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ombremad, do games w What is the next "grown up game" now that Minecraft only goes for children?

I get Minecraft probably played a huge role in your life, and that would explain why you feel so disappointed with it. I don’t think it’s as bad as you described it, and I don’t think it’s leaning towards children more than before, but you’re talking from a place of nostalgia and I kinda understand that.

I don’t know how long you’ve been playing it but… maybe you’ve just… outgrown the game? Or got tired of it. You’re talking about when Minecraft came out… that was 13 years ago. It’s really hard to not lose interest in a game (any game, really) after so much time. Not to mention… you got older, too, and your tastes evolved.

I can’t really recommend you another game from your post (your question is way too broad, just play whatever, you don’t have to stick to one single game). But maybe you should consider that Minecraft is fine, that you spent maybe too much time with it, that it’s time to move on, and to be at peace with it.

haui_lemmy,

Thanks for elaborating. I can see your point.

What I‘m somewhat weary of is the idea that there is a „way of doing things“ for a lot of folks. That way is not for everyone. playing a particular game over a long time (among others) isn’t unhealthy or wrong. Also, just because the gaming industry forces marketing down our throats doesnt mean a game needs to change or we need to be ok with it.

Think chess. How did it change in the past 10 years, or 20?

My point is not nostalgia but I miss a neurological bias called the framing effect. This makes me see things a lot different than a lot of folks. And from that pov, a great game changing and focusing on something else than it has in the past in my mind is perfectly reasonable.

I do get that people are upset with how I phrased it. I was frustrated and needed to talk about it. People didnt like that and I understand it.

ombremad,

Yeah I get it too, and I understand there’s nothing wrong with playing the same game for a long time. But a lot of people will get tired of the same game after 10 years. Even chess, not everyone dedicates a lifetime to it.

Nostalgia can be very strong when you have a very strong connection with a game. I miss the times when I ate pizza with my friends and played Rock Band together all night long. I could still play Rock Band, but it’s not the same anymore. What I miss is that point in time, the context, the friends who’re not there anymore. The game hasn’t changed. I did, and my life did.

haui_lemmy,

I agree. Rockband hasnt changed. But minecraft has.

Had to explain this special situation with minecraft to my wife today and she gets it since she knows me for many years: I loved the challenge, the obscurity and being forced to learn new things without a lot of help.

If minecraft were catered for people like me, we‘d not have camels and allays but vastly extended redstone, new and complicated crafting recipes and definitely no recipe book.

People keep saying „dont use it“ or „use mods“ but thats a lazy answer imo. Obviously, thats giving me the responsibility to fix a game i used to love.

AnonTwo, do games w What is the next "grown up game" now that Minecraft only goes for children?

I don't recall it ever being considered a grown up game though. Even when Minecraft first came out most of the people I played with was more interested in playing WoW. I think League of Legends was around that time too.

edit: yeah 2009 was mid wrath of lich king, cataclysm didn't come out until 2010. So that was way too huge a year for WoW to not be pulling most of the older players.

haui_lemmy,

The main reason I stumbled across minecraft was the fact that I had stopped playing games mostly at that point and only played console if at all. When minecraft started, I read about it in a tech magazine and had bought a new computer recently for writing resumes I think. Thats why I wasnt caught up by wow I think.

RainfallSonata, do games w What is the next "grown up game" now that Minecraft only goes for children?

ITT: So many corporate apologists.

haui_lemmy,

More like „someone said bad thing about minecraft! Get 'im!“

Still reading through hatemail but so far not one with an „I have a different opinion, here is it.“ am I frustrated? Absolutely. Is it ok to dogpile on me? Yes, if you’re an antisocial jerk.

RainfallSonata, (edited )

My adult son grew up on Minecraft. I think he was about seven when he started playing. By the time he was in middle school he was building working computers in it. He ran his own servers and met all his current friends there, from England and France and other US states. They don’t play it anymore.

I’ve only played a couple times myself, but I still follow the Minecraft account on Facebook, because it was something he was interested in, and because my job is tangential to children. Even I can see how much it’s moved toward Roblox and away from the creative sandbox it used to be.

I don’t think it was ever a game for adults OR for children, but I definitely think they’re making it for children now.

haui_lemmy,

I‘m very glad at least someone can see what I‘m talking about.

In any case, thanks for the positive and elaborate reply. My experience with minecraft has been very good as well, meeting a lot of cool folks. But yes, most people grow out of it over time.

pantyhosewimp, do gaming w What difficult games/game challenges did you give up on?

Like every arcade game as a kid: Defender, Xevious, Galaga, Berzerk, Battle Zone, Asteroids, the Dark Knight pinball machine. My 10 year old self had no idea these games were supposed to be infinite/unbeatable. Or rather, I always assumed they were. I had no clue they could crash if you were super expert at them. I think Xevious actually had an end tho.

