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TwodogsFighting, do games w Why is Valve being sued for almost $900 million, but Epic Games wasn't sued when they bought Rocket League and Fall Guys to remove them from steam?

No one gives a flat fuck about epics launcher.

lofuw,

Stupid people do.

Grimy,

Everyone does the moment steam gets sued by consumers. It’s like the bar is set by epic or something and we can’t expect better things from any of them because of it.

marighost, do gaming w [UFO 50] Who would have known I hate golf so fucking much
@marighost@piefed.social avatar

I think most UFO 50 games ruin my self esteem. Some of those can be rough.

catfeeder,

UFO 50 is brutal and I love it for this. Cherrying Bushido Ball for the first time felt great!

fartsparkles, do games w Why is Valve being sued for almost $900 million, but Epic Games wasn't sued when they bought Rocket League and Fall Guys to remove them from steam?

If Epic spent half as much money as they are suing organisations and instead funded developing their shop into a gaming community platform like Steam, they’d probably have caught up by now.

warm,

Epic Games Launcher would always end up a pile of shit anyway. Tim Sweeney is a fuckhead and he has lots of investors to please.

fyrilsol,

He's also Tencent's bitch too.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

To be honest, Epic is doing a good job of tearing down walled gardens in places like mobile, and we’ll probably be better off for it. But yeah, they’ve done a terrible job of competing with Steam.

scrubbles,
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They only did that because they wanted their walled garden to be there too. Tim Sweeney is just butthurt his walled garden isn’t the biggest

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Of course, but…broken clock, you know? A large percentage of personal computers will be freed from Windows in large part because of Valve, even though they profit off of legalized child gambling addiction. And walled gardens in mobile will be broken down in large part because of Epic, which uses dark patterns to trick people out of their money in pursuit of a cultural hodge podge of nonsense that won’t even exist in a few decades.

Korkki,
@Korkki@lemmy.ml avatar

it’s often more risky and expensive to hire, train and develop systems and communities like that, especially when doing it against the tide, than to just try to trip up the competition. It’s not just that it’s dificult and it costs money, but it’s not preferred because investors abhor risks.

Isn’t this seen in global politics all the time. When US says China is too dominant in X and we need to fight it. They are not saying that US will invest in shit that will help them compete. All or 90% of the actions is to try to trip up, sabotage and sanction the competition.

Typhoon,

Just a bunch of crabs in a bucket.

yeahiknow3,

“Gaming community.”

Steam and Epic are both malware.

LifeLikeLady,
@LifeLikeLady@lemmy.world avatar

I wish they’d just focus on fixing Unreal. It’s a shit show.

zipzoopaboop,

Always has been

warm,

You dont like games that look like you have grease smeared over your monitor?

reksas,

its not about making better product for epic. its about removing competition so they dont have to.

SnotFlickerman, do games w Why is Valve being sued for almost $900 million, but Epic Games wasn't sued when they bought Rocket League and Fall Guys to remove them from steam?

What are they being sued for? I guess I missed this?

Also I guess it could be argued they only removed it from new sales whereas people who already owned those titles on Steam still have them on Steam.

eli, (edited )
@eli@lemmy.world avatar

They are being accused of price fixing with the whole “can’t sell games for cheaper on other store fronts compared to the steam listing” thing

warm@kbin.earth explains it better below:

It only applies to Steam product keys though, so developers cannot sell cheap Steam keys on other platforms while still taking advantage of Steam’s services.

SnotFlickerman,

Oh well that’s totally fair, honestly.

It locks out real competitive pricing.

warm,

It only applies to Steam product keys though, so developers cannot sell cheap Steam keys on other platforms while still taking advantage of Steam's services.

eli,
@eli@lemmy.world avatar

Yes this is a more apt description, sorry, this whole thing has been stupid tbh.

Cavemanfreak,

I believe the problem is that it isn’t just Steam keys. There’s apparently emails from Valve employees that state that it’s all versions of the game, and that seems to be the real crux here. And if that’s true it’s pretty shitty, and they might actually lose this.

mic_check_one_two,

It only applies to steam keys though. Like if you want to sell on other storefronts (like Epic) for cheaper, it’s perfectly fine. You simply can’t sell steam keys on other storefronts for cheaper. It’s not really “price fixing” as much as it is “Steam ensuring their servers aren’t used to download the game unless the dev has properly paid them for the key”…

Like imagine a company wants to sell more copies of their game. So they set up their own site to sell directly to consumers, and it’s cheaper than buying on Steam. This is totally fine. Consumers can still choose to add the standalone version as a non-Steam game to be able to launch it via Steam.

