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Fingolfinz, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

This is why I just pirate games from big developers. They’re fuckers so fuck them anyway.

ElectroVagrant, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Ubisoft cannot complain when gamers “pirate” their games then.

If buying isn’t owning, piracy isn’t theft and all that.

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Goddammit… get the quote right:

If buying ain’t owning, piracy ain’t stealing.

Beacon,

Whose exact quote do you think you're quoting? Every time i hear this phrase it's always said the way OP said it, never the way you said it. Also please try to talk to people in a less pissy way

RightHandOfIkaros,

Piracy was never stealing, in so far as legality is concerned in the USA, at least.

Stealing requires the owner of the stolen thing to be deprived access of that thing. If someone steals your car, you cannot access it anymore, since it was removed from you by the thief.

Piracy copies your car, meaning you still can access your car but someone else can drive a copy of your car. The first example is a major inconvenience to you, the second example has absolutely no negative effect on you.

It is why instances of piracy that make it to a court of law are tried as Copyright Infringement cases, and not theft or piracy cases. When your ISP spies on you and sends you a letter after you pirate something in an insecure manner, you get sent a Notice of Copyright Infringement, not a Notice of Theft.

AtariDump,
Viking_Hippie,

In fact, I downloaded a Rimac Nevera just yesterday.

For Cyberpunk 2077, but still. Would, could, did.

state_electrician,

Exactly. It also means you’re being sued by the copyright holder and not the state. You won’t go to prison for this shit, as opposed to actual theft.

Owlboi,

Not only is that not a quote, but its not even right. Piracy was never stealing, its copyright infringement.

Fingolfinz,

Thanks for the clarification, it really drastically changes the meaning when said like this versus op…

RFBurns, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

The use of the words ‘buy’, “own” or ‘purchase’ in connection with DRM rental should be an international felony, and grounds for immediate break-up of businesses that use them.

ipkpjersi, (edited ) do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Technically they’re right, which is why pirating Ubisoft games is ethical.

Edit: Pirating Nintendo games is ethical too, of course.

And009,

There you go, offline mode ftw

the_trash_man, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

🏴‍☠️

samus12345,

It becomes more and more ethical as everything becomes more and more enshittified.

Lemminary,

Whaaat? You can’t just 🏴‍☠️ without a 🦜. Were you raised by wolves?? Smdh

ILikeBoobies, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

They’re right but it would be great if companies had to allow self hosting for products they make money from

Weirdfish,

That’s my argument, release the server code and the fans can host them.

Take your servers down, move on to your new games, but give us the tools to enjoy what we bought. It costs them nothing.

sp3ctr4l, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Looks like I’ll be pirating Black Flag for my next replay.

CalipherJones, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Good reminder to never buy an Ubisoft game.

SaharaMaleikuhm,

Their games have sucked for a long time anyways

GhostedIC, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Go Ross Go!

Killer_Tree,
supersquirrel, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Fuck Ubisoft.

If you want a good open world racing game, well Motor Town: Behind The Wheel isn’t strictly a racing game… nor technically even focused on being a racing game, it is an open world driving job simulator and there are lots of sports cars and you can do lots of jobs where you are racing against a clock.

There is also multiplayer and a custom race system (as well as actual race tracks interspersed in the world).

The reason I really recommend it though is the driving feels better then just about any other game I have ever played, especially tire grip modelling. I don’t know how to describe it other than it makes me uninterested in driving cars in most other games lol.

…steampowered.com/…/Motor_Town_Behind_The_Wheel/

LordWiggle,
@LordWiggle@lemmy.world avatar

Anything you buy on Steam is also not owned by you, you only buy the rights to play their game for as long as they allow you to. Just like with Ubisoft.

supersquirrel,

That is exactly why I also buy things on Good Old Games and also play open source games like Beyond All Reason, Xonotic, Cataclysm Dark Days Ahead, Luanti and other games like Vintage Story that I can purchase from itch or directly from the developer and install directly on my computer as well!

ihatefascist, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Give it another 5 years and Ubisoft will be dead, what was the last Ubisoft game without controversy/bad gameplay? I gotta go back 10 years or so

kameecoding,

When was the Mad Max game released?

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Mad Max is WB.

knatschus,

Anno 1800?

JackbyDev,

without controversy

Anno 1800 was an Epic exclusive (and Ubisoft’s Uplay) for a year on release. It was available for pre order on Steam. I believe people that bought it on Steam prior to the one year exclusivity deal still got it. It was a whole thing though. Definitely would call it a controversy.

Blackmist,

Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown was well received.

Their “AAAA” output is pure slop, but the smaller games can be OK.

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

Their Mario + Rabbids games are also great.

suite403,

I always assumed they were shit since they’re the only Nintendo branded games that go on sale for more than 10% off without a bundle.

Blackmist,

I think it’s only Nintendo published games that basically never go on sale.

Rabbids is unusual because it’s got Mario in but it’s not by Nintendo.

Their whole policy on never having a sale makes me not want a Switch 2 at all.

LunarLoony,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

They’re actually really nice, well-made X-COM lites. Great if you don’t want to immediately throw your kids to the Chryssalids.

Rabbids still kinda suck as a concept, but the games are good enough that I can look past it

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

Nah, they are published by Ubisoft, so they go on regular ubisoft style sales. They are pretty good games though. I haven’t played the second one yet, but first one was really well made and polished game.

jacksilver,

It’s such a shame that game didn’t get lore attention. It’s one of the best metroidvanias I’ve ever played and has amazing combat.

Edit: Talking about Prince of Persia Lost Crowns, the Mario rabbids game was also fun but not as good.

Nikelui,
@Nikelui@lemmy.world avatar

gamerant.com/prince-of-persia-the-lost-crown-sale…

Yeah, well received but poorly marketed. I guess they are focusing on the wrong games.

uis, (edited ) do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

EU cutizens can sign European Citizens’ Initiative that aims to prevent publishers using killswitches to permanently disable games. If it gets 1M signatures, it will be discussed in European Comission.

rollerbang,

That’s 1 million signatures, not 100k.

uis,

Derp. You are right.

bitjunkie, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

I never actually “paid” them, so they “cannot complain” when I take my money back

PancakeTrebuchet, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Things like this make it really easy for me to not buy anything from Ubisoft.

ErlandVisor, (edited ) do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

That’s why I boycott video games from Ubisoft. I loved and am nostalgic of their previous outstanding games from when it was great - think of Beyond Good and Evil, the original 3 Prince of Persia games and the assassin’s creed games until odyssey(I’m hesitant to include Valhalla, but I’m at witt’s end here as Einar Selvik sang and composed the ost of the game for goodness’ sake). I even paid a (🤮) connect+ subscription that they threatened at some point that some accounts may be lost as per a number of days of innactivity.

But enough is enough, Ubisoft be better prepared to not own a company and be manned by Tencent. As much as I hate even the latter, Ubisoft is a scummy company and needs to be properly grouped in the scummy companies even by allegiance.

I hope the European Citizen’s innitiative for video games passes, in the end. The source code/maintenance of discontinued/stopped projects ought to be maintained by the players and its community.

Notyou,

I didn’t play the new Prince of Persia because they wanted you to be logged in to play. It looked good, but there are just too many options for me to put up with shit like Ubisoft.

uis,
  1. Boycott doesn’t work, grab pitchforks and torches(EU citizens only).
  2. ECI does not specify method of compliance, so source code is not guaranteed. They might as well just slap address bar and comply.
endeavor,

Ubi used to have some neat stuff but post far cry 3 it is just the most generic, worst gameplay slop possible. And avarage person just loves repetetive slop.

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