As for arcade games a casual could finish but I gave up on? A decade later, Virtua Fighter.

Kit, do games w What is the next "grown up game" now that Minecraft only goes for children?

Life is too short to worry about what people think. If you like the game, play it! That being said, Valheim has an older player base and scratches the same itch.

ExpectedWall, do games w Best ergonomic/vertical mouse for FPS gaming?

MX user here, imo the MX is to bulk for constant FPS. Feels like your throwing a rock around. I preferred the size and weight of the amazon cheapy especially considering how much the MX cost. It’s a nice mouse just not a great gaming mouse for long sessions again just my opinion

INeedMana, do games w What is the next "grown up game" now that Minecraft only goes for children?
@INeedMana@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe Satisfactory? Or Factorio?

haui_lemmy,

I have both and sunk about 300 hours into each. Very cool games. Thanks for mentioning them.

INeedMana,
@INeedMana@lemmy.world avatar

Ah, so survival base building is a good lead. I’m not into this genre but I’ve heard about these (in order as they came to my mind):

trigonated,

Quite irresponsible of you to just recommend those games like that without any sort of warning :P

Kit, do gaming w With Nintendo Switch Online having emulators like gba and 64 etc. Would you play those versions or would you continue to emulate those games on another device?

Until I can play ZOoTR on my Switch, Steam Deck it is.

DmMacniel, do gaming w With Nintendo Switch Online having emulators like gba and 64 etc. Would you play those versions or would you continue to emulate those games on another device?

Problem would be, that the Games you get via NSO are only available as long as you pay the subscription while on other devices the ROMs (or Virtual Console Titles) you put there stay and be accessible.

So yeah, I play my gba, n64, … via other devices or even physical.

TwilightVulpine,

And who knows what will happen when the next console comes out and the Switch heads to obsolescence...

mcforest,

I’m pretty sure we do know

Shawdow194, do games w What is the next "grown up game" now that Minecraft only goes for children?
@Shawdow194@kbin.social avatar

Check out 'Rimworld'

I've sunk many hours into the game. It rarely goes on discount but I and many other players have found the price tag pays for the hours of content it provides many times over

P.S I find the newer caves to be much more challenging and certainly more interesting than the old caves. Plus you can just not use the recipe book and play on hard or hardcore mode

haui_lemmy,

I actually own rimworld and multiple dlcs. Ive sunk 300+ hrs in there as well. Its awesome, no doubt. I raided a hole planet once which was fun. Good suggestion though. :)

hstde, do games w What is the next "grown up game" now that Minecraft only goes for children?

If you still like Minecraft, you can go back to a version you are interested in. Many people are still playing beta 1.7.3. Maybe try the “Better than adventure” mod.

Also have a look at vintage story.

haui_lemmy,

Thats an awesome idea! I might do this. Thanks.

ThemboMcBembo, do gaming w What are some good games that have a bad reputation due to unreasonable expectations?
@ThemboMcBembo@beehaw.org avatar

Definitely No Man’s Sky

It was bad at launch, sure, but the expectations of the game were way outta proportion to what a game could deliver on

Navarian,

The problem I had with no man’s sky is that a large amount of the out of proportion expectations were a direct result of the developers over promising, rather than consumers just being over hyped.

Sir_Fridge, do games w Best ergonomic/vertical mouse for FPS gaming?

I use an MX and I have arthritis. It’s one of the few mice I can use for a long time without my hands hurting.

Also play borderlands, get weapon that shoots as fast as you can pull the trigger, set fire to scroll wheel and blast your way through hordes of enemies with free scroll lol.

cloudless,
@cloudless@feddit.uk avatar

I would highly recommend the Logitech Ergo trackball for non gaming use.

lupec, do gaming w With Nintendo Switch Online having emulators like gba and 64 etc. Would you play those versions or would you continue to emulate those games on another device?

The way companies try and upsell retro games rarely ever wins me over, so I just stick to emulation on my Deck, whatever pocketable emulation device I own at the moment and PC 99% of the time. I’m a technical user and I have no qualms with pirating unrealistically priced or hard to access content, so the barrier of entry is basically zero to me. The only collections and such that catch my eye are the ones with additional QoL features, good supplementary material, stuff like that. I don’t even mean basic features like filters, scaling options, save states or rewinding, RetroArch probably does it better anyway, I mean things I wouldn’t be able to get otherwise like added difficulty settings or expanded content.

The perfect examples of what I’m looking for are things like Atari 50 and The Making of Karateka. Unrealistic to expect of most, granted, but the gold standard as far as I’m concerned. A good, more vanilla example is the Mega Man Battle Network collections, since they have proper online play and content that was previously Japan only.

_haha_oh_wow_, do games w Best ergonomic/vertical mouse for FPS gaming?
@_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

I have a Logitech MX Vertical and like it pretty well, but the only other vertical mouse I tried was some knock-off from Amazon that died after a couple years.

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