It’s only a breach of contract if they start offering steam keys for that same (cheaper) price, which allows the game to be downloaded via Steam, includes achievement integrations, includes Steam’s friend list “join game” multiplayer, includes Steam Deck/Steam Machine optimizations, etc… If they want all of those nice Steam integrations, they need an official Steam key. And that Steam key can’t be sold cheaper than on Steam’s official store.

bookmeat,

I think this lawsuit is actually about allowing people to buy dlc from other stores for games that you bought through steam?

unknown1234_5,
@unknown1234_5@kbin.earth avatar

ah yes, they are price fixing by saying devs can't set the price on steam (which the devs control) higher than the price on other platforms (which the devs also control)

nogooduser,

I’m pretty sure that Amazon also says that you can’t sell things on Amazon for more than you sell the same item elsewhere.

I’ve certainly seen a video claiming that.

GuerillaGorillas,

Which isn’t accurate and is more nuanced involving Steam keys like another user said. For instance, Prey is on sale for $6 on the PlayStation store but still $30 on Steam.

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lath,

As per my understanding (which isn’t saying much), Steam takes a 30% cut of each sale. In UK, someone with a specific agenda claimed to represent gamers as a class and sued reasoning that the 30% cut inflates the price of games globally even beyond Steam’s store, harming everyone.

Did i understand it right? No idea. What’s the actual goal here? Also no idea. Is Steam the “good guy” in all this? Of course not.

lofuw,

Well that’s stupid. If Steam charged less, the price of games wouldn’t change.

Developers and publishers would just pocket the difference.

Adeptus_Obsoletus,

Is Steam the “good guy” in all this? Of course not.

Too bad a lot of people, even here or in other threads, don’t get it, so they willingly cheer for Valve simply because Tim Sweeney sucks.

KoboldCoterie,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

I think devs actually get quite a bit for that 30%. Let’s present a hypothetical. What if Valve offered an option where you could list your game on Steam with no restrictions and they’d only take a 10% cut, but the tradeoff is, they won’t promote your game at all? Like, it won’t show up in any Steam storefront advertisements, can’t participate in sales, etc. - it’s still there if it’s linked to from off-Steam or if someone searches for it, but it won’t be promoted, period.

How do you think that would work out for developers? I’d argue not well, especially for small studios.

The promotion those games get applies to the game as a whole, not only through Steam - someone can see the promotion on Steam, then go shop around and buy it elsewhere. Why should Valve promote a game if they aren’t getting a cut of the sales?

gustofwind, do games w Why is Valve being sued for almost $900 million, but Epic Games wasn't sued when they bought Rocket League and Fall Guys to remove them from steam?
@gustofwind@lemmy.world avatar

Epic is trash, simple as

melroy, do games w Day 564 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing
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I love Halo.

aeronmelon, do games w Day 564 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

Elite: “I should buy a boat.”

wizardbeard, do games w Day 564 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

At the risk of sending you down a rabbit hole, there are some people who use Reshade on non-online games to do “game photography”. You could go as light as overlaying a grid, or more complicated stuff like simulating lens focal length, removing fog, adjusting colors, adding bloom, bokeh, etc.

It’s meant for overlaying complex graphical effects while you play, but there’s a small dedicated community of people using it to set up the perfect still shots. It’s definitely a deep rabbit hole.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I tried getting into it for a little bit, especially when playing Arkham Asylum with some of the more advanced tools like freecam. Reshade i’ve had a few brushups with though, and even used it to simulate a CRT effect on Halo CE/2. The only downside is i have to remember to manually turn Anticheat off, which thankfully isn’t too hard, just i forget too and then get confused why it won’t run. I might try experimenting with it though for some more artsy screenshots. I’d love to start going in that direction with screenshots, or at least some of them

Chill_Dan, do games w TRIMUI Brick Hammer, a weirdly named but beautiful handheld

Do you get to keep the stuff they give you to review?

PerfectDark,
@PerfectDark@lemmy.world avatar

I do, yes!

