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spacecowboy, rok temu do games w Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare III Was November's Best-Selling Game In US, Already Second Best Of The Year

You’re right, I did not. I don’t like throwing money at the same product each year. You’re also right, there are plenty of people spending money. People also pre order everything that comes out, giving studios cart blanche to release unfinished games.

You’re all the reason the gaming world is so homogenous and unimaginative. Why create anything new, right?

dinckelman, rok temu do games w "The Day Before" makers Fntastic are shutting down.

Really not upset about it at all. They’ve lied to people, mislead everyone, gave false or incomplete descriptions of the product, and then released a horribly buggy asset dump, that doesn’t look anything like the pre-rendered clip they’ve shown forever ago

Why9, rok temu do games w Game devs should follow the BG3 development footprint

I see what you’re saying, but it’s unviable for much of the industry, and Apex seems to be a rare case where it found success despite the competition of overwatch, counter strike etc and despite being unknown (unlike valorant, which had significant brand recognition behind it).

But it’s unviable. Large studios need to market their games early to recover development costs through pre purchases and get people excited enough to buy day 1 (and to convince investors that there is enough excitement behind the title).

Small studios already do this - they don’t have brand recognition and therefore no money or need to market their games extensively (except on free platforms like Lemmy, Reddit etc), and hope their game somehow gets picked up by twitch and does well (e.g. Among Us). For many, many indie titles, their games die in obscurity, or get just enough attention to cover costs.

In general, what you’re asking for is the following: Don’t tell the public anything. Build a game that’s good enough but has an unknown IP (so that people who are hunting for registered URLs or LinkedIn hires don’t spot anything that could hint at a game), and then release it suddenly, but be absolutely confident that it is genuinely fun, it’s watertight (free from major bugs) and chef’s kiss optimised so incredibly well, that it gets nothing but glowing reviews on day 1 and word of mouth alone, through Twitch and YouTube is enough to propel it into the mainstream and make it an instant hit.

Or be Starfield lmao. If Bethesda is unable to do to Starfield what No Man’s Sky and Cyberpunk did, then there’s absolutely no confidence that Elder Scrolls 6 will be a good game.

wreckedcarzz, rok temu do games w What a random person on the internet thought of Homefront

I have quite fond memories of playing this games story, and never touched the mp (none of my friends had it). I liked it enough to pick up the second one shortly after release; it’s still in my pile of untouched steam games, but I really should play it sometime. I just started on Borderlands: the pre sequel, after receiving it as a gift at launch. Patience I guess, I’ll get to it eventually.

It’s interesting - I view cod as a try-hard series, both in playerbase and in development (money printer go brr). Call me counter culture or something, but I just don’t jive with the whole masses and their hype train. I really liked COD4, but that was likely because it was my first exposure to it. I went on to play, what, World at War (?) and thought it was trash, that one where “what do the numbers mean”, and then MW2 which was /fine/ for a once-and-done playthrough. I haven’t revisited the franchise since. “oh no, bad people in sand place are doing bad things and you should not think about it and just indescrimimately murder until we say so” as the story, give it “future ultra warfare X” behind the cod name, and bam, buy your next yacht. Two, why the hell not.

I also really liked Spec Ops: The Line, another game where seemingly nobody else has heard about it. Maybe the twist of not always being the good guys, coming to terms that war actually has depth beyond ‘double kill’, not always being on the offensive, not always “fuck yeah America”… is why I like these two titles in particular. COD, anything Tom Clancy or Battlefield, is just so… cookie-cutter bullshit. I like The Division/2 as well, likely for the same reason. We/Nato aren’t always the good guys in a conflict.

I dunno. Maybe I’m just getting old.

jarfil, rok temu do gaming w The developer of The Day Before seems to be deleting evidence that it was ever an MMO game

The promise I’m referring to, is to “release the code”.

(long version)I understand the thought process of people not wanting to show how messy their pre-production code is… but that’s why, following semver rules, you mark it as a version “0.x.y”. It’s not an exam, it’s nothing to be ashamed of, anyone who’s written code knows that’s how things work, and it’s on the community to be understanding of this, so the “initial dev” of an open source project should feel confident in releasing a tangled mess, no less no more.

