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missingno, do games w What is the definitive way to play certain games?
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For Chrono Trigger, definitely don't play the original SNES localization. No disrespect to Ted Woolsey, he was one man working on an unreasonably tight deadline and hard technical limitations, but the retranslation is much better.

DrSleepless, do games w What is the definitive way to play certain games?

Whichever way is most fun

teft, do games w What is the definitive way to play certain games?

I’ve been playing BG3 with a loot randomizer. It really makes you have to think about your builds because you can’t rely on certain gear anymore. Makes it almost feel like a roguelike.

bjoern_tantau,
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Of course, if you don’t look up any builds a first playthrough of BG3 will be indistinguishable from one with a loot randomizer.

Obligatory, if you do want a roguelike BG3 you can get that with the Trials of Tav mod.

Kolanaki, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of Feb 1st
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I have recently flipped my views for Nioh and Lords of the Fallen. Plaued through LOTF two more times for the Umbral and Inferno endings I never saw and to get item descriptions I didn’t get my first play through (they tie some flavor text to having high enough stats, all in the magi schools and my first dude was an ungabunga caveman) and I started to hate the game for its infuratingly bad design decisions that were done on purpose to make things artificially difficult or obscure.

Now I am giving Nioh another shot and it’s actually clicking this time. Still a bit awkward, but taking it slower than even Dark Souls 2 makes a big difference and feels like I was just trying to rush things before. Still not a fan of how the levels are done, but I kinda get the feeling this is improved in Nioh 2 which I will try after getting through Nioh 1. I have always liked its more complex fighting system, with the stances and how casting spells is more fluid than a Fromsoft game, it was mostly the Ki recovery thing that gets annoying (Ki is stamina and you can recover it by tapping a button at the right time, but being hit reduces it and it also gets slowed by certain enemy uh… things) but that’s not really being an issue as I play currently, except in some cases where I am clearly hitting it at the right time from the SFX and visual on my dude, but not actually getting the purification thing cleaning the yokai gunk off the ground which messes with positioning (thats the stuff that slows your ki regen for those who haven’t played).

It might actually have been better to have played Wo Long before Nioh, as it has many of the same mechanics and gameplay, but more simplified by not having the Ki system since it is only after absolutely demolishing that game in under 20 hours that even had me entertain the idea of giving Nioh a second shot.

northernlights, do games w Games you really want to play, but can't or won't?

I had to stop playing No Man’s Sky, I was caught in the game play loop way too much and doing nothing else.

BurgerBaron, do games w What is the definitive way to play certain games?
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First off, here’s a big list of unofficial ports:

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_unofficial_ports

Dhewm 3 for Doom 3. Just updates the game engine to run better on modern hardware since id tech 4 is open source. Mod support sort of, not every mod is compatible. They helpfully list those that do here: https://dhewm3.org/mods.html

The Sims 2 High DPI patch, self explanatory: https://github.com/lah7/sims2-4k-ui-patch

VCMI - Heroes of Might and Magic 3 open source engine/game extension. Has a built in mod manager, really handy: https://vcmi.eu/

Coming soon / WIP: I’m excited to play this port of the MS-DOS game Albion when it reaches feature parity with the original:

https://github.com/csinkers/ualbion

brsrklf,

Does VCMI includes the ability to play the original campaigns with everything they had, on whatever language they were installed? It’s not clear in their FAQ.

I tried installing the original with HD mod through lutris on a PC I am converting to linux, only to discover HD mod just doesn’t support the French version of the game.

Lutris apparently passes down the system language to the installer with no option to change it. I’m sure there is a way to change the install script, but I haven’t really looked into it yet.

If there’s a way to pass down the French version in VCMI and get about the same improvements HD mod provides, and get all that to run natively, maybe I won’t have to.

