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slazer2au, do games w Akasa Ai, I need some help here.

The app store should have contact info for the devs.

who, (edited ) do games w Gamepad for Linux Gaming?

Sony’s DualShock 4 and DualSense controllers are plug & play on Linux. (IIRC, Sony contributed native drivers.) They work nicely over USB or Bluetooth. Their motion controls are great if you ever play certain console emulators or want to map them to mouse-like movement in Steam Input. (I use this for free look in flight sims.) The built-in touchpad is nice for navigating menus on PC games without having to reach for the mouse. I think they also support headphones, which might be handy when playing while others in the house are sleeping, but I haven’t tried that feature.

Edit:

Also, the analog stick dead zones are nice and small, which can be helpful in some games. They are traditional potentiometer-based Alps sticks, but mine have not developed stick drift in half a decade of use. (Perhaps because I keep my controllers clean and never throw them across the room.) If they ever do start to drift, I can calibrate them in Linux.

Some people prefer sticks with Hall effect sensors for their resistance to stick drift. I like the idea, but those also consume more power, affecting battery life. Some day, perhaps tunnel magnetoresistance (TMR) sensors will be used in more game controllers and retrofit sticks. Those seem to offer the best of both worlds: low power consumption and drift resistance. Since stick drift hasn’t been a problem for me anyway, I’m happy to stay with Sony controllers and all their nice features for now.

Edit 2:

Well, look at that: Valve is using TMR sensors in their upcoming Steam Controller.

Holytimes,

Dualsense controllers are likely the best controllers you can buy for PC gaming.

Fully supported feature set, including microvibrations the pressure triggers and even the mic and speaker. The touch pad is a god send for PC gaming too.

prole,

DualSense are just the best controllers out there, in terms of features, period.

I think I prefer the feel and layout of XBone controller though

Link,

Haptic vibrations aren’t supported over Bluetooth and aren’t supported in all games when using Proton even though it works correctly on Windows.

ieGod,

Love the DS4s. I’m not a fan of the asymmetric analogs of other controllers, though I will tolerate them.

Bronzebeard, do gaming w Look how much I'd need to purchase a fraction of their game time!

And this is why mmos have remained a stagnant, boring festering pile for multiple decades…

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe YOUR mom has.

Edit: Oh, mmos, my bad, OP. No offense intended.

Madison420,

Yeah I heard EverQuest got bought and re-onlined but I’ve heard it’s not great and iirc they tried to add micro transactions.

I just wanna kill space frogs inside the moon like it’s 2005.

Korhaka,

I would say it’s WoW style MMOs that are. Other options can be interesting.

Foxhole and at some point Anvil Empires for example are very different.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

I remember a lot of love for the Guild Wars franchise and for the Star Wars: The Old Republic MMOs.

But as a business model, they’re dinosaurs in every sense of the term. Very expensive to produce and maintain. You really need a critical mass of players to cover the costs. They can’t compete on graphics/gameplay relative to your Looter-Shooters or JRPGs. And once the title launches, you’ve got this vanguard of power-users/whales who demand all your attention while the bulk of your player base burns out before they even get to the endgame. So unlike a seasonal Fortnite or Minecraft, you risk a rapid fall-off in participation unless you can satisfy both the high and low ends of the market.

When there’s one or two big MMOs, they can build these enormous audiences and clean up. When there’s a million of them, they can’t kept people engaged long enough to cover their operating costs.

SlurpingPus, (edited ) do games w What's a recent game you've tried playing that isn't worth the hype?

I love everything about ‘Disco Elysium’ in isolation. Art style? Gorgeous. Grimy noiry mood, right up my alley. I love isometric RPGs, though it’s been a while since I played any. Writing is great, from what I’ve heard. Novel mechanics, probably beautiful.

Only, I get into a couple dialogs and realize I need a second computer on the desk, to type up notes. Ain’t no way I’m remembering any of that, especially since I tend to take long breaks in a playthrough. And I just decided in recent years that I need to pay closer attention to stories in games, which I neglected to do back in my youth.

I’ve put twenty notes into the phone (with swipe-typing, thankfully), and that ended my initial experience.

leftzero,

You’re playing a middle aged detective (though he looks older, or at least more worn down) who just woke up from an alcoholic coma after taking all the drugs, unable to remember anything about himself or the world he lives in, except for the fact that there might have been a woman, which was somehow both the best and the worst, and possibly some trivia about disco.

I don’t think you’re supposed to be able to remember or understand everything the game throws at you, at least on a first playthrough. That’s what Kim is for.