I’m offered a variety of things to review, but since this is a friend’s site, I’m not paid to review nor write, and there’s no ads on the site…I’m lucky enough to not have to review everything to survive. Or even to keep the content machine going like most YouTubers have to. I just do this for fun!

I just accept the handhelds I find interesting to me, the ones I find most unique.

But I’ve written for a few years now in various gaming spaces, so I do understand why I get asked :)

And I also feel very lucky to do so! I really love gaming handhelds, its a passion of mine :)

zergtoshi, do games w TRIMUI Brick Hammer, a weirdly named but beautiful handheld

Thanks for this review!
I haven’t found any information regarding external controllers or DisplayPort at the USB-C output both at the sepcifications and your review.
I’m aware that it is not the intended use case to make it a kind of stationary console. But to be honest, I’d very much appreciate being able to attach it to an external monitor and use a separate controller when playing at home.
I figure this is the wrong type of device for me then, but wanted to ask you just to be sure about it.

PerfectDark,
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Ahhhhhhh no problems!

Yes you’re right, this handheld won’t do video out. That’s both a software and hardware limitation on this one, but so many of these handhelds do that with ease. Its just a case of narrowing down which one is right for you.

I’d recommend reading through this post on Reddit if you’re not adverse to visiting the site, its titled

The last two devices I tested for and utilized video out on for reviews were high-end handhelds (the AYN Odin 3 Max and the Anbernic RG477V), but again…a huge variety of that for you!

I do hope this helps a tiny bit :)

zergtoshi,

Thank you for your reply, it helps a ton!
I plan to complement my SteamDeck with a tiny portable emulator, but would love to use it at home in the same way as the SteamDeck, which is in part stationary.
I’m aware that the SteamDeck could do the emulator part well, but taking it with you and whipping it out for a short gamining session is not one the SteamDeck’s strong suites.

hzl, do games w Video games, random friend requests, and scammers!

Aren’t those attempts to jack your steam account? I remember hearing something a few years back about people being able to “recover” an account by having a certain number of friends put in a ticket saying it was stolen.

Or maybe that was discord. Either way, as a result I don’t add randos.

rollin,

I hadn’t heard of that one, a kind of social engineering attack. Definitely something to keep in mind!

as a result I don’t add randos

This is generally my attitude, and it sucks really that ignoring random friend requests is usually the sensible thing to do. Anyway so far this person does seem to be genuine and hasn’t tried to get me to add a load of their friends or anything like that.

MyNameIsAtticus, do games w The best random character in terraria so far
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

Another update? Damn. I still haven’t caught up with the last one. Makes me glad to see them supporting the game so thoroughly

TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus,

It’s 1.4.5 and there’s many QoL features (building platform is finally doable without cursing) and stilistic choices (all characters have cute portraits). Even the door and items handling has been improved, now selecting and closig doors is fast and easy. Also npc can now use stairs so they won’t be isolate to their respective level Beyond that there is a new npc with a dead cell collab (you’ll see it’s the room with the hanging bottles) and even a kingdom hearts one too. I still can’t tell the whole of it because there is a lot of stuff in a single update

bridgeburner, do games w TRIMUI Brick Hammer, a weirdly named but beautiful handheld

Where do you get the games for it from?

PerfectDark,
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If you go to archive dot org and search for romsets, or for ‘tiny best set go’, you’ll see a big collection there!

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

“Tiny best set go”

"Big collection"

  • suspicious squint *
PerfectDark,
@PerfectDark@lemmy.world avatar

Tiny Best Set Go is a ROM set specifically compiled for the Miyoo Mini family of handhelds. Its basically the best games for each system.

But…those are ROMs which work with any handheld.

Ironically the large size of it is tiny…comparatively anyway!

ToTheGraveMyLove,

/r/Roms Megathread

Saucepain, do games w TRIMUI Brick Hammer, a weirdly named but beautiful handheld

I’m currently waiting for an Anbernic rg-35xx to arrive, but this was definitely on the shortlist during my research! In the end, availability and the joysticks were the deciding factors, but interested to hear how you think those two compare.

Hegar, (edited ) do gaming w Microtransactions, more like Epstein Taxes
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This sounds like it's talking about parenting, right? How to motivate kids to read?

Also this is someone forwarding epstein an email from bobby kotick without any input from epstein.

How is it that "microtransaction can be traced to epstein" when it doesn't mention microtransactions and epstein doesn't say anything?

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