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Coelacanth, do gaming w Looking for a "classic" RPG with solid plot (Steam Deck)
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Games that I really enjoyed:

  • Final Fantasy 7 through 10
  • Final Fantasy 5

So… did you skip FF VI or did you specifically not like it?

pathief,
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I played it recently-ish but didn’t enjoy it. There are a lot of characters and the story is constantly moving between them. I didn’t enjoy that.

Coelacanth, (edited )
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Interesting, it’s my absolute favourite personally. I don’t hear many people dislike it.

On the subject of pixel art retro styled RPGs though I want to make a case for https://store.steampowered.com/app/1069160/SKALD_Against_the_Black_Priory/. It doesn’t have voice acting, but otherwise should satisfy your demands given you say you tolerate pixel art. It’s very short for an RPG (16-20h) but that also means it’s very concise, has no filler and no grinding. Should play well on a Steam Deck too. I played it back in January I think and had an absolute blast with it. Cool story and world building, fun somewhat simple combat. Very enjoyable.

EDIT: though there is some dice rolling in dialogue, so maybe that’s a no go.

pathief,
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I don’t hear many people dislike it.

I know it’s a totally unpopular opinion, I know FF6 is often rated as the best one of the series. Just didn’t click for me.

I’ll check out ot Skald, thanks!

nesc, do gaming w Looking for a "classic" RPG with solid plot (Steam Deck)

Don’t know if by dnd mechanics you mean any games inspired by tabletop rpgs or not and most of the gamesin your list being jrpgs. Age of Decadence is one of my favorite with interesting setting, Serpent in the Staglands is another one. Not exactly a rpg but interesting no truce with the furries Disco Elysium.

originalucifer, do gaming w Looking for a "classic" RPG with solid plot (Steam Deck)
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one of my all-time favs is an ancient one.. phantasy star II. you'll need the sega thing on steam to run it...

the story is good, graphics are very stardew valley.

the only negative aspect from your list is some minor grinding and the randomness of bumping into creatures.

pathief,
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I was definitely looking for something less ancient xD Solid suggestion, regardless.

ICastFist,
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Phantasy Star 4 is also very good and worth checking out, if you’re going back to the early 90s

originalucifer,
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i will check it out! i was not impressed with PS3 back in the day... too scripted.

ICastFist,
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Yeah, it seems the general consensus is to skip 3. I wonder how the 2000 era Phantasy Star games fare (not counting PSO)

fulg, do gaming w Looking for a "classic" RPG with solid plot (Steam Deck)

Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 is probably one of the best games I played, it has RPG elements and the turn-based combat system is unique and satisfying. But this is not a game that will bring you joy, the atmosphere is bleak and it is a dark story.

In fact it kind of ruined RPGs for the moment at least, I played Metaphor:ReFantazio right after and the stakes just did not feel serious enough even 10 hours in.

pathief,
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Clair Obscur: Expedition 33

Definitely on my wishlist, the only reason I haven’t bought it is because I read the Steam Deck experience is very bad. I can always stream it from my desktop though.

fulg,

In that case: on a completely different spectrum, Sea of Stars is an absolute masterpiece, taking liberal inspiration from the good old days of SNES JRPGs.

…and that should run just fine on SteamDeck!

pathief,
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It’s on my wishlist now, definitely going to check it out. Have you tried the multiplayer aspect of the game? Might be fun to couch co-op.

fulg,

I’ve not had the chance to try it, I also hear it’s quite good.

Cheers!

Dremor,
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I played it on the Deck. I have to agree that there are rough edges (some ambient color go from A to B with no transition, and some zone have a really strange colorimetry compared to a more powerful device). But it is entirely playable.

zero, do games w What are the best free mmorpgs for a beginner?
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I played Albion for a bit, it's quite fun and its free to play. I just started WoW Classic a couple of weeks back and I have never played it before, not too difficult and like some have said its free until level 20.

Malix, do games w Day 371 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing
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ah, Runescape. The version I played aaaages ago is apparently now called “Classic”. The only thing I (barely) remember from those times are my massive piles of Kebab -items in my inventory, they were dirt cheap as healing items, but they did have a chance of dealing damage when eaten, instead of healing. :D

slazer2au, do games w Day 371 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

I’ve been self hosting a 2009scape server recently so it has been fun to replay it.

It doesn’t have all the content from osrs but is lets me play members without have to pay or deal with online dickheads.

warm,

What dickheads are there in osrs? Unless you seek it out yourself? Everyone is just going about their business.

