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FartMaster69, do games w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN

“Because fuck you!” -Nintendo

SoftestSapphic,
@SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world avatar

-the children’s toy company

Flemmy, do games w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN

I’d rather pay for a large pizza tutorial. And eat it.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

“This is the stuffed crust… filled with cheese and pepperoni. It’s like calzone in a bread stick form factor!”

toxla, do gaming w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN

Ugh I have thought about getting a Switch for approx 6 months but decided to wait for Switch 2. I feel it is worth l as I don’t own the previous version, still all the complaints make me want to wait as well as I get that Nintendo strategy is not correct.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Good news! Used Switch 1 prices are about to crater…

onlooker, do gaming w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN
@onlooker@lemmy.ml avatar

“We want more money.” There, that’s the article.

midori_matcha, do games w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN
@midori_matcha@lemmy.world avatar

$10 is the “go fuck yourself” price for things that would otherwise be free.

You’ve already spent $450 on the console, $90 on a game, and $50 for the full online subscription. What’s $10 more dollars for the welcome demo? Go fuck yourself, pay the plumber man.

Hoimo,

Yeah, I expected them to ask the full $60 for it, which would be completely unreasonable, but at least I understand why they wouldn’t give it away then. But 10? They could easily eat that, they just don’t want to.

Either way, I can’t imagine anyone paying for a “game” that’s nothing more than an instruction booklet. If it were free, maybe someone would open it while Mario Kart is downloading.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

You expect Nintendo to do MULTITASKING? ;)

saigot, do gaming w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN

I think the runaway success of astrobot for the PS5 has got execs watering at the mouth. If It’s as good as astrobot then I don’t think 10bucks is all that crazy either.

Fribbtastic,

I would disagree with the last sentence.

Astrobot was actually a game. It was more like any other game that taught you how to play the game with the implemented features. This could have been any other game doing the same thing but it came directly from Sony.

Looking at the “Welcome Tour gameplay” video, this isn’t even close to what Astrobot did. It is a Hub in which you get told what those features are with minigames for that specific feature.

My point is: If the only point is to advertise the functionality of the console, charging any sort of money for it is not productive for what it should be achieving. You want people to learn how to use your console and then charge money for it will do the exact opposite. People won’t buy it because there is no benefit to actually buying it.

Any other game would teach you how to play it anyway.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJoAaOClzrY

saigot,

It sounds like you do agree with my last statement, I said if x then y. You said not x so not y.

uberstar,
@uberstar@lemmy.ml avatar

If It’s as good as astrobot then I don’t think 10bucks is all that crazy either.

… is not in agreement with

If the only point is to advertise the functionality of the console, charging any sort of money for it is not productive for what it should be achieving

…and it doesn’t look like a contrapositive either.

Astrobot is actually a fully-fledged standalone game, in which the PS5’s features are seamlessly baked into the core of the gameplay, rather than the core of the game being just the PS5 functionalities. The only other game I could think of and one you could compare it to more accurately is Tearaway (back when it was a PS Vita exclusive), because that was also a game that made use of every core functionality the console for that game had to offer.

The Welcome Tour is literally just PS Vita’s Welcome Park but with a few more mini games, the latter of which is free.

apfelwoiSchoppen, do games w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN
@apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world avatar

This is one of the dumber decisions Nintendo has made, and they put out the Wii U.

buddascrayon,

Nintendo is being exclusively run by suits now. The era of a game company built by gamers is over.

Steven,

Nintendo was never ran by gamers.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

You’re thinking iwata, but that was a brief blip on Nintendo history. The OG CEO was a straight up suit. The man had no interest in videogames, only business. Which is why they practically had a monopoly over their hardware in the 80s and 90s.

buddascrayon,

The OG CEO is from the 1800s so yeah. And yes I’m thinking of Iwata. And look at what was produced during his tenure. That’s the Nintendo everyone is nostalgic about nowadays. 1989 Nintendo was a corporation throwing spaghetti at the wall, 2000’s Nintendo was streamlining the end gamer experience, 2020’s Nintendo is looking for an easy paycheck.

samus12345,

It wasn’t even a bad system, just marketed terribly.

FartMaster69,

I would dispute the claim it wasn’t a bad system.

The gamepad as a mandatory component really gimped it hard.

SolidShake, do games w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN

It should be free

Lost_My_Mind,

May I introduce you to their last launch day tech demo… 1-2 Switch?