Just go with the flow, and remember that in this game failure often leads to more enjoyable outcomes than success.

SlurpingPus, (edited )

But he’s a professional detective, presumably with the skill to gather information and put it together. Meanwhile I’m a professional scatterbrain who writes down notes for programming projects that take more than a day. It would be unrealistic for me to roleplay as him, especially if I step away from the game for a couple weeks and forget most of the details. If I can code while hungover, he probably can do detective stuff while hungover.

leftzero,

He was a professional detective. You know, before he erased his brain with massive quantities of alcohol and drugs.

It’s up to you to decide who he is now.

Raphaël Ambrosius Costeau, reincarnation of Kras Mazov and art cop, is one of the many possibilities where gathering and putting information together would be… secondary, to say the least.

Just put your points in Drama or Inland Empire, and dull concepts like “reality” will be quite irrelevant for our good detective (much to Kim’s stoic chagrin). 🤷‍♂️

prole,

What are you making notes of? I never had this urge.

Also, in case you weren’t aware, Steam has notes built in and it saves them for each individual game

SlurpingPus,

Stuff about the setting that I learn from the characters. Perhaps you have better memory than me.

Steam has notes built in

This is great to know. I need to see if Steam accepts my copy of the game, for which I didn’t pay to the company after what they did to the developers.

prole,

You can add any game to Steam and play it through it. Just add the exe as a non steam game.

You must have a better memory than me

I wouldn’t be so sure lol… The game has some built in “mission” stuff, and I’m sure I probably accidentally went to the same place a couple of times when trying to figure out how to progress, but never felt the need to write anything down. I found that the dialogue itself was usually good enough to remind me of anything important I might need to know for the current conversation

SlurpingPus,

It’s just that I made a resolve recently-ish that I need to properly get into stories in games. Unlike back in the day, when I played through ‘Half-Life’ 1 and 2 and gathered pretty much nothing about the plot. ‘Disco Elysium’ seems to be the type of a game where a lot of the story is in the details dropped by the characters, reading materials, etc.

I’ve been recently replaying the original ‘Deus Ex’, and had Denton crawl around every level for hours, reading each newspaper and poster he comes across. The papers do in fact frame the main story, clarifying the relations between factions and such.

An extreme case of this is apparently the ‘Elder Scrolls’ universe, with which the community gathered sizeable lore and history that goes several layers deep. I’ve never played the games (perhaps for the best), and only happened upon a tangential discussion about this, but the impression was that they’re deciphering it like ‘Ulysses’.

daannii,

I kept dying. And I couldn’t figure out how anyone dies in a narrative game. I couldn’t really figure out how to play the game and gave up after dying 2x in the same conversation.

I’m still so confused how one dies from conversation.

Instead I watched a video about the game.

I play a lot of games but nothing like this one. I wanted to like it but I’m too dumb to figure out the mechanics. And I even tried watching videos and found them convoluted and confusing.

Meh.

Loved the art style tho.

Menschlicher_Fehler, do games w I finished all (current) main quest content for Death Trash
@Menschlicher_Fehler@feddit.org avatar

Still waiting for the full release before buying/playing it. I tend to burn myself out on Early Access games before they are finished, never returning for 1.0.

setsneedtofeed,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

I often agree with this, though for Death Trash given the slow pace of major updates I figured I’d just jump in. It only took me about 10 hours to beat the main content, and a few more hours poking around to feel finished with the game. This isn’t something like Zomboid with a big sandbox element to sink hours and hours into.

Honestly, at the pace it’s being updated I don’t know if it will get a huge proper ending.

grue, do games w Sliced off the tip of my thumb, what are some good one handed games?

Anything on PC with a mouse/keyboard, maybe with the spacebar remapped.

SupraMario,

This was my immediate thought…tons of games that don’t need spacebar at all.

wirelesswire,

Might be fine with space bar as-is. I use the side of my thumb for the space bar, not the tip.

ICCrawler, (edited ) do games w For those of you who enjoy open-world games, how big of a world is too big?

Nothing much new to say, just reiteration. A big or huge or gigantic map is fine, so long as it’s populated by meaningful content.

Really wish Forspoken had been more populated. It’s a huge world, and combat/abilty wise it’s a great pure-mage action game, which I really really loved about it, that’s not a very common thing. But my god, the world is so empty despite being so big, and most side objectives are just collectothons. There’s some more difficult endgame content, but no real reason to grind up for it.

salacious_coaster, do games w What's your favorite case of a game making fun of you?

