendo and EA. They bought up a bunch of quality companies making good games just to fire everyone and shut them down so their crappy flagship titles have no competition. Companies want to kill and destroy all games old, new, and even hypothetical so that their glorified slot machines get the spotlight. This is the beginning of the end for mainstream gaming. (Indie gaming is going strong though).

megopie, do gaming w The Elder Scrolls Online Dev's Unannounced MMO Was Doing Well and Even Scaling Up as Xbox Cancelation Blindsided Staff

MORE SOULS ON THE ALTER OF THE AI GOD, you know, just a few more and it shall burst forth from the machine and solve all our problems.

Just keeeeeeep pouring resources and capital on to the fire, any day now. Don’t worry about the climate or housing prices, the inevitable AI god will solve all that, surely. All the ruined lives and destroyed careers will be worth it, promise.

ter_maxima, do games w 'Xbox Hardware Is Dead,' Says Founding Team Member, 'It Looks Like Xbox Has No Desire — Or Literally Can't — Ship Hardware Anymore' - IGN

While this is bad for the market, it’s also entirely expected.

Xbox have been producing sub-par hardware with names no one can remember and barely any exclusives, it was only a matter of time.

To other Europeans : do you know anyone who owns an Xbox ? I’ve only ever had one single friend in middle school who had a 360. I’ve never seen any other model outside of an electronics store.

Their current gen is hamstrung by the existence of the Series S, and the utter lack of features in their controllers (no gyroscope or any motion sensors ? No advanced rumble ? No touchpad ?). No one who is serious about controller gaming buys an Xbox controller, especially because of the lack of gyro.

Their dedication to digital-only and pushing the games pass also alienates anyone who wishes to play physical games and/or offline.

Croquette,

I think that xbox controller are the best controllers for PC, so I don’t need all the advanced features, but otherwise, you are right.

Their market is now clearly gamepass + Windows. Microsoft is banking on their market share to sell gamepass and capture the market.

Natanael,

OTOH I only have a PS5 because of Sony’s marketing budget, lol (non-slim version included with a Sony phone on contract, so technically also a way for them to clear stock, lmao)

But yeah, I don’t know any people with a recent Xbox here in Sweden. In the original Xbox era and the 360 era I think they had a big lead here, but after that I’ve seen much more Sony represented.

smeg,

In the uk I remember the 360 being huge and nobody having a ps3, but now I’m not sure I know a single person who bought an xb1 or whatever the current one is called.

echodot,

360 was a big hit because everyone wanted to play halo. Honestly outside of that I don’t think there was any other exclusives. At least none that I can remember

smeg,

It also launched a year or two before the ps3 and I feel like it was significantly cheaper. Xbox Live also seemed to be huge despite the cost, probably some network effect in action. I remember Gears of War being another big name they had.

trigonated,

To other Europeans : do you know anyone who owns an Xbox ? I’ve only ever had one single friend in middle school who had a 360. I’ve never seen any other model outside of an electronics store.

Barely, lol. Knew 1 person who had an og Xbox and 1 who had a 360. Newer than that, nope.

SlartyBartFast,

I have a 360, which is the xbox 2

a_wild_mimic_appears,

i have it too, and i used it a lot, but most people i knew at that time went for Sony

Krompus,
@Krompus@lemmy.world avatar

X360 launched a full year before PS3, seemed great compared to the ancient PS2. Had a rough start with the red ring of death, but it recovered and did very well. X360 sales were higher for most of the generation but PS3 eventually beat them by a small margin for the final count.

SlartyBartFast,

I think I need to JTAG mine, I have an optical disc drive emulator but I would like some home brews too

Krompus,
@Krompus@lemmy.world avatar

I bought an Xbox Series controller and I was shocked by how shitty it is, especially compared to the wired 360 controller I had for years. Bought a DualSense and it’s so much better in every way.

