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hanging_moon, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #19

Thank you for these wonderful posts, always a highlight on lemmy for me! And sorry to hear about the nerve damage, I hope things turn out okay for you! 🙏

As for what I’m playing, I’ve really only been playing the roguelite “no return” mode in the last of us part two lately. It puts you in a series of randomized combat encounters with different mods (some buffs, some debuffs), leading up to a final boss encounter. I found the gameplay in part 2 to be a fantastic improvement over the first game so it’s nice to have a mode that focuses in on the mechanical aspects of the game. I also love the character and weapon upgrades in the story modes for TLOU and no return condenses that experience from 10-20 hours down to around 30-40 minutes, so it’s nice to be able to experiment with different builds in a low investment scenario. Good stuff! Hoping they expand the mode with more maps and such but not holding my breath.

The only downer for me about it - it makes me really miss the “factions” multi-player mode from the original game. That was an absolute blast with friends back in the PS3 era. Anyone else play that and miss it? RIP standalone factions game 😭

slazer2au, do games w The magic of remembering—and talking about—video games

Nostalgia before gaming became preorder exclusive, endless DLC that should have been part of the game, and live service.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, instead it was quarter-munching arcade machines, obtuse puzzles to sell strategy guides, and individual games that could cost up to $90 in early 90s money.

Rhynoplaz,

I remember trying to convince my mom that $200 for an SNES is significantly less expensive in the long run than quarters at the arcade. 😂

Yermaw, do games w PC Gaming’s Mascot Squad—who makes the cut?

https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/8ad26696-5790-4abd-be49-605ba8dad637.gif

Im going to nominate one of these little guys

Rhynoplaz, do games w The magic of remembering—and talking about—video games

Just the other day my brother came over and we played OG Bubble Bobble. Two guys over 40 sinking a few hours into an adorable little co-op game. We got to the final boss and called it a night.

I picked it back up the next day, eventually beat that boss and texted my brother to let him know we beat the game.

gegil, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

For me it was war thunder. Seen this game advertised on youtube a while ago, and about year ago i decided to just install it and see what this game is. Firstly i liked it. It was fun game to play. After some time of playing this game, i wanted to see videos of this game on youtube, and thats where i found a lot of criticizm for this game. Only after hitting about 60 hours of total playtime, i started understanding the hate for this game myself. I did not played war thunder ever since. For context, the main reason for hate to this game is that it is too grindy, and it will take hundreds of hours to reach top tier, even with premium account.

Saleh,

I remember having a lot of fun in the first two or three tiers of war thunder. But then the higher tiers hit, everything gets way too fast and you have to deal with too many sweaters.

RisingSwell,

Can confirm, several hundred hours in and I have like, 3 usable jets with missiles. And I deliberately rushed the shortest tech line to get them faster. And Im basically permanent premium.

How the fuck is a free player meant to do it

augustus672,

That’s the neat part, you aren’t! Gaijin 100% expects you to pay to get to top tier.

frenchfryenjoyer,
@frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world avatar

it’s very pay to win. it feels good to play at first then your progress stagnates to the point of frustration and paying players get put in the same matches as non paying players. paying players get access to entirely new planes and upgrades and they always kill me soon after i spawn.

MurrayL, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

I’m sure there are lots of examples for me, but I guess one that comes to mind is 007: The World Is Not Enough for PS1.

Reading/hearing about it as an adult, not only is it seen as a poor follow up to Goldeneye, but also the PS1 version is the worse of the two releases, with the general consensus being that the N64 version is better.

Back in the day, though, I didn’t know any better and I loved it. I expect most people have games like that.

Battle_Masker, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

Yoshi’s Story. Yeah it’s short, and level unlocking is weird as all outdoors, but people really hating on it for being too easy? Bro, it’s a YOSHI game. That’s a quarter of the appeal! It’s a game you can get younger kids involved in, or you can play after a hard day when you want to turn your brain off partially.

Plus almost everything in that game is adorable. And 64 bit sprite art is goated

otp,

I dunno, Yoshi’s Island can get pretty hard…

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Story (N64), not Island (SNES).

whygohomie,

Its the context and expectations. The last “Yoshi” game was a mainline Super Mario World 2, and people expected similar scope and challenge but in 64 bits. Super Mario 64 had further primed people for crazy genetlrational leaps. Yoshi’s Story was a fine game, but it wasnt SMW3 by a longshot.

Zarxrax,

Exactly this. Yoshi’s Story was a follow up to Yoshi’s Island, often considered one of the greatest 2d platformers of all time. I spent weeks if not months completing Yoshi’s Island. Then when Yoshi’s Story came out, I rented it and completed it over the weekend.

criss_cross,

I loved Yoshi’s Story as a kid. Never knew there was hate for it for a long time.

Rai,

I loved it but I was sad I completed it before the rental period was up.