Promising the code, then disappearing without giving a community that’s invested in the project a chance to take over, is what I find fishy.

sukhmel, rok temu do gaming w The developer of The Day Before seems to be deleting evidence that it was ever an MMO game

I’ve nothing to say more on topic. Off topic, people may be quite different and even if objectively there should be nothing bad in releasing pre-production, they may find it sensitive + there might be someone to actively offend for that. I only encountered the former, luckily

Sordid, rok temu (edited rok temu) do games w Light No Fire Announcement Trailer

It seems that you need a refresher. I suggest you rewatch those original pre-release trailers and then try playing the game to see if it looks anything like that. I did that a few months ago, and spoiler alert, it did not. Continued support is of course praiseworthy, but it wouldn’t have been necessary if Hello Games had actually kept their promises to begin with. It boggles my mind that gamers so vehemently defend a company that took a decade longer than it should have to deliver some (not all!) of what was promised and also wasted a bunch of time and resources on bloating the game with stuff that was never mentioned and that nobody asked for. Gotta be some form of sunk cost fallacy or Stockholm syndrome or something…

Needless to say, I disagree with you that there’s little reason to believe this will be the same. On the contrary, there is every reason to believe that. Due to my skepticism, I was talked down to by people excited by the trailers back then, just like I’m being talked down to by you now. Vindication felt very sweet first time around, so I’m looking forward to round two.

Sordid, rok temu (edited rok temu) do games w Light No Fire Announcement Trailer

That’s also something I was told in response to my skepticism during NMS’ pre-release hype phase, and it’s a complete misunderstanding of what’s going on here. I’m not trying to stop people from being happy, on the contrary, I’m trying to help them avoid disappointment by getting them to stop huffing hopium in industrial quantities. But they don’t wanna stop.

PlzGivHugs, rok temu do games w Light No Fire Announcement Trailer

I’ll treat it the same as every other, if after a couple weeks once the hype has worn down the game actually fulfills the general schtick and seems to have learned and integrated its NMS lessons, then I’ll consider getting it.

I got NMS for ten bucks at the NEXT update and feel like I’ve gotten far more than my money’s worth. This title hasn’t proven anything yet, and I’ll wait for the truth before purchasing it like I do with every other game. It’s been this way since like 2013 when the industry started pumping out incomplete live service nonsense with seasons and battle passes.

Thats exactly my point. We don’t know anything about the game, and are supporting it by just assuming that its going to be a great game and exactly whats promised from a studio that had previously lied frequently leading up to its last release. Thats why you don’t feed into another ridiculous hype train, and don’t pre-order or make day-one purchases. If they’ve actually learned their lesson and reformed, make them prove it before buying the game. I’m not saying don’t buy the game, I’m saying don’t buy in to the hype.

DepthCharge, rok temu do games w GTA 6 is likely to skip PC again and only launching on current gen consoles

GTA trilogy wasn’t developed by rockstar iirc. That being said, pre-ordering games is a dumb move anyway since games aren’t finished when they are being released nowadays

efstajas, rok temu do games w GTA 6 is likely to skip PC again and only launching on current gen consoles

It needs to be “optimized” for controller input in exactly the same way. They could’ve chosen to budget for this “optimization” (whatever that even means) pre-launch.

I think the most likely explanations are 1) larger player base on consoles, 2) Rockstar wants to get the release cash injection ASAP, and 3) staggering platform releases like this prolongs buzz and even leads to a bunch of people buying the game twice.

Joelk111, rok temu do games w Grand Theft Auto VI Trailer 1

I won’t be pre-ordering (because they likely won’t be releasing on PC at launch, ugh), but I have high hopes. There hasn’t been a R* game without a killer story. I kinda expected RDR2’s story to be an afterthought to the online, as that was their first game since GTAOnline, however it was still an awesome single player campaign.

Joelk111, rok temu do games w Grand Theft Auto VI Trailer 1

Sorry, I wouldn’t pre-order even if it was released on PC at launch, I didn’t make that clear.

Also, as if anyone should be worried about getting a copy when digital distrubition exists.

breakfastmtn, rok temu do games w 'The Witcher 4 will channel the “freedom” of CDPR’s Cyberpunk 2077'

Same! Pre-ordered and played hundreds of hours. It should’ve been released 6 months later but most of the bugs weren’t game-breaking. If an NPC had their arms stretched out to the side or whatever, I’d just have a laugh and move on. I’ve had to reload a save to get a side quest to trigger twice. I don’t think it’s even ever crashed on me though.