The old point-n-click flash game Johnny Rocketfingers had a bunch. There was a part where you had to find a way out of a jail cell or something, and if you used the hand tool on a crack in the wall, your character just says “feels cracktacular.”

Oh, and there was the old original You Don’t Know Jack game where if you told the host “fuck you” or something similar in the answer box, they’d just lose patience with you and exit the game for you.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

I remember playing “you don’t know jack” and someone accidently hit the buzzer before the question was even on the screen. The host said “okay smart guy, think you know the answer before the question is read? Go ahead.” And the game gave them a blank screen to type their answer into.

Rai,

In an old version of “Who Wants to be a Millionaire” for the computer, if you take too long before starting a game, Regis gets pissed at you and starts yelling at you. If you take a bit longer. He closes the game.

mintiefresh, do games w What are your favorite games from a worldbuilding standpoint?
@mintiefresh@piefed.ca avatar

Mass Effect.

hodgepodgin, do gaming w The oldest Minecraft server, MinecraftOnline, is being shut down by Microsoft

When will Microsoft care about all the P2W servers that get kids addicted to gambling

Talaraine, do games w When was the last time you actually laughed while playing a game?

Baldur's Gate 3, quite often

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

Just yesterday, when I told the great wizard Lorroakan

spoilerthat the Nightsong is dead. “That always happens to me!”

the_crotch, do games w When was the last time you actually laughed while playing a game?

Portal/portal 2

kbobabob, do games w Ark Nova

Can anyone recommend an active board game community?

AwesomeLowlander,
kbobabob,

Subscribed, thanks

CaptKoala, do games w Why would I buy this?

I took a break from necesse after no lifing it for weeks after I discovered it. Now that it’s just hit 1.0 I managed to gift a copy to a friend, and watching him outgrow my hard earned knowledge in a day with some guidance in mechanics was probably the most satisfaction I’ve felt this year.

Indies are carrying the industry and have been for a long time. Hmu for some necesse.

TigerAce,

That’s really nice! I’m finding it hard to start a proper game, I need some motivation. Hopefully a friend of mine has time to play together :)

CaptKoala,

DM me if you fail to find friends to play with, they also have a discord server and I see folks playing in there basically daily.

anarchyrabbit,

Ooo I stumbled across this yesterday, peaked my interest and I bought it. Looks interesting, can’t wait to play it!

CaptKoala,

I’m at 60hrs and counting. Started new char and world for 1.0 as well as play with my bud and so far we’ve basically caught up to where my pre1.0 save was at.

Katana314, do games w Why would I buy this?

I can’t say I like how /Games often circles around negative attention rather than positive.

Activision spent billions on marketing so people will buy these stupid Ultra Editions. Even negative attention gets people thinking about and talking about the game.

Instead, post about the cool indie games out that you think deserve far more attention than this battle pass slop. Let Activision come check up on us and cry because for all their efforts no one even cares to hate on their game.

Theres an asymmetric game out as a demo, called Carnival Hunt. It has a really unique aesthetic, and isn’t all that fun yet, in part because of the formula being refined and players getting better at it. But I like the idea: Rather than TCM’s idea of unlocking doors towards an exit, the survivors, “bunnies”, are trying to climb the floors of a large building, with each method of ascending a floor requiring various tools and making noise. Some ways up are harder to set up but easier to repeat, others only work if the killer is ignoring them.

Credibly_Human,

Let Activision come check up on us and cry because for all their efforts no one even cares to hate on their game.

The reality is that we are on a relatively small decentralized reddit clone.

We truly are the most exceptional exceptions.

Most people cant even begin to think of caring about what we care about.

Activision certainly doesnt.

Zahille7,

This is the reality everyone on Lemmy, and even reddit, needs to face. We’re a minority of a minority of people. All the people who glaze and go nonstop about Linux? That’s not even half of Lemmy users, and you can find someone like that in just about every thread on Lemmy, regardless of context.

We’re such a miniscule group of people we probably wouldn’t even register on studies about social behavior.

MrScottyTay,

Ooo Linux mentioned?

What distro are you currently on, I’m intrigued

Zahille7,

I’m one of the ones who doesn’t give a shit about that. On my PC I use windows, and my phone is android.

MrScottyTay,

I wasn’t actually trying to be serious by the way

Credibly_Human,

I tried to use OpenSUSE tumbleweed for about 6 months as my main desktop, but eventually due to many of the things I wanted to do being a real pain to do in linux, said fuck it and went back to windows whilst building a new high end gaming rig.

It really sucks as I hate Microsoft with a burning passion, but if you want to play games, or use many CAD packages or make music, or watch videos (specifically with pot player for me, as it absolutely dunks on VLC unfortunately), then you just have to use Windows.

