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mostNONheinous, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

MAD MAX from 2015, while not tied directly to the new movies it scratches an itch I haven’t found in any other game. It’s dark and bleak and brutal. The combat on foot and behind the wheel are both incredible. Nothing quite like being in the middle of ripping a convoy 7 new assholes and being hit with a dust storm. It can be repetitive if you want to complete everything but BY THE GODS OF VALHALLA is it a fucking blast.

SnotFlickerman, (edited )
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It actually is directly tied to the movies. The character who first gives Furiosa a chassis to build from isn’t quite as hunchbacked as in the game but he is credited as “Chumbucket!”

mostNONheinous,

No shit that’s awesome!

simple, do games w What are some good cooperative shooters? Hidden gems?

Remnant: From the Ashes gets my vote. It’s a superb co-op shooter despite getting somewhat repetitive near the end. There’s also a sequel that seems to be well liked but I never got around to playing it.

goodeye8,

If you enjoyed Remnant then it's definitely worth picking up Remnant 2. Remnant 2 improves on everything that was great about Remnant.

KoboldCoterie,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

Can you elaborate? Specifically because almost all of the negative Steam reviews, of which there are many, say more or less the opposite - that it tries to do that, but fails to capture what made Remnant so good.

(Not to criticize your opinion, to be clear; it’s on sale and I was strongly considering it as someone who likes Remnant. Sell it for me?)

goodeye8,

Are you sure it's all negative? Because on my steam the base game is "Mostly positive". The DLCs are "Mixed" and outside of the The awakened king I can't say much about the DLCs.

As for my short review. I'm not sure what those people think Remnant 1 was about but for me it was unique worlds, unique builds and unique enemies. Those things together give you an unique gameplay experience and Remnant 2 expands on all of those things.

The aesthetic was excellent in Remnant and Remnant 2 continues that by making those worlds even more detailed. There were multiple times where I just looked in awe at what the artists had concocted together. The only time where I felt the artistic vision wearing thin was literally the end of the game. I have vivid memories of all the worlds that are available in adventure mode, the final area ended up being unremarkable compared to everything that had come before it.

The builds in Remnant were pretty unique but I personally felt like the game didn't give you enough tools early game to mid game to really build something out. You had guns, armor, trinkets, traits and mods but it all felt kinda constrained. Remnant 2 expands that by additionally giving you class archetypes, weapon mutators and you can modify the relic (the heart thingy that heals you in Remnant 1) and add relic fragments. All all those things individually are also expanded. Compared to the first game you're going to get more guns, more armors, more rings, more amulets, just more of everything necessary to make a build.

The enemies in Remnant were great, an excellent mix of small enemies, minibosses and big bosses. Remnant 2 expands all of them with an even greater mix of small enemies, minibosses and big bosses. I'm not going to spoil any bosses but I definitely found them fun and memorable. The final boss is the only exception that comes to mind as I remember that being a frustrating fight.

The only objectively negative thing I can say about Remnant 2 was the performance. I don't know if they've released some patches for it, but when I played around the launch of the awakened king it was borderline unplayable without upscaling.

KoboldCoterie,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

I didn’t say that the overall review is ‘mostly negative’, to be clear; I said that almost all of the (many) negative reviews that exist seem to be talking about the failure to live up to remnant 1.

Thanks for the detailed review; it’s helpful to have a nice comparison between the two. I did enjoy Remnant 1 quite a bit. Would you say the DLC you played is worth buying even considering the generally mixed reviews?

goodeye8,

It's pretty much just an expansion to the first world and expanded the lore of that world. I thought the first world was also the most interesting so I definitely enjoyed it. I didn't try out the new archetype but it looked interesting. I think it's definitely worth picking up on sale.

Broken,

Just to chime in, I’m in agreement with goodeye8. I liked R1 but R2 is fleshed out a lot more. Its a lot more fun and engaging.