11111one11111, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

Every game that ever gets released when you check gaming forums within the first month of a game’s release lol /s

Im joking. I get the sentiment that a finished product should be fully complete and inspected by a QA team before release. But still, the fuckin extreme hatred ill see for the game and its studio, regardless of the company’s history, is soooooo fuckin wild. And almost everytime when I get to the point of buying the game, ill check the steam reviews and it’ll be mostly positive after like one patch release.

henfredemars, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

Aero the Acrobat for GBA.

Cheap Sonic ripoff? I loved that game. Spent many childhood hours and AA batteries playing it and learning every corner of every level.

Rai,

My partner LOVES that game!

Renacles, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

Dying Light 2. I honestly have no idea why so many people prefer the original.

ampersandrew, (edited ) do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

How old were you when you played Sonic Unleashed? I thoroughly played and enjoyed Sonic Adventure 2 for the Gamecube when I was in middle school, but revisiting it as an adult, it was so hard to envision how I ever enjoyed the way that game controls. However, even though my muscle memory was totally gone, since all the levels I knew from SA2 were remixed, Sonic Generations was good even as an adult.

NONE_dc,
@NONE_dc@lemmy.world avatar

I was 10 years old when I played Unleashed. I wouldn’t even have internet back then (I’m from Latin America)

missingno, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

I have a lot of childhood nostalgia for Donkey Kong 64. If you were a kid who could only get a new game every few months or so, this giant behemoth of a game will last a long time.

But it undeniably is a bloated clusterfuck, the internet is not wrong in hindsight.

Next thing that comes to mind for me is the GBA port of Tales of Phantasia. Symphonia was a huge part of my adolescent years, and as soon as I heard this was getting a GBA remake I was all over it. Loved it, and didn't hear until much later that GBA is apparently considered the worst version of the game. If PSP ever gets translated, I'd love to see what I missed out on...

B0NK3RS,
@B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

DK64 for me too. I played the shit out of it for probably a solid 6 months to a year and loved it but it has no doubt aged badly.

nfreak,
@nfreak@lemmy.ml avatar

Honestly the collectathon genre as a whole doesn’t hold up much these days. A few modern games pull it off here and there, but going back and trying to play any of the classic Rare titles feels like a slog.

Loved all those games as a kid, and they did a ton to shape the industry, but they don’t really hold up.

Rai,

hbomberguy did a 50+ hour 101% nightmare stream for trans charity a while back and I watched the whole thing. I would not subject myself to playing that game but damn it was interesting to see.

Crankenstein,

Bro what people didn’t like DK64? I spent a large chunk of my childhood getting 100% in that game. Lanky Kong was my boy.

JackbyDev,

I wonder if a fan mod of DK64 where the bananas aren’t colored would fix many of the problems. I feel like that one small change might fix a lot of complaints. I haven’t played it though.

Denjin,

There’s a ROM hack that let’s you swap characters with a button press rather than trek through the level to find a swap barrel and then trek back again, and do that again and again for coins, bananas, etc.

Small change that has a big impact on the replayability.

www.romhacking.net/hacks/4961/

De_Narm, (edited ) do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

People only ever talk about Final Fantasy Tactics and dismiss any of the other games. However, going by the original release, Tactics Advance is by far my favorite. It’s my favorite GBA game and at least in my Top 25 JRPGs, despite having played almost nothing else for the past 20 years. I like many of the things the game gets criticized for.

Endymion_Mallorn,
@Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Marche and the general lesson of FFTA are great, to me. I love the strategic map mechanics. And honestly, I think the Laws (except in the cases where they're intended to be screwy) are neat additions that make you have to think.

frank,

I loved FFTA and have replayed it multiple times. I’ve played FFTA2 some as well, which was definitely not as good.

I thought A was much better than the original. I didn’t even know it was “not good”

De_Narm,

Usually, whenever people talk about A, you get a few of the following arguments:

  • The story is bad/too childish
  • Laws/Judges are overall a terrible mechanic
  • Learning skills from equipment is bad
  • SRPGs need permadeath
  • Send missions are bad and just there to promote the game with having 300 missions

Of course, I disagree with all of these. Actually, these are some of my favorite things about this game.

frank,

Yeah I don’t see those are negative honestly. The send missions inflated the numbers and I don’t love that you can get locked out of stuff easily but it’s totally fine

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Bruh, FFTA is a great game and I will hear no slander of it.

ryven,
@ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

This is the one where we bully our little brother into going back to the world where he can’t walk, right? :P

pinball_wizard,

That’s the one! We can also bully him with snowballs in the opening scene, if we want to.

datavoid,

Probably my favourite gameboy game across all generations

joenforcer,

FFTA is great if you never played FFT. If you did, however, it is a cheap imitation that turns it into “baby’s first SRPG”.