I haaaaaate the obvious attempts by the new taskbar to control user behaviour.

I hate the spying which it takes a while to turn most of it off, I hate… a lot, but the world is how it is.

I’m very thankful for Steamdecks gaining steam so that one day hopefully gaming on linux will be possible, and maybe adoption goes up and then maybe other apps follow.

Maybe the US collapse will have Europe mass switching, causing professional apps to also move over, especially CAD.

MrScottyTay,

Bigwig studio is a great ableton replacement that is Linux native too. Made by some of the original team from ableton too iirc.

Theres also Reaper if you want something closer to FL studio.

I’m not into CAD stuff at the moment but I’m pretty sure there are some really good open source ones out there at the moment that are Linux native also.

I’ve not had any issues with any games on bazzite or cachyos either. Although I don’t play AAA multiplayer games with the shitty anti cheats, which i think are the only ones that don’t work now. Master Chief collection is about as close to that as I go but that works completely fine.

Keep in mind with bazzite and cachyos i also didn’t need to do any tinkering to get the games to work. They just do.

Credibly_Human,

I’m not into CAD stuff at the moment but I’m pretty sure there are some really good open source ones out there at the moment that are Linux native also.

Oh I wish, but the only thing worth anything is FreeCAD, and it is literally pain to use. The UI is infamously horrific, they’re only now sort of fixing basic issues like the infamous topology issue, and it seems like the devs are dead set on breaking all the standard UI and UX conventions of every other CAD program since the beginning of time, and its just pain to use or learn.

Then it breaks your designs all the time too with cryptic errors.

The other ones, some of them only have basic modelling capabilities, are completely programatic, and you have no hopes of doing things like FEA or anything like that, much less motion studies or the other basics you need to successfully make a lot of things.

Its in a painful state, and CAD, if you even want to make a cent with other CAD software is bare minimum almost 1000 USD per year.

Its very depressing if you are a more creative person and not made out of money.

Keep in mind with bazzite and cachyos i also didn’t need to do any tinkering to get the games to work. They just do.

I’ve been told this many times, and sure its true for single player games without awful DRM schemes, but you can basically count multiplayer games out, and many games that have awful phone home systems.

Its ultimately like, how much do i want to fight my own operating system, and when people have a finite level of burn before burnout, how much do you really want to spend of that burn on an operating system you use daily?

Its a heavy cost for not that much benefit, especially with so much on fire right now.

Maybe Ill try again eventually if there is at least a competent CAD package available.

MrScottyTay,

Like I said, I play quite a bit of multiplayer games that work fine. Just not the shitty live service with awful kernel level anti cheat ones which you would never have caught me playing even back on windows.

The only notable games I know that don’t work are valorant and league because of their anti cheat, but i would never want to play them anyway. I’ve played marvel rivals on bazzite though, perfect experience, ended up running better on the same hardware than it did on windows.

I also feel like I have to fight against windows now more then ever. I currently still have to use it for work and it can be a nightmare at times. On Linux if something is wrong I can almost always find a way to fix it. Most of the time you’re shit out of luck on windows 11.

Credibly_Human,

I gotta be honest, there was, and always seems to be so much more to fight against whenever I use linux pretty much purely because there is just less third party support for it.

The number of things that I just give up on because I know itll be another multi hour fight for something basic are too high.

Like KDE Plasma is goated, but I just, from personal experience, just don’t buy the idea that you don’t fight more on linux. You have more agency, but you also have to use it more.

I have 2 modern desktop systems, so Ill probably continue to play with it, and I certainly will obviously keep using it for my NAS, self hosting projects, but in terms of a desktop os, oof; I don’t have the energy/fight/will and resolve.


I’ve used linux systems for years btw, in jobs, in my personal life etc, so really the only thing that was new was trying to use it as my main desktop self administrated OS for general purposes.

MrScottyTay,

A lot of my recent experiences have been with arch and because it’s always up to date and AUR being as expensive as it is, I always seen to find an easy way to install something, even third party stuff. I’ve never hit any of the issues people have with saying an update can break your system yet, but then again I only install what I need and always uninstall stuff that I either installed accidentally or no longer need.

I tried fedora with nobara for a bit because I liked bazzite, but it wasn’t for me. I got too used to what’s available to me via arch or at least being used to know where to look for that stuff on arch vs fedora

TigerAce,

Instead, post about the cool indie games out that you think deserve far more attention

That’s why I ended my post with the games I enjoy and recommend :)

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