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MarcomachtKuchen, do games w Subnautica - Time Capsule Galore

The time capsule was such a cool idea to integrate asymmetrical multiplayer into the world

Katana314, do games w Gacha games are out of control. Gambling shouldn't be so widespread

It’s a small measure, but I’d really like to see a law where gacha games need to publicly advertise their odds and allow independent verification.

The biggest effect it would have is, the odds would need to be static. Many gacha systems have been accused of putting a hand on the wheel, assuring someone “so close to their needed item” must keep going through a series of failures.

trashgirlfriend,

This is already a thing in most gacha games due to laws that already exist in certain countries.

The way the gacha works is very public knowledge for every popular one, and can be verified by the players.

BruceTwarzen,

I don’t really know a lot about gatcha games, the only one i played was some DBZ game, because i wanted to get back into DBZ, and shiny things. I never payed money for it, because honestly i didn’t really see the point, aside from it being an obvious waste of money, and at the end of the day, i never felt like i missed out of anything, because of maybe luck or just grinding or not caring enough.

anyway, i’m pretty sure they said what the odds are of pulling a specific card, and that it’s like in the 1% or 0.5% or whatever. But i don’t think that helps at all, because people who gamble like to game, no matter the odds.

UnderpantsWeevil,
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Without spending money, a lot of these games simply become boring and deeply repetitive over time.

The system for farming “free” in game currency feels more like a chore than entertainment. The benefits of each upgrade is more marginal while the adversaries progress rapidly.

There’s a “git good” angle to this kind of game, as it drifts from an FF-on-easy-mode to Dark-Souls-on-Legendary. But if I want that experience, why not just buy a copy of a Souls game?

Certainly Eldin Ring is worth a few hundred hours, has a much richer experience, and won’t immolate my wallet inside a month.

gwen,

publicly advertise their odds and allow independent verification.

The biggest effect it would have is, the odds would need to be static

i mean, genshin kinda does this?? ingame on the wish screen they tell you about their pity system, where 75-100 is a guarenteed top-tier drop

ZILtoid1991, do games w Gacha games are out of control. Gambling shouldn't be so widespread

I’m quite sad that most games for smartphones are either gatcha-hell, or add-ridden messes.

What good options are there? I tried OpenTTD for Android, but the UI is really not optimized for such a small screen.

TriflingToad,

there’s still good games on the app store, you just gotta pay. Stardew is good on phone

Asifall,

Here are games I like that are just mobile ports without ads or micro transactions:

Slay the spire

Monster train

Mindustry

Mini metro

Honorable mention to Vampire Survivors which is mostly a simple port, but it does incentivize you to watch ads for extra lives.

BombOmOm, do games w Subnautica - Time Capsule Galore
@BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

Lol, capsule distributor apparently running a little high on stock!

Blackmist, do games w Gacha games are out of control. Gambling shouldn't be so widespread

Quite a few years ago now I went to my nan’s house for Christmas.

My cousin, I think he was about 13, had got a £50 Steam voucher for some games. Him and my other cousin who was a couple of year older went to Steam, swapped the voucher for something, and then took that to a gambling site. I don’t know if they’re still a thing. It was something to do with Counter Strike drops I think. Heavily advertised by YouTubers who ran them, with a bunch of videos showing them winning. The sort of thing they’d be sent to prison for in any right thinking society.

They took that £50, put it in, and clicked. The younger one went “what now?” and the older one just went “oh, nothing. It’s gone.” A couple of games worth of money, gone. For nothing.

He looked like he was about to cry, and only didn’t because he was going through that acting tough phase.

He’s an accountant now, and plays crown green bowling. I like to think that was a relatively cheap lesson in why not to fuck around with gambling.

barsquid,

That’s so devastating. I feel awful when kids are let down like that.

derpgon,

At least that lesson cost mere £50 and not thousands of pounds if he won and wanted to chase that dopamine hit of winning.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

It sucks, but in a world we’ve chosen to litter with landmines, it’s a relatively harmless experience.

I would be more worried about the kid winning and internalizing the feeling of instant gratification.

lorty,
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Seems about right. CSGO skin gambling was all the rage 10 years ago.

Miphera, do games w Gacha games are out of control. Gambling shouldn't be so widespread

At least make all gacha games R18, no kids should be exposed to this stuff.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Curious to see what that would do to the industry as a whole. But this is not entirely our of line with what countries like Korea, China, and Japan have already been fiddling with.

jmsy, do games w Gacha games are out of control. Gambling shouldn't be so widespread

Is roblox a gacha game? My little 7 year old nephew wants to play but I’m not sure if it’s appropriate (as the gaming liason in the family)

AngryCommieKender,

I wouldn’t call Roblox itself a gacha game. That category is the ones where you are trying to collect all the heroes in the game and level them up with rare loot. AFAIK they generally, if not always, involve loot crates that you have to purchase.