Yeah. You forgot about $60 launch day tech demo 1-2 Switch, didn’t you?

jacksilver,

The only reason they sold any was because the console released with like one game, which seems to be the same strategy this time around too.

Lost_My_Mind,

I remember buying breath of the wild, and sniperclips on day 1.

jacksilver,

Exactly, the only real first party game was BOTW (and that also released on the Wii u).

There were some smaller games, like 12 switch/snipperclips/fast rmx, but the switch on release (and most of its life) was struggling for games.

madjo,

It has a shitload of indie games and on top of that a lot of shovel ware though.

SolidShake,

Okay?

hperrin, do games w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN

I was on the fence about Switch 2, leaning toward not getting one. This just solidified that position. No way I’m paying for something that charges for the instruction manual.

JakobFel, do games w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN
@JakobFel@retrolemmy.com avatar

I feel like they’re trolling us at this point. There’s no way they’re this stupid.

weststadtgesicht,

How is this stupid? Call it greedy or anti-consumer, but in the end it will increase Nintendo’s profits so it’s far from stupid from the company’s perspective. People buy consoles no matter how bad they are treated. Maybe you should call consumers stupid instead?

JakobFel,
@JakobFel@retrolemmy.com avatar

The problem is that a company can only push their greed so far before they start losing people. Up until now, most of the Nintendo hate came from their anti-emulation crusade. Now, it seems like everyone and their brother is talking about just how absurd the entirety of this launch is.

omarfw,

On places like reddit, Lenny, etc where there is a vocal minority complaining about this. The vast majority of consumers don’t come on here nor do they keep themselves informed. They’ll grumble at the price a bit, then buy it anyway.

JakobFel,
@JakobFel@retrolemmy.com avatar

I’m not talking about Lemmy. I’m talking about literally every community I’ve looked. Aside from fanboys being fanboys, the reaction has been nothing but outrage.

Hadriscus,

No, disrespectful business practices don’t make the public stupid

samus12345,

Nintendo can and has pushed the greed too far for even Nintendo fans before. Wii U and 3DS at launch being fairly recent examples.

altima_neo, do gaming w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

It’s bullshit and we know it. The price of the system should have already absorbed the price of this crap .

That’s like telling us we should have paid an extra $60 for super Mario Bros, all stars, and world.

N64 and GameCube, and switch not coming with a pack in game was shameful.

TommySoda, do games w The Sims Competitor inZOI Sells 1 Million in a Week, Krafton Declares It a ‘Long-Term Franchise IP’

I’ve seen some people play it and it seems pretty cool. Although it doesn’t look amazing and seems pretty shallow, it’s only $40. The price tag alone is almost enough for me to give it a try. Any of the Sims games are hundreds of dollars at this point if you wanna buy the DLC. And that’s on a decent sale, too.

bundes_sheep,

It’s also early access, so it will presumably help with it being a bit shallow. There are a surprising amount of things locked behind various mechanics that I’m starting to stumble across. For example, if you’re a jerk to people enough your karma score will fall and now you have access to rifle through vending machines looking for loose change or robbing an ATM. I have a feeling there are a lot more of these kinds of things to discover.

Just getting out of the Sims price hell is worth it for me. I’ve had some good experiences with early access games in the past so I’m reasonably upbeat about what may come down the line.

reksas, do games w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN

"Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour is described as a “virtual exhibition” of the new hardware. Per Nintendo: “through tech demos, minigames and other interactions, players will get to know the new system inside and out in ways they may never have known about otherwise.”

So its basically just something that goes on about how great and wonderful switch is? And they want you to pay for it? This is so stupid I’m not sure if its even anti consumer anymore but somehow managed to go beyond to new and exiting levels of awfulness.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

It’s kind of like the Valve demo that’s free on the Steam Deck to go through all the features on the machine, except not as interesting.

ViscloReader, do games w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN

This demo/manual and the driving basketball game should be included in the system.

Think back to the 3ds with head wars and AR games, no way I’m buying such games but having them makes the system a bit more valuable.

bitwolf, do gaming w Switch 2 Tutorial Game Welcome Tour Costs $10, Nintendo Explains Why It's Not a Free Console Pack-In - IGN

How did I know that they were going to try to justify it with:

“They worked hard on it” and “but wait, there’s so much more!”.

Bullshit. I really hope we hold the line on this until they stop bluffing.

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