BigBananaDealer,

this is surprising to me i think the series controller is the best controller ever made. well i have a starfield one its slightly smaller and has a fun texture on the back

Krompus,
@Krompus@lemmy.world avatar

Overpriced, battery not included, haptics suck compared to DualSense, face buttons get stuck sometimes (it’s clean), the cheap rubber coating started wearing and peeling after the first month of light use, triggers are squeaky and too stiff, drops bluetooth connection randomly, you need a stupid overpriced dongle for lower latency, and I just prefer the symmetrical PlayStation layout, never understood the offset sticks.

kandoh, do games w 'Xbox Hardware Is Dead,' Says Founding Team Member, 'It Looks Like Xbox Has No Desire — Or Literally Can't — Ship Hardware Anymore' - IGN
@kandoh@reddthat.com avatar

Yeah, they think the Internet will get so quick that people will just stream every game from the cloud from any device and they want to be the leader of that.

glog78,
@glog78@digitalcourage.social avatar

@kandoh @simple i would rather say they are aiming for full control over the product ;) How dare you used a bug in our game to your advantage -> we block your acces to the game and of course to continous rising prices , cause there is no second hand deals ... let's hope that steam and gog will be really long available an people still buy games even it's much more expensive already ...

kandoh,
@kandoh@reddthat.com avatar

It’ll also save them from flops. They’ll be able to stick a game at the top of the front page and say it got 20 million streams like Netflix does with its shitty movies.

BigBananaDealer,

that would be cool. but id rather be able to download xbox games on my phone and play them offline

kandoh,
@kandoh@reddthat.com avatar

That will probably be a thing similar to how Netflix lets you download episodes for plane rides and such.

ShittDickk,

Then maybe they should take comcast to court over their 10 years unchanged 1.2 terabyte monthly data cap seeing as they can afford to.

TheTetrapod, do gaming w Star Citizen Pushes Through the $700 Million Raised Mark and No, There Still Isn’t a Release Date

Reminder that the SC episode of Down the Rabbit Hole came out 7 years ago.

ZombieMantis,
@ZombieMantis@lemmy.world avatar
TheTetrapod,

8

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Dedication. 🤣

ZombieMantis,
@ZombieMantis@lemmy.world avatar

👏 I’ll have to go rewatch it.

network_switch, do games w 'Xbox Hardware Is Dead,' Says Founding Team Member, 'It Looks Like Xbox Has No Desire — Or Literally Can't — Ship Hardware Anymore' - IGN

I’ve watched a video of hers before. My takeaway was that Microsoft is a heavily bloated company that suffocates internal development but with the OG Xbox and early 360, they were like a side bet that didn’t have a great deal of oversight from MS Windows/Office/Server mega money eyes.

They didn’t have a great deal of internal dev studios but they were really good at identifying third party exclusives to pursue and early on managed them and the few studios they did fully acquire well. It worked well for the first Xbox and first half 360. It differentiated the Xbox/360 from Nintendo and Playstation

Then I guess success led to changes in leadership aimed at growth and using Xbox as a platform to push more MS services and they lost the focus and ability to identify and secure great third party exclusives. That coupled with not having internal game dev teams in numbers and experience like Nintendo and Sony meant if they didn’t hit with their living room smart device dominance ambition, they’d just have a worse PlayStation. That’s what they ended up with with the XOne - a worse PS4. Then it happened again with the XSX because of lack of execution with their internal studios. An XSX just became a PS5-lite library-wise

surph_ninja, do games w 'Xbox Hardware Is Dead,' Says Founding Team Member, 'It Looks Like Xbox Has No Desire — Or Literally Can't — Ship Hardware Anymore' - IGN

Why should they be focused on it? Xbox is now just a slimmed down Windows pc. You can play the exact same games on a pc, with access to the same storefront.

What’s the problem exactly?

frezik,

Microsoft’s original plan was to own the living room the way they own the office space. Not just gaming, but all your movies, TV, shopping, etc. could be done through the XBox.

Kinect was a particularly big jump in that regard. There were demos of AR-type stuff where you could see yourself wearing clothes you might want to buy. You could move around and the clothes on screen would move with your body. There’s some promo videos of that, but nothing concrete ever came of it.

Now they have slagging sales for two generations, and a AAA industry that struggles to make a real hit and is laying off a lot of people. They can’t even hold onto the core gaming market much less get their tendrils into the rest of the living room. They then release a handheld that’s basically an upgrade of an existing handheld that wasn’t selling very well, but now with XBox branding.