I found that in R2 I played and replayed every area to get the variations and fight different bosses or defeat them in diffdrent manners I didnt do everything 100% but I did most of everything. In R1 I think I only went back to defeat one boss in an alternate manner. I know that’s not really a measurable way to give feedback, but it’s my anecdotal way of saying its a better game.

jjjalljs,

I found the solo play of both Remnant games really unsatisfying. Slow pacing, uninteresting enemies. Is it much better with friends?

simple,

I haven’t played much of singleplayer but I did find it engaging with friends, especially the bosses.

setsneedtofeed, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?
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objective

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SoftestSapphic, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?
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ENA: Dream BBQ

llamapocalypse, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

Bastion, Hades, Disco Elysium, Planescape: Torment, and Tyranny (even if the last act is rushed in the last two) come to mind for me

Gerudo,

Bastion is amazing.

PushButton, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

Antichamber

and maybe Portal

InfiniteHench, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?
@InfiniteHench@lemmy.world avatar
  • Bloodborne
  • Bioshock
  • Hollow Knight
Case, do gaming w That fucking helicopter level

NES Adams Family game.

My cousins had it, so I couldn’t try later.

The freezer level.

I suck at platformers, always have, but the slippery change to traction fucked me over hard and I could not adapt.

Then their dog got out and that crisis took over.

Rhynoplaz, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

I don’t see Goldeneye on your list.

charonn0, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?
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Left4Dead2 (also L4D1)

hank_the_tank66,

EXCEPT…for when your computer teammate jumps in front of you while you’re shooting and accosts you for it, then a second later they literally mow down a bunch of infected by shooting through you with no consequences.

So I have to knock it down to a 9.9/10

dumblederp, do games w What are some good cooperative shooters? Hidden gems?
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Killing floor 1/2, fps zombie horde killing.

Another doot for Remnant, really enjoyed the odd universe and two player coop.

Battlefront 2 multi player for mindless star wars pew pew fun.

thermal_shock,

You recommended killing floor before L4D2? Interesting.

dumblederp,
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Hasn’t someone already suggested L4D2? I only played the first and was pretty offended when they promptly released the second and expected me to pay for it. They did eventually turn around and give it away but IIRC it was under a year from release and they expected me to buy a whole other game.

unit327,

I was a bit cheesed too, but it’s been umpteen billion years since then and you can grab l4d2 for about $2. It’s time to let go.

pdqcp, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

Braid. Surprised that it wasn’t mentioned yet

magnetosphere, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?
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We’re including mobile games too, right?

Monument Valley

Metostopholes, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?
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Shadow of the Colossus

ytsedude,

We actually got two masterpieces out of this one title. The remake was an absolute perfect remake.

wildncrazyguy138, (edited ) do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

S tier

  • Lufia
  • Dragon Warrior 3
  • Final Fantasy 3 & 7
  • Sonic Adventure
  • The Guardian Legend
  • Ecco the Dolphin
  • Silent Hill
  • Mario Kart
  • Dark Cloud 2
  • Chronotrigger
  • Zelda: A link to the past
  • Submachine (flash)

A tier

  • Oddworld, Abe’s Odyssey
  • Resident Evil: codename Veronica
  • Banjo Kazooie
  • Mario RPG
  • Donkey Kong Country
  • Earthworm Jim
  • Battletoads
  • Wizards and Warriors 2
  • Megaman 2
  • Populous
  • One Chance (flash)
  • Daymare Town (flash)
  • Abadox - hardest game I ever beat

B tier

  • The Lion King
  • Overlord
  • Oregon Trail
  • Dinopark Tycoon
  • Snowboard Kids
  • South Park
  • Kid Icarus
  • Sweet Home
  • Monster Party
  • Dr Mario
  • Abobo’s Big Adventure (flash)
  • Alice is Dead Ep 1 (flash)
  • Starfox
  • Shadowgate
cattywampas,

Unironically Banjo-Kazooie though

Lost_My_Mind,

Ok. You leave questions on the board. You list Mario Party…but which one?

And you list Mario Kart…BUT WHICH ONE???

Careful. These questions have obviously right, and obviously wrong answers. This is the kind of serious business that could get you SHOT!

wildncrazyguy138,

Going with the OG - Super Mario Kart. 64 is close though.

Monster Party - if you haven’t played it, it’s a trip.

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