BurgerBaron,
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It’s on a seperate page:

https://vcmi.eu/translators/Translations/

Edit: oh I got confused you said OG with HD mod. Well, hopefully you have better luck with VCMI.

brsrklf,

Well I was trying to run OG with HD, the original game already had a French version (it’s the one I’ve always played, even back in 2000). But I just learned that the HD mod was not directly compatible with it, though there might be workarounds. As is, it crashes as soon as I start a map.

Honestly even though I’d heard of the project before, I had competely forgotten about VCMI, so thank you for reminding me of it (very good timing too). If VCMI let me do what I am trying to do, really there’s no point messing with the OG install. I’ll try it when I can get back to it.

Coelacanth, do games w What is the definitive way to play certain games?
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Viva New Vegas for Fallout: New Vegas and the Unofficial Patch for VtM: Bloodlines are my go-to examples. Not a mod but Ninja Gaiden Black is the definitive version and much better than both Ninja Gaiden (2004) and Ninja Gaiden Sigma.

UltraGiGaGigantic, do games w Why is Valve being sued for almost $900 million, but Epic Games wasn't sued when they bought Rocket League and Fall Guys to remove them from steam?
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Im just a caveman, but wouldnt keeping the same price as steam mean the developers get more money from Epic Games Store at the same price point because of the lower fees?

Maestro, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of Feb 1st

I'm about 40 jours deep into "Star Rupture", a pretty fun factory builder / survival / tower defense game that was recently released in early access. I really like it so far.

Quetzalcutlass, (edited ) do games w What is the definitive way to play certain games?

There are a host of open source remakes of old game engines that fix bugs and update them for modern systems as well as add support for higher resolutions and widescreen aspect ratios. Here’s a few off the top of my head:

  • OpenMW for The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind. This is probably the most famous one.
  • Daggerfall Unity for The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall.
  • OpenRA for Red Alert, Tiberian Dawn, Dune 2000, and (in pre-alpha form) Tiberian Sun and Red Alert 2 (the latter requiring extra fiddling with Github repositories).
  • KeeperFX for Dungeon Keeper.
  • OpenRCT2 for Roller Coaster Tycoon 2.
  • OpenTTD for Transport Tycoon Deluxe.
  • OpenJKDF2 for Dark Forces 2 and its standalone Mysteries of the Sith expansion.
  • Arx Libertatis for Arx Fatalis, though IIRC the version sold now integrates an older build of it; one without the fixes for glyph drawing - it’s worth upgrading for that alone as spellcasting is a nightmare without the fix.
  • TRX for Tomb Raider I and II.
  • Tfix, T2Fix, and the Sneaky Upgrade for Thief 1/2/3 respectively. These are mods, not wholesale engine replacements, but serve the same purpose.

These are just the ones I know of. There are probably loads more.

Edit: the Ur-Quan Masters for Star Control II. I can’t believe I forgot about this! Star Control II is one of the best and most influential games that most people have never heard about.

Peffse,

OpenRCT2 is 100% the definitive way to play Roller Coaster Tycoon 1 & 2.

But I would never recommend a new player try OpenRA. The game has stellar multiplayer support but they just can’t figure out the campaign scripting at all. Go with the remaster collection instead.

Quetzalcutlass,

Still? I haven’t played OpenRA in several years and assumed they would have fixed it by now.

Then again Red Alert 2 is even less supported than it was the last time I checked, so I’m guessing their focus is mostly on the multiplayer side of things.

Jesus_666,

OpenXcom for the first two X-Com games (UFO: Enemy Unknown and X-Com: Terror From The Deep). This reimplementation is insanely good.

  • It fixes all known bugs of the original X-Com engine.
  • It works on modern systems, including Linux, macOS, Windows, and even Android.
  • It has support for modern resolutions and aspect ratios.
  • It allows you to use soundtracks from other versions of the game (e.g. look at the website’s “Extras” tab).
  • It has mod support including a basic mod manager. And some of those mods are damn good.
  • It runs flawlessly.

