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DeathbringerThoctar, w DOOM creator keen on "ethical" uses for AI, but worried about AAA-style "homogenisation"

I’m 1000% behind an Anachronox reboot or sequel. The cliffhanger at the end of the original game is one of the largest unanswered questions of my childhood.

Mini_Moonpie,

Thank you for naming the game in the screenshot.

Squirrel, w Dusk: Unpopular opinion: I'd rather pay Valve 30% and put up with their de facto monopoly than help Epic work towards their own (very obviously desired) monopoly
@Squirrel@thelemmy.club avatar

I have no problem with competition, but don’t force me to use your inferior product. If any of the major companies developed an actual competitor with the Steam launcher (in terms of features, not just a lousy storefront), it would likely get some use. If they somehow made it better than Steam, plenty of people would likely jump ship.

Epic is just a failure of a launcher. Nobody uses it over Steam by choice, because it’s lacking in nearly every way. While I’m not big on exclusives, if the launcher was a reasonable Steam alternative, they wouldn’t bother me nearly as much. As things stand, I’m firmly in the “fuck Epic” camp.

ILikeBoobies, w Dusk: Unpopular opinion: I'd rather pay Valve 30% and put up with their de facto monopoly than help Epic work towards their own (very obviously desired) monopoly

I just hope Steam can be broken up

Make the workshop and community their own company

conciselyverbose, w Mad Max vs Days Gone, which do you like more?

Mad Max was decent, but it chose setting over gameplay with how insanely empty it is, and while car combat is fun, driving without the combat really isn't and there's a huge amount of it to make the big empty desert feel like a big empty desert.

nanoUFO, (edited ) w DOOM creator keen on "ethical" uses for AI, but worried about AAA-style "homogenisation"
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

Is there any ethical AI, all they do is take data people posted online and then profit off it. With the original creators not getting a say if their data gets used or any profits derived from it.

geosoco,

arguably no?

Though Getty did introduce their new AI today that was only trained on images they own the copyright to. Arguably, still not ethical, but at least it's things they own the data for.

nanoUFO,
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

Can you verify their training sets or do you have to take their word on it.

geosoco,

I didn't dig too much into it, but my guess would be no.

Even if you could verify, it's still an ethical grey area as it's taking works they paid photographers to generate new works potentially without crediting the original photographers? Their own website tells people they have to credit the original photographer, and I'd be surprised if the AI lists all the works it used to create it.

DaCookeyMonsta,

If your training is from in house sources possibly, although then you’re limited on sample size.

sugar_in_your_tea,

We did this in a previous org. Basically, we had a bunch of user-generated data, users would then classify a sample of that data, and then we’d train our model on those classifications.

I don’t see how it would work in game dev though, unless they’re using AI to customize an NPC’s behavior based on the player’s actions (i.e. teaching an enemy to block player attacks). Generating models and whatnot would just have too small of a data set to work with.

kadu, w Could we see an Intel Meteor Lake powered PC handheld? 'It's really just up to the OEMs'
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

I hope so, a duopoly isn’t exactly good but it’s better than a single viable player.

And it’s not like AMD is perfect: their APUs had several issues that Valve and open source contributors had to fix on their own.

Vilian,

what issues?

CookieJarObserver, w China hosts esports’ biggest moment with Tencent at the wheel
@CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works avatar

Nah. Fuck em.

Dindonmasker,
@Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works avatar

True but that sounds kinda cool. I’m not gonna watch it but it’s fun for people who participate and who like watching that kind of thing.

funnystuff97, w Cult of the Lamb publisher Devolver Digital rejected several Game Pass style offers

Calling Devolver Digital the “Cult of the Lamb publisher” is like calling Pixar the “Toy Story 4 creators”. It’s not untrue, but they’re also known for publishing a lot of other things. But I get why they picked this game for the headline, it’s in vogue right now.

Astroturfed,

It’s an amazing game. I love murdering cuddly things with devil worship.

conciselyverbose,

It gives me strong Woodland Critter Christmas vibes lol

Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

I did it too much and got to the end of the sorcery chain too early. Then I was just sacrificing my friends for fun instead of "and profit".

hayes_,

It’s also like the perfect example of a gamepass game.