FFTA2 did a better job, but those of us that started with FFT were highly disappointed with FFTA as a “sequel”.

De_Narm,

Funnily enough, I really didn’t like FFT. The only thing I could get behind was the story. However, I’m planning on giving the remaster another shot.

match,
@match@pawb.social avatar

FFTA is great but a hidden gem, I don’t think it counts. It’s weird though because I have never met anyone who has played all lf FFT, FFTA, and FFTA2, but I know a lot of people who love either FFT or FFTA

De_Narm,

I’ve played them all! Although, I haven’t finished all of them. I’m planning on fixing that with the FFT remaster, however, I had to drop the original release.

Personally, it goes FFTA > FFTA2 > FFT. I don’t think I’ve ever met someone who likes FFTA2 the most.

Lembot_0003, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

Might & Magic VIII. The ending was underwhelming in comparison to previous parts, yes, but gameplay is exactly the same.

Endymion_Mallorn,
@Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org avatar

If I'm honest, Enroth is inferior to Xeen.

Lembot_0003,

I wasn’t a fan of M&M before 6. Free movement was a huge step forward for this game…

Endymion_Mallorn,
@Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Ah, I see. Let's just say that we'll have to agree to disagree. I dislike nearly all 3D games with free movement - I've never been able to tolerate TES, for instance. Give me tile-based movement any day.

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

Xeen was what I thought of our first “proper” game. So many good memories. I played it like it’s real time, spamming the attack button without any strategy.

Still play it every so often. And thanks to ScummVM I could play it on a toaster if I wanted to.

Trail,

Come on, M&M8 was as awesome as the rest of them.

flamingos, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

Fallout 3. The criticism is absolutely fair*, but it was the first RPG I ever played and I’m still very fond of it.

  • I never got the ‘metros are hard to navigate’ criticism, I never had that issues. Most of them are pretty linear.
LucasWaffyWaf,

A lot of the metros look copy and pasted; whole hallways, rooms, so it gets a little confusing.

flamingos,

Oh for sure, Fallout 3 Geoguesser would be hard. Idk, I just never had a problem navigating them, even if they were a bit samey.

TheHotze,

To be fair, Fallout 3 is a bit more of a mixed bag of good and bad features.

catalyst,
@catalyst@lemmy.world avatar

Guess that’s me too. I loved Fallout 3 and wasn’t really aware of a lot of hate for it.

criss_cross,

Fallout 3 for me works well as a sandbox and less as a narrative driven RPG. I had a lot of fun with it but I know if you went in expecting it to be something it’s not (like the first 2 fallout games) you’re gonna be disappointed.

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

I loved FO3. And coming from Bethesda, I was expecting a sandbox.

Actually, do people hate FO3? I thought it was well liked, even amongst New Vegas fanatics.

Paranomaly,
@Paranomaly@sh.itjust.works avatar

It got a lot of backwards hate when 76 came out and it was suddenly really trendy to hate Bethesda. This is not to say that lots of people changed their mind on the game, though I’m sure some did, more that people who didn’t like the game got more confident to speak up about disliking it. This is also around the same time the New Vegas became a huge darling in popular opinion.

sp3ctr4l,

So, I’m an ardent ‘New Vegas is the best 3D Fallout game’ person.

But… Fallout 3 is not a bad game.

It is fun, it is enjoyable. It has solid game mechanics, it has a good number of well written characters and questlines, it is fun to just explore and find crazy shit.

It has flaws, yes.

But it is far from bad.

It just isn’t as good as New Vegas, which imo, basically just did everything FO3 did, but better, had a better overall storyline, refined and improved on all the gameplay mechanics, added in new gameplay features/elements.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

i dont think new vegas had better exploration. fo3 is still pretty unmatched in that. so many unmarked gems in fo3

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

It also had some big gameplay departures from 1 & 2. I’m not talking about being an FPS (although no longer having to worry about accuracy was pretty significant) but the fact that putting on different clothing magically made you more intelligent, and that it was a lot easier to do everything.
In FO3 you can pick all the locks, hack all the computers, pass all the conversation checks, and take on hordes of enemies all by yourself. In FO1+2 you had to pick the couple of things you were good at and not be able to do the other things until your next run.

Zidane,

FO3 is my favorite Fallout (haven’t played 4 or 76 yet).

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Have you played 1, 2, or New Vegas?

Zidane,

1 & 2 I played a little bit. NV I 100% on steam a couple years ago and 360 many years ago. I did actually play 4 for about an hour. Was annoyed with how things had changed lol

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

I lived in D.C. when I played it. Between that and it being the first of its kind in the series, none of the others come remotely close for me.

Paranomaly,
@Paranomaly@sh.itjust.works avatar

Not going to lie, I like it quite a bit more than New Vegas. I understand several criticisms that people have, but 3 was by far the better experience for me.

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