MyNameIsAtticus,
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I’ve thought about looking into my own server but with how off and on again with RuneScape I just stay f2p

Lazycog, do games w Day 371 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing

I have to say I really loved RuneScape quests. Some of the quests are incredibly humorous and really clever.

The quest about neighbourhood wizard robbing a bank and the accompanying “security cam footage” of him “pwning noob players” during robbery but denying everything has stuck with me as a core memory.

MyNameIsAtticus,
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I love how casual it is. A lot of MMOs I feel like are very heavy fantasy, but RuneScape just goes wild which I love

Lazycog,

That is so true! And there (atleast when I played) wasn’t much group content so you never had to stress about that either (unlike in other mmos)

MyNameIsAtticus,
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The minimal group content is very much appreciated lol. I know it kind of goes against the point but i don’t like really doing group stuff

Lazycog,

Same, mostly because it’s not relaxing anymore and you need to manage time as well. I can’t always commit so much time unfortunately and we all know how toxic some MMO players can be! (not always but yeah)

MyNameIsAtticus, do games w What are the best free mmorpgs for a beginner?
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Old School Runescape i’ve had a decent bit of fun with and i’d recommend it. It takes a lot of reading, but there’s a free option for you to try if you’re unsure and it runs on damn near anything. Granted i’m not the target audience for MMOs. I usually hop in and dick around a little bit then pop out

Rakonat, do games w Does anyone else find it suspicious that there wasn't any criticism on here about Stop Killing Games until after it hit 1.4M signatures?

There’s always been criticism but until now it’s been low level insiders and nobodies like pirate software. And the reasons the publishers and big names that would be affected did SKGs didn’t say or do anything until now because they didn’t want to give it any oxygen. They were smart enough to ignore it because they knew if they said anything it’d rile up a shift storm. Which is exactly what Pirate Software did so he’s probably got a lot of people on both sides pissed at him for being too narcissistic to shut up and let the movement die.

Now that it has enough signatures to be taken seriously you’re going to see the fire hoses open up and a lot of misinformation spread about how the movement would make the gaming industry unviable for the current model. Now is the point where if you are an EU citizen that you write and call your representatives who would consider this issue and help write the law if it did pass on how important it would be to you personally to not allow game companies to revoke your ability to utilize a game you paid for.

Genius,

pissed at him for being too narcissistic to shut up and let the movement die.

You’ve got a typo there. What you meant to write was “pissed at him for struggling with managing the symptoms from his narcissistic personality disorder diagnosis too much to shut up and let the movement die.”

el_abuelo,

Excuse the ignorance, what’s the difference?

Genius,

Putting the focus on the personal struggle of managing the symptoms is more empathetic, and using the full name of the diagnosis instead of contracted nouns helps avoid using slurs and/or dehumanising the patent.

prole,

Narcissists are literally destroying our planet and our way of life, but let’s make sure we don’t offend anyone when we mention them.

Genius,

Your comment has a typo. You meant to write “human beings who developed narcissistic personality disorder due to childhood trauma and now struggle with identity and empathy to the detriment of their own wellbeing as described in the DSM 5 are literally destroying our planet and our way of life”

yermaw,

I cant tell what youre doing

Genius,

Assuming good intentions from others, fully aware that doing so turns their messages into nonsense.

otp,

Your username has a typo

Feathercrown,

Fucking lmao

Smoogs,

Oh go Piss off, Elon

Genius,

You’re saying Elon Musk is an ally to disabled people?? Are you part of the Nazi cult?

Dremor,
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and using the full name of the diagnosis instead of contracted nouns helps avoid using slurs and/or dehumanising the patent.

You’ve got a typo there. Unless you can prove that said person was indeed diagnosed with such disability by an appropriate medical authority, let’s not use such term that could either be considered defamation, or at least medical disinformation. (/i)

People say what they intend to say, not what you wish them to. If you believe they are incorrect, no need to be pedantic about it. Just argue why, you’d find out people are way more open to arguments when they do not feel like you are condidering them as idiots.

Genius,

I don’t think he has NPD at all, I think Rakonat is mistaken to randomly accuse him of mental illness just because they don’t like him.

ChairmanMeow,
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Does he actually have a diagnosis or are you making that up or assuming things?

Genius,

He probably doesn’t, and Rakonat shouldn’t have assumed

Feathercrown,

You know hes using a figure of speech right? Are you protesting the usage of narcissism as an unofficial negative descriptor?

Genius,

Yes. Just like “retard” and “gay”.

tomi000,

While I am against using illnesses as slurs, I am 99% sure Elon Musk has NPD even if was never officially diagnosed, which he would avoid for obvious reasons. So I wouldnt count this instance as using an illness as a slur.