It’s just become blindly accepted that it is/was unplayable. I remember seeing so many articles months, even a year, after its release just confused about how so many people could be playing this unplayable game. Yet it’s always been consistently in Steam’s top 25 games for active players. It’s a weird disconnect.

MargotRobbie, rok temu do games w Star Citizen Just Had its Biggest Crowdfunding Day Ever With $3.5 Million in 24 Hours

After a decade and an astronomical amount of money spent, this thing is still in pre-alpha. People have left school, got married, have kids, played and forgotten No Man’s Sky, Elite Dangerous, and now Starfield, and there is still no Star Citizen.

It’s time to accept that Star Citizen will NEVER be released, because what Chris Roberts is selling is “dream as a service” which can be anything you want it to be, and one that never has to end for as long as the “game” is still in development.

The moment an actual product is released is the moment the flow of money will stop.

sirdorius, rok temu do games w First look at the new Tribes game from Prophecy Games

Yeah, I’m going to reserve my excitement for when I see gameplay footage or actually play it. Quake Champions looked really good in the beginning and then it ran like an internal pre-alpha. Tribes Ascend had so many OP hitscan weapons on release you thought you were playing Call of Duty. Waning general interest in “boomer shooters” and disastrous releases make these games more nostalgic memories than interesting future games in my mind.

Wootz, rok temu (edited rok temu) do games w First look at the new Tribes game from Prophecy Games

Yes it is.

The last Tribes game before this was Ascend, released over a decade ago.

Polygon targets, textured sizes, shader technology and much else has evolved dramatically since then.

You may reuse old assets as placeholders during development (but this can be problematic for the same reasons why temp music in filmmaking is problematic), but you absolutely do not have assets already made. Assets change over the course of development, often right up until release.

I can’t speak to whether or not these assets are from Ascend or earlier, nor can I speak to the visual production quality Prophecy is capable of, but seeing shoddy looking visuals from a pre-alpha title is normal.

Source: I am a trained game developer.

Pika, rok temu do games w "The Next Subnautica" aims to deliver underwater survival spooks in early 2025

here’s to hoping they don’t scrap a perfect story half way through again like they did in sub 2, I loved the original pre-release story, then they scrapped it for the boring one it is now

dana, rok temu do games w "The Next Subnautica" aims to deliver underwater survival spooks in early 2025

What was the pre-release story for BZ? I played it this year and thought the story was fine, though it didn’t manage to recapture the feelings of mystery and discovery of the first game

brawleryukon, rok temu do games w Have you tried Sea of Stars?

The messenger is actually a prequel to Sea of Stars.

Other way around. A “prequel” is a work that is released after (as in “sequel”) but set before (as in “previous”) another work.

Sea of Stars is a prequel to The Messenger, as it was released after The Messenger but is set (thousands of years) before it.

superduperenigma, rok temu do gaming w Gabe Newell on why game delays are okay: 'Late is just for a little while. Suck is forever.'

Because people will pre-order games to the point that it’s made a healthy profit even before it’s even released. Consumers vote with their wallet and for some reason gamers just constantly choose to show publishers that shoddy, half-assed products are good enough for them.

Buddahriffic, rok temu do games w GTA 6’s Publisher Says Video Games Should Theoretically Be Priced At Dollars Per Hour

Ignore the pre-release hype (I mean hype before anyone gets to try the game, early access hype is good). If the game is hyped after people get to play it, then I find it’s safer to trust, though personal preferences can still make it miss the mark.

Rentlar, rok temu do gaming w How has Cities:Skylines II been for you?

I won’t disagree with your stance, but I have just one question…

In which currency are you getting $100 for the basegame? Canada it’s $70 (rounding up), but pre-release it was C$60, USD it’s $50, in NZD it’s $80. The deluxe version isn’t worth it at all, you basically get the Golden Gate Bridge and the promise of a few assets and a DLC over the next year… for double the price.

echodot, rok temu do games w Cities Skylines 2 dev stuck to launch date despite “potential kicking”

It’s not quite the same thing though is it.

It’s a bit like developing a microwave meal and it turns out that it only really cooks in 2 minutes if you have an ultra powerful microwave then putting out a press release that says I know it says it’ll cook in 2 minutes on the packaging but unless you have a really powerful microwave add a few minutes to it.

The responsibility is still on the players to have reasonable expectations of the game depending on the hardware that they have.

Also it’s 100% my fault for pre-ordering the damn thing, I don’t know why I did that. But that’s on me because if I really wanted to I could have refunded it.