Is this a problem for the rest of us? No, not really. There’s plenty of alternatives, and we don’t need to care. Is this the result the money people at Microsoft envisioned when they started this ~25 years ago? No, not at all.

surph_ninja,

The end goal of all of that is to sell software. If they can do that without supporting a massive pipeline for selling custom hardware, that makes sense.

rumba,

For wanting to own the living room, they never tried particularly hard. PS3 was a damned successful blueray player. They just needed to give you a nice, curated experience and ease of use. There were literally people buying PS3’s because they were cheaper than blueray players at the time

frezik,

Yeah, Sony is just better at this. They’re really good at taking advantage of their competitors’ mistakes.

We forget a lot now, but the opening of the PS3/Xbox 360 era looked like Microsoft was winning. Sales looked good for them, Blu-ray be damned. Then the Red Ring of Death hits. In some ways, Microsoft has yet to recover from that. Sony held their face just above the toilet water ever since.

octobob,

Yeah, just like PS2 and the DVD player built in. Being able to play movies up in my bedroom as an 11 year old was amazing. It was also the most cost effective way to buy something that could play DVDs and the cutting edge games at the time. There’s a reason why the PS2 remains the best selling console of all time

thatradomguy, do games w 'Xbox Hardware Is Dead,' Says Founding Team Member, 'It Looks Like Xbox Has No Desire — Or Literally Can't — Ship Hardware Anymore' - IGN

I’m all for Asus handheld becoming the future of Windows for consumer. Have little interest now in keeping it as a personal PC. Linux is the way now thanks to them force feeding Copilot and screen grabber.

echodot, do games w 'Xbox Hardware Is Dead,' Says Founding Team Member, 'It Looks Like Xbox Has No Desire — Or Literally Can't — Ship Hardware Anymore' - IGN

Well yeah because they screwed up one of their main franchises. All they had to do was leave Budgie alone to make Halo games, but no.

Bbbbbbbbbbb,

Bungie didnt want to make halo games anymore though

Psythik, (edited )

Well too fucking bad, cause Halo is the only thing they’re good at. They should have sucked it up and kept iterating on Halo 3. That game was peak Xbox.

whoisearth,
@whoisearth@lemmy.ca avatar

Hey MDK deserves another one.

SlartyBartFast,

Do you mean Max, Doc, and Kurt, or Murder Death Kill?

NikkiDimes,

Yeah, they should have sucked it up and made a passionless game, a shell of the former titles. Oh, wait.

RadioFreeArabia,

They should have given us another Lost Odyssey.

jsomae,

Halo: Reach > Halo 3

CatDogL0ver,

They can just be another Sega.

kayzeekayzee, do games w 'Xbox Hardware Is Dead,' Says Founding Team Member, 'It Looks Like Xbox Has No Desire — Or Literally Can't — Ship Hardware Anymore' - IGN

Part of the problem might be that I literally have no idea what their current console is called? Whoever was in charge of naming the last threeish xbox consoles should be fired out of a cannon

krashmo,

I mean, after the 360 they had XXXbox sitting right there and they acted like they were too good for it. Prudes.

MotoAsh,

It’s my sexbox and her name is Sony!

blattrules,

Yeah, totally agree on this. If you put the last two names in front of me and asked which was newer, I’d have no idea. The new one has multiple versions too so it makes it more confusing.

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

They had all that free marketting from people assuming the third one would be the 720 and they ditched it in favor of calling it the Xbox One, which everyone was already using for the name of the first Xbox. Still baffled by that one.

egrets, (edited )
@egrets@lemmy.world avatar

I can’t think of a single company worse at naming products and services than Microsoft. They have an abysmal track record. Some examples off the top of my head, all of which make web searches near-impossible:

  • They renamed Office 365 to just “365” (and then “365 Copilot”). The mind boggles.
  • They named their lightweight extensible code editor “Visual Studio Code”, despite the fact that they had a long-established IDE (for code) called “Visual Studio”.
  • They called their application framework “the .NET framework”, despite .net already being a popular TLD.
  • They called the replacement framework “.NET Core”, and after a few major versions, changed to calling it “.NET”, but it’s totally distinct from the .NET framework.
  • They called their ninth major desktop operating system “Windows 7”, then followed up with “Windows 8” and… “Windows 10”.
  • Their native web app replacement for Outlook is called “New Outlook”.
  • They recently renamed their Remote Desktop app “Windows App”. I have no words.
Agent_Karyo, (edited )
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

One would almost think they are having a laugh, but no it’s for real (I don’t think are intentionally trying to come up with such comically stupid naming policies).

