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Syrc, w Overwatch 2 is now Steam's "worst game of all time"

Good. Fuck Blizzard and their greedy, sexual assaulting, China-pandering asses.

binbou, w Overwatch 2 is now Steam's "worst game of all time"

I wish TF2 got the eSports treatment it deserved

ezures,

Honestly forcing competitive in tf2 was the worst thing to happen to it.

Naz,

I used to play Q2 competitively, so I’m a little opinionated:

Not all games are eSports-ready, nor do they need to be.

Why: eSports need to be fair. Everyone has to start at the same place, and the majority, if not all of the performance has to come from player skill.

E.g: Imagine modern football where certain players running on the field could just randomly teleport or fly, but most can’t.

Class-based (hero arena, etc) shooters are inherently unequal in the same way, because that’s the point of classes (e.g: Heavy having more HP than Scout, Spy being able to cloak and so on).

If you’re about to make the argument that “TF2/OW/LOL/WTFBBQ” requires plenty of skill despite the abilities/imbalance: save it.

There’s an enormous gulf between what the audience and casual players + enthusiasts perceive as being inside of an eSport and what’s actually going on mechanically on the top-level.

Players optimize and engineer the fun out of a game.

eSports players/pros engineer the game out of the game.

ashenblood,

Very strange argument. It seems like you’re bad at those games and created some elaborate theory to rationalize it. Class based games require just as much, if not more, skill than non-class based games. As the number of classes increases, the total amount of knowledge required and variety of techniques available also tends to increase.

Professional players do optimize the fun out of a game, but that’s totally unrelated to the point you were trying to make.

zalgotext,

If you’re about to make the argument that “TF2/OW/LOL/WTFBBQ” requires plenty of skill despite the abilities/imbalance: save it.

You know, normally this sort of statement would be followed up with some sort of rationale or explanation

quicksand, w Fan Ports PlayStation Classic [WipeOut], Dares Sony To Shut Him Down And Make Its Own

The one on the PSP was my favorite game for that console

simple, w A new fan-made port of Wipeout can be played in a web browser

What I’d do for a Wipeout Omega Collection PC port…

This is super cool, though

ABCDE,

How do you actually play it without smashing into the walls?

artillect,
@artillect@kbin.social avatar

You've gotta start turning kinda early to avoid running into walls, and the c and v keys (brake right and brake left) will help you on really tight corners

DarkThoughts,

Never got used to the handling of the ships in Wipeout as a kid. Enjoyed F-Zero X a lot more. Didn't really care for the combat aspects either.

I wish there was a good anti gravity racer for the PC with extensive ship customization and lots of unlockables though (as in playing to unlock, not paying). There's pretty much just small indie titles and most of them aren't even particularly good.

JohnEdwa,
@JohnEdwa@kbin.social avatar

The only two decent ones with that Wipeout feel that I know are GRiP and Redout.

DarkThoughts,

https://store.steampowered.com/app/473770/BallisticNG/
Can't get any closer to Wipeout than that.

Redout feels more like F-Zero imo. GRiP isn't anti gravity racer. Maybe more comparable to Extreme G. Reminds me of my old RC car though.

DarkThoughts,

It's not Wipeout, but BallisticNG might still be interesting for you.

wryan,

Man, I used to love futuristic racers when I was a kid. I put in some serious hours into the Xtreme G and the N64 version of Star Wars Podracer. Freaking Jetmoto... man, those were the days!

simple,

I’ve been aware of it for a while but never got around to playing it, thanks for the reminder!

Dlayknee, w Overwatch 2’s Story Missions Are Good, But Not $15 Good

So first Blizz dangled these missions as the whole reason for OW2, then after pushing the new game they announced that “sorry, the single-player game was too hard,” and now they’re selling us the scrapped content they abandoned as a one-off?

Is this real life?

Lolors17, w Overwatch 2 is now Steam's "worst game of all time"
@Lolors17@feddit.de avatar

If I’m being honest, they deserve it. I played Overwatch 2 maybe 10 Times, the constant reminder that you aren’t playing for fun, but for a totally original and new character or something very useful like a skin in the battle pass is quite annoying. The 5v5 was at first glance refreshing but got old at a rapid pace. Just play Team Fortress 2 if you’re looking for a great shooter.

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  • Mr_Dr_Oink,

    They dont push it on you, except when you need to grind 45 levels a season just to be able to play the new character that anyone willing to pay already has.

    Maybe thats not a problem for you, i dont k ow your situation, but i get enough time for maybe 2 or 3 games a night except when i have nothing else on. I BARELY scraped getting rammattra and i had to win 35 games as support to get lifeweaver (which sucked as a solo player). Now theres another one i have no hope in hell of unlocking unless i want to cough up the cash.

    That isnt fun, its a fucking drain. Its boring and its a complete slap in the face for anyone who supported overwatch 1 and waited years for the version of overwatch 2 that we were all promised that isnt going to happen.

    No thanks. Im going to play baldurs gate 3.

    99nights,

    God forbid you have an actual life when it comes to others and gaming.

    LargestDong,

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  • Mr_Dr_Oink,

    So you are saying that you had a different experience to me and that is exactly my point. Putting aside the fact that i glfind it very unlikely that you got the new hero “with ease” i did not and winning 35 games as support as a solo player is not easy or fun.