Genius,

If he does have NPD, then we’re back to the issue that the general population needs to start referring to mental disorders with respectful and empathetic language, because this creates a culture of tolerance that will be visible to other people with the disorder.

Skankboot,

You know that someone can act like something without being that thing right? You can say someone is narcissistic without them being an actual narcissist.

Like me saying that you’re stupid shouldn’t imply that you’ve had a traumatic brain injury or were born without a frontal lobe.

Genius,

That’s a false equivalence. “Stupid” isn’t the same as any of the words in the diagnosis “mental retardation” (recently updated to intellectual disability). Your example would work better if you did it like this:

Like me saying that you’re retarded shouldn’t imply that you have mental retardation.

There, that’s a much closer analogy. Do you still stand by your point if we use a proper equivalence?

Feathercrown,

Are you trying to roleplay as your username?

abbotsbury, do games w Does anyone else find it suspicious that there wasn't any criticism on here about Stop Killing Games until after it hit 1.4M signatures?
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No, there was definitely some criticism before. Prior to this month, it wouldn’t be unusual to hear people complain about how it would destroy the live service market and was therefore Bad Actually for games and game preservation

The topic getting much more mainstream just brought all those people with.

rumba,

There are a handful of concerns from insiders are that somewhat valid, more or less things to be careful about when trying to sort out how to make this fair and reasonable to both sides.

You can ponder how long from shutdown of an online server until the companies IP is no longer worth anything because they have to give up keys to playing it without subs. Same goes for anti-piracy. If A goes under and is bought up by B, how long is that timer before the assets aren’t worth anything anymore.

But all those concepts get thrown the hell out the window when CEOS stick their fingers in their ears and start stamping their feet and shouting “nothing is written in stone” “at some point the service may be discontinued” “Nothing is eternal” when in fact all those problems can be solved. Fucking tone-deaf asshats. Costs you money, sorry nothing is eternal. Costs them money, ohhh noooo can’t do that it might cost money.

When you launch a title with online requirements, you have to escrow or insure the servers for X months and escrow code. When you sell or fold, you then have X months to work out a new buyer or maintainer. At the end of X months. you either keep the game online through other means (sales) or provide server binaries, serverless binaries, or details/code to keep the game running indefinitely.

Zwrt,

The implication that “games as a service” is somehow a positive for game preservation is its own kind of illiteracy.

abbotsbury,
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It makes sense if you are completely consumer-brained and only see it as “companies will make less (live service) games if they are forced to support them/let them be community supported”

pugnaciousfarter,

Isn’t that a win win tho? Less live service games?

The industry is already horrible to work in.

abbotsbury,
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No, remember, it only makes sense if you are consumer-brained

Less live service games = less consooming. Some people literally don’t care about things that are in their best interest, they will happily pay $120 for a game that has pay2win microtransactions and requires a monthly subscription and will also shutdown after 18 months, as long as there is a new one to buy after it.

pugnaciousfarter,

Well with the support that’s come from mainstream gaming influencers, I hope the opinion has swayed in the opposite direction.

mojofrododojo,
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so far the only legit critique I’ve seen is the uncertainty of what this will mean to indie devs - will they be forced to sign with publishers who can assist with compliance etc., what will compliance actually look like to small shops, etc.

I will say this: the vast majority of game devs feel the same way and want to be able to play the games we paid for as well. there’s just a bit of fear of the unknown for small devs.

sp3ctr4l, (edited ) do games w Does anyone else find it suspicious that there wasn't any criticism on here about Stop Killing Games until after it hit 1.4M signatures?

Maybe not specifically this comm, but I had been sporadically arguing with people on various places on lemmy about SKG before Ross even dropped his ‘SKG is probably dead’ video that (re)ignited this whole thing.

A whole, whole lot of people I talked to basically had the same talking points Thor initially did, a lot of them were dedicated to various facts that were simply wrong, rhetoric that was either bipolar/hypocritical, or just ultimately nihlist (nothing can be done).

I was actually very relieved, initially, when Ross made above mentioned video, simply so I would no longer have to keep explaining all the various intricacies… Ross had addresed all this stuff before, but you’d have to watch about 2 or 3 hours of videos to truly get it, in all its detail.

The ‘SKG is probably dead’ video did a good job of doing both a broad overview, as well as going into detail with the more common, in-depth misunderstandings… which were pretty much all popularized by Thor.

Simulation6, do games w What are the best free mmorpgs for a beginner?

I did search and found this article listing 16 to consider.

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