Ephera,

Yeah, sometimes I wonder if they do these bad names for the free publicity of people complaining about them. But then there’s plenty examples where the name isn’t just clunky, but rather actively confusing for potential users…

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

You forgot about Teams (New)

Wispy2891,
@Wispy2891@lemmy.world avatar

You mean Teams or the other incompatible Teams, with the colors inverted on the icon?

echodot,

I have Teams (New) as well as New Team’s

Teams (New) is the next version of teams except I literally don’t know what they’ve done because I can’t see any difference.

New Teams appears to be a totally different project except again it looks identical but the calendar is different, they’ve actually managed to make the calendar worse, which is impressive since it was pretty goddamn unusable to start with.

I don’t understand why they have two development strands going on simultaneously.

BananaIsABerry,

Remember when they named their voice assistant after a video game character?

Kyre,

You all have no idea the idiocy of their naming and the confusion it causes with their business software: Microsoft Dynamics - This is an array of business software. Some of it is the same core platform with different features but many of the applications are acquisitions and run on different back-end platforms.

Microsoft Dynamics CRM (Customer relationship Management). They originally named their software to be the name of what it actually does. Not a bad idea so when people searched for that name, results would point to their software eventually. This is their Salesforce competitor.

After building market and name recognition and gaining market space, they renamed it to Dynamics Customer Engagement (CE). Then soon after split the product into modules or sub-products and called them: Dynamics 365 Sales, Dynamics 365 Customer Service, Dynamics 365 Field Service (which was a module acquired by Microsoft but was originally called field one sky), Dynamics 365 Project Operations (which was originally called Project Service Automation).

They had MDM (Microsoft Dynamics Marketing) which was an email marketing platform. This MDM is not to be confused with MDM (Mobile data management) but was actually just the first iteration of their marketing tool. They re-wrote it from scratch and called it “Dynamics Marketing”. They then re-wrote it a third time (they are in the process of finishing the re-write) and it is now called “Microsoft Dynamics Customer Insights and Journey’s”. A name that just rolls right off the tongue.

Accounting Software Microsoft GP - This was a Microsoft software acquisition of accounting software called “GP”. Microsoft has been the steward of this project for a very long time but it is currently being phased out and is in end-of-life. Microsoft SL - Another acquisition. Accounting software called Solomon. Microsoft still sells and support this software. It serves a particular niche. Microsoft F&BO - This is a complicated one so I am just going to map out the names of what it was and what it has become but this is Microsoft’s SAP/Oracle competitor for large organizations: Axapta -> Dynamics AX -> Dynamics Finance and Operations (F&O) -> Dynamics Finance and Operations and Supply Chain -> Dynamics Finance and Business Operations (F&BO) Microsoft BC - Microsoft Business Central was originally acquired by Microsoft as “Navision”. They renamed it Microsoft NAV and more recently re-wrote and re-named it to Microsoft Business Central (BC).

Long post but they really just suck at names and rename things constantly. From the business side, I think it’s intentional as it causes people to re-evaluate the software without any baggage from the name.

echodot,

There’s also Microsoft PowerBi. Just a wonderfully descriptive name.

echodot,

Microsoft suck at naming things in general. It’s a problem across every single branch of the business, people keep calling Office 365 0365 because Microsoft insists on calling it O365 and people think that’s a zero. Also the name makes no sense anyway, why not call it Microsoft Office Online?

Then we have Microsoft Azure, except they renamed that to Entra despite the fact that both names are stupid. Then of course there is the entirety of the Windows OS lineup.

Jesus_666,

Entra isn’t Azure. Entra ID is what they renamed Azure Active Directory to. But not always; there’s also Azure Active Directory B2C (yes, that’s the fully expanded name). And various other Azure-branded things that may or may not belong together.

Microsoft are spectacularly bad at naming things.

It’s a miracle they haven’t renamed Windows 11 to “360 365” or “Live 6.5” or “Active-DOS Series X” or something.

SoftestSapphic,
@SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world avatar

The current one is the Xbox Seriez Z4 pro classic

Cmon keep up

yarr,

I think It’s called Xbox Series 365 Office Copilot Pro+ for .NET

Venicon,
@Venicon@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t know what you mean. Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Xbox One S, Xbox One X, Xbox Series S and Xbox Series X all make perfect sense and leave zero grounds for confusion at all

Arello,

Lol, that has some pre-Switch Nintendo naming energy

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