There’s really no reason to play the original DOS versions anymore.

mech,

Sounds good, but is it really still X-Com without the bugs?

Jesus_666,

I could argue that experiencing the Groundhog Day bug builds character but… no. Nobody should have to deal with that.

Admittedly, a few tactics like filling your base with laser rifles to make attacking aliens spawn unarmed no longer work. But honestly, an experienced player treats base attacks like bonus levels anyway so it’s not like much of value was lost. Besides, you also now get all the loot from big missions and not just the first 128 items.

Also, UFO now actually remembers your difficulty setting and doesn’t revert you to Beginner after the first mission. That’s different but better. I probably should’ve mentioned that separately in my first comment.

yermaw,

Aaaaand saved. Thanks!

Peffse,
wax,
bjoern_tantau,
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XWVM to play X-Wing and TIE Fighter.

DGen,
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Speaking of Dark Forces 2 and Not about the Force Engine for the first Game? :0 you barbaric! Joking.

Yeah. Force engine fornthe First Game is top notch.

Quetzalcutlass,

My bad! Every time I think about replaying Dark Forces I remember the sewer level with the dianogas and change my mind.

DGen,
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Oh god. I forgot..

Kjell,
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Really nice list. One can spend many hours on these games.

rautapekoni, do games w Games you really want to play, but can't or won't?

Escape from Tarkov. I put some time into Arc Raiders and that but as a hardcore milsim really seems like it would be a nice experience. I won’t, however, give one penny of my money to Russia if I can help it.

Wildcat16, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of Feb 1st

I’ve been playing Genshin Impact, it’s been awhile since I’ve played so I still need to finish the last archon quests for Nodkrai. I did manage to get Columbina which I was really excited about. I also need to get back on to start lantern rite before it goes away and leaves.

neon_nova, do games w What is the definitive way to play certain games?

I have been thinking of whether there was a pokemon mod that does something like this.

I’d like something that gets rid of trade evolutions and puts all 151 in a single game.

I’m sure it’s out there. So, I guess that’s my half assed attempt at an answer.

fyrilsol,

There's probably romhacks out there that do that.

UntimedDiffusion,

A modder named Drayano has pretty much defined this category of ROM hack and I think has his own version of every major game from generations 3-6

Odo,

There’s one called simply Pokemon Blue - 151.

smeg,

Have a search for “universal pokémon randomiser” (there are apparently loads of different forks of it now), it’s main feature is to randomise which pokémon you encounter, their types, moves, etc, but you could skip that and just set “change trade evolutions” and “catch em all mode” to get exactly what you want. I would recommend playing it randomised though!

paultimate14,

I swear every time I start looking into a romhack that claims to just be a mostly vanilla QoL update they always add in a bunch of random stuff to “fix” the difficulty.

Like, yes I am aware the games are incredibly easy. They’re for children. I originally played most of them as children. Just let me get high and stomp all through FRLG with a perfect-IV Feraligatr and the Gen 4 physical-special split. If I wanted to do Nuzzlockes I would… Do Nuzzlockes. If I wanted a game with difficult gym leaders and level caps, I would go play one of the thousands of romhacks that have that.

Marafon, do games w What is the definitive way to play certain games?

Fallout Fixt for anyone wanting to dive into the OG fallout.

Asparagus0098,

I’d like to add a bit to this.

FALLOUT ET TU (Fallout 1in2) - Fallout 1 converted to Fallout 2 engine

Fallout 2 Restoration Project, updated - Bug fixes, QoL and more for Fallout 2

Fallout 2 Unofficial Patch, updated - Bug fixes only

paper_moon, do games w What is the definitive way to play certain games?

Huh, haven’t heard of Bezelbub mod, I’ll have to check if its compatible with DevilutionX the open source reimplementation of Diablo 1. I played DevilutionX on my steamdeck, but got stuck in beginning of nightmare as my character wasn’t powerful enough to continue.

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