Roblox has its own problems. As spelled out by People Make Games in these two videos.

youtu.be/_gXlauRB1EQ?si=ngjtGwhA5JH5FcEL

youtu.be/vTMF6xEiAaY?si=u1z_LYfOYrOMlUDd

Roblox claims to teach kids how to make their own games. At this point from what I’ve heard, I would suggest Unity Engine before Roblox, and I wouldn’t recommend Unity after their pricing debacle.

Watch the videos, and have a serious discussion with his parents about it before you get him that game platform.

retrieval4558,

Don’t know if there are gacha mechanics but Roblox has been widely criticized for basically using child labor. The majority of content is user created. Don’t know how exactly it’s monetized but i can’t imagine it’s good.

mrvictory1,

Roblox is not a game, it is a game platform where users make games. Roblox games, especially ones that are mildly popular at 500-5k active players usually have reasonable monetization and no gacha. Some have lootboxes.

Ibaudia, do games w Gacha games are out of control. Gambling shouldn't be so widespread
@Ibaudia@lemmy.world avatar

I remember being pissed when I got shitty cards from a YuGiOh booster pack when I was a kid, never bought new packs again. Only got stuff if I knew its value first. The fact that kids these days are actually falling prey to these systems shows how much more advanced and predatory they are.

Annoyed_Crabby, do games w UFO 50 | Review Thread

Heard it like years ago and wow, it finally came out. Can still remember the day they trying to remake Action 52 on TIGsource, glad they made an entirely new one, and the review are good too.

simple, do games w UFO 50 | Review Thread

I can’t believe it’s finally coming out. I’ve been following this game since it was announced 7 years ago. I’m even more excited now that the reviews are really good.

ampersandrew,
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7 games per year is a pretty good cadence! Most studios are on their way to being 7 years per game.

Dasnap, do games w UFO 50 | Review Thread
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You could put this game in my hands and I still won’t believe it’s actually real.

SuperSpruce, do games w Gacha games are out of control. Gambling shouldn't be so widespread

The interesting thing is that although I’ve almost never spent money on a gacha system and haven’t played much gacha systems recently, my brain subconsciously craved for more but in a safer way.

That’s why I created the JavaScript weighted playlist for myself: A random selection of songs from my music library where some songs play (much) more than others. Getting a super rare song is akin to getting a top tier drop. Additionally, the playback rate is randomized to a normal distribution, giving the tiny chance that a rare song can play with a wild playback rate. And if that wasn’t enough, some Geometry Dash related songs can randomly skip to the next song, simulating watching someone try to beat some demon level.

I’ve created a skinner box for my brain that sometimes causes me to waste hours just clicking on the “next song” button to see what shows up next. My wallet was not harmed in the process (although it might soon be because I want it to work on a portable device, but that money would go to some niche open source hardware thing rather than a greedy gacha publisher).

Buttflapper,

This is extremely interesting and in general kind of touches on a point that I heard that’s kind of funny… People are just bored, and all of Good and bad things that we do in this world are a result of that boredom. Gambling, our hobbies, picking up another job. If it cures your boredom there’s nothing wrong with it

acetone, do wiadomosci w Zbiorczy wątek powodziowy
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Najlepiej dołączyć do serwera discord (niestety) polskich łowców burz - ogrom informacji na bieżąco ze wszystkich rejon dotkniętych kataklizmem.

lnxtx,
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Może dasz radę tutaj wklejać co ciekawsze kąski?

acetone,
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Chciałbym ale nie mam na tyle wolnego czasu aby to robić. Poza tym jest tego tyle że nawet nie wiem od czego zacząć.

riodoro1,

Każdy używa albo platformy miliardera faszysty, albo cyborga złodzieja danych albo discorda.

Super epoka informacji.

lysy,

ew. Rado Wrocław - stream4.nadaje.com:9240/prw

harcesz,
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My nie :D

Fleur_, do games w Gacha games are out of control. Gambling shouldn't be so widespread

Don’t gamble please for the love of fuck, all gambling is mathematically designed to never pay off for the one gambling

RobotZap10000,
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It’s a lot easier to design when the only payout are pixels on a screen.

EatATaco,

I generally agree, but poker is an exception where, if skilled enough, you can actually make money.

Blackmist,

The problem is that everybody sitting around that table thinks they’re skilled enough.

EatATaco,

Plenty of times I agree. However, no other game in the casino is one so heavily reliant on skill, and if you are skilled in it, it can pay off.

xavier666, (edited )

Excuse me but I heard that the real problem with gamblers is that 99% of them quit before winning big.

BruceTwarzen,

You are 100% sure to win if you play long enough.

Mitro, do wiadomosci w Zbiorczy wątek powodziowy
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