    Regardless saying you dont need the new hero shows you dont really understand the mechanics of the game. You are supposed to be able to change your character to counter the choices the opposing team have made. If the new character is a good counter and i dont have them then i lose out. Simple as that.

    bloodninja, w After 27,000+ Steam reviews, Overwatch 2 is graded as 'Overwhelmingly Negative'

    I stopped playing when they did not let people pick the same heroes. Played more for the fun and the chaos. Did not care if I won as long as I was having fun but the game went the pro gamer route.

    peasinspace, w Strange Colorful XBOX 360 Games #13 (@RebelTaxi)

    thanks for the share, this vid is awesome. love the bumpers between games too.

    been watching a lot of old g4tv reruns with commercial breaks on youtube lately, kinda reminds me of that (minus some of the 00s grossness. glad weirdness towards women and homophobia isnt in anymore)

    can, (edited )

    He definitely got some inspiration from those days. I adore the bumpers. He recently made a good video on some of the weirder gaming shows from that era too.

    peasinspace,

    yeah i have that vid queued up rn. subbed to the channel pretty quickly once i got into the vid you posted. the editing is fantastic, big fan 👨‍🍳👌

    nostradiel, w Overwatch 2 is now Steam's "worst game of all time"
    @nostradiel@lemmy.world avatar

    Blizzard is done from my point of view. They don’t care about players anymore.

    transientpunk,
    @transientpunk@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Companies NEVER care about their customers. They care about profit.

    Sometimes, it is profitable to be considerate of the consumers, but when customers are willing to give a company money despite their bad practices, they will always prioritize profit.

    Onycho,

    That’s the problem, if at least a part of us would start to punish companies, not with comments or bad reviews but with their actual wallet, and instead “reward” them for customer friendly behavior, the industry as a whole would be in a faaaaar better state.

    butterflyattack,

    I think maybe it requires legislation or a change in systems. It’s not really feasible to rely on millions of individual customers coming together to punish bad companies, it just doesn’t seem to happen effectively or make a significant impact.

    weirdo_from_space, w Overwatch 2 is now Steam's "worst game of all time"

    Every week some other game seems to claim that title.

    fritata_fritato, w Stalker 2 could still release this year, according to distributor listing

    Whenever will be all good. There are a few things going on over there

    Zardoz, w Overwatch 2 is now Steam's "worst game of all time"

    Guess that’ll be the last time they put a game on steam

    Call_Me_Maple,
    @Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world avatar

    Nah, the next CoD is most definitely coming to Steam. Blizzard had to know that these reviews were coming from the discourse online alone. Plus, pretty sure that it’s Microsoft’s decision to do so now anyways and there’s no way their going to limit their potential profits by locking out a platform like that just over some bad reviews.

    Contend6248,

    You poor soul, do you think they give one single fuck?

    Blizzard is tone deaf, all they look at is the moneyflow

    r1veRRR,

    How is everybody just now finding out how capitalism works? Any public company is LEGALLY REQUIRED to care only about shareholder profits. It is literally illegal for them to do anything else.

    upandatom,

    This is not true.

    the_post_of_tom_joad,

    That’s a widespread belief my friend, that is just not true.

    chiliedogg,

    Fiduciary duty is a real thing. Agent/principal relationships require the agent to try and get the maximum return for the level of risk.

    Even if a CEO doesn’t have a written fiduciary duty in their contract do, the company as a whole usually does.

    The CEO of a public corporation reports to the board who report to index fund managers who have a agent/principal relationships with all of their investors.

    upandatom,

    Your examples are not counter points to the original claim of

    Any public company is LEGALLY REQUIRED to care only about profits. It is literally illegal for them to do anything else.

    chiliedogg,

    The comment was basically shorthand for “a fiduciary duty exists between corporate leadership and shareholders, creating a legally-enforceable requirement that the only consideration be maximum potential return on investment for existing shareholders and risk.”

    r1veRRR,

    It’s absolutely true in practice. CEOs have gotten sued for not acting in the shareholders best interests.

    And in relation to the original comment I replied to, are you truly saying that companies, esp. public companies, are not, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, beholden to making money for the shareholders? Any “nice” company will make less money, will not compete well, will then fail or be bought out by the less nice, more profitable company.

    the_post_of_tom_joad,

    Im not a lawyer, but I’ve looked into this misunderstanding before and it stems from what constitutes "breaking one’s fiduciary duty to investors. While deliberately acting against the interests of investors is illegal, ive yet to hear of a lawsuit, let alone a successful one, brought by an investor for not making all of the money. Id be interested in hearing an investment oriented lawyers perspective since from what i understand, the full extent of fiduciary duty has not been tested that way in court

    JustZ,
    @JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

    Lawyer here, it is true.

    Board of directors and company officers have a fiduciary duty to the stockholders and the corporate entity.

    Acts done outside their authority as stated in the articles of corporations are said to be ultra vires. They are absolutely actionable.

    When the directors or officers breach the fiduciary duty to shareholders, they are liable under what’s called a derivative action, because it is derivative of the contract represented by the stock certificate.

    Kraivo,

    They only come to steam because of desperation

    Call_Me_Maple, w Strange Colorful XBOX 360 Games #13 (@RebelTaxi)
    @Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world avatar

    Aye, my boy Pan Pizza getting a shout out on Lemmy, let’s go. I love his videos so much.

    gk99, w Obsidian says Avowed was originally co-op but it just wasn't Obsidian enough

    Lame. There’s no reason you can’t have co-op in an RPG. Wasteland 3 was made 100x better with the addition and allowing me to share the experience with a friend.

    DeriHunter, w Tech This Out: Adaptive Controllers are game changers, meet the pioneers

    “I wish you could see me! I’m missing 3 limbs and I’m kicking your ass!” Lmao, this guy’s amazing! Some people are incredible.

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