I loved it for like 3 days and then it ran out of depth and I haven’t touched it since.

pleasemakesense, w Ransomed.vc group claims hack on ‘all of Sony systems’
@pleasemakesense@lemmy.world avatar

at least they comply with gdpr

Vilian,

chad: fuck multibllion company but not user privacy

PM_Your_Nudes_Please, w CD PROJEKT RED: We wanted to let you know that mods will be automatically disabled for the launch of #PhantomLiberty. This is to prevent issues that are caused by mods before they receive updates....

That honestly sounds reasonable. It’ll be impossible to troubleshoot legitimate issues when they can’t even determine if the issues are being caused by a mod that the user installed years ago and hasn’t touched since.

kae, w Steam SHMUP Fest, now through October 2nd

I had no idea what SHMUP is… so if you’re like me they are SHoot eM Up games. Either bullet hell or isometric shooters.

Abrslam,

There’s a lot more to the genre, and the isometric shooters you’re talking about are technically not shmups, rather they’re twin stick shooters. A true Shmup is the bullet hells you mentioned, but bler hell is actually a subgenre, there are many types of shmups that control the same way a bullet hell does, but minus the hell of bullets. Check out Shmup Junkie on YouTube and join his discord to learn more than you ever imagined about this amazing genre!

Colorcodedresistor, w Dusk: Unpopular opinion: I'd rather pay Valve 30% and put up with their de facto monopoly than help Epic work towards their own (very obviously desired) monopoly

We are just now getting out of the bullshit days of 40 game launchers. The Big Industry morons like Ubi, Ea and Bliz are crumbling. Indie devs are being celebrated and releasing titles now more than ever before. We are in a ‘quiet’ time of gaming. i believe. not a dark time. If the mainstream industry can get back to more honest and longevity based projects then we will in the next 5-10 years see another golden age (think 2007 or 2017 release titles) and of course year over year everyone can point to one or two games worth playing for the whole year or two till the next one.

chiliedogg,

2023 is one of the best years in the history of gaming. So, so many many great titles, large and small, have been released this year.

terny,

I don’t keep up as much as I used to, what are great small games that have released this year?

greenkarmic,

Halls of Torment is pretty good

chiliedogg,

Sea of Stars is spectacular so far.

Trainguyrom,

So there’s this guy named notch who’s making a funky indie title in Java…

I kid but my wife and I have banked so many hours playing Minecraft together in the last 2 weeks

Jakeroxs,

BG3, Larian wasn’t exactly a powerhouse of gaming prior to it

LUHG_HANI,
@LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world avatar

I hope ubisoft go bankrupt. Everything is pile of hot scamming garbage.

Trainguyrom,

think 2007 or 2017 release titles

Remember, Skyrim was released closer to the first year you listed than the second one and the sequel is still quite a ways out. There are entire release day players of Elder Scrolls 6 who were not yet born when 5 came out.

Jakeroxs,

What’s your point? They released Fallout 4, Skyrim Special Edition, VR editions of both, Fallout 76 and Starfield since then

The worst out of the list being FO76

JokeDeity, w Dusk: Unpopular opinion: I'd rather pay Valve 30% and put up with their de facto monopoly than help Epic work towards their own (very obviously desired) monopoly

Valve may not be the cheapest by any means, but that’s because they’re offering a product 30x as valuable. The other launchers companies have are shit, across the board, nothing but shit. It’s not even in the same continent. If any one of these companies actually wants to ever see this change, they are going to have to set their greed aside. That’s impossible for CEOs in this day and age, so I don’t see Steam ever losing their stranglehold unless they do an about-face from everything they’ve done so far. In the grand scheme of things, Valve is one of the most customer friendly companies on the face of the Earth and they continue to be innovative and supportive to users. Epic on the other hand is everything wrong with capitalism, and much the same can be said for any of the other companies with competing launchers/game stores.

crab,

What’s so wrong with Epic? I prefer Steam but Epics client has a better UI, I haven’t found any problems, and deals seem better than Steam, especially with free games.

natryamar,

No communities, no guides, no VR , no game streaming, annoying download manager, annoying friends tab, no steam deck, no game collections AFAIK. When Fall Guys came out for free I gave the Epic launcher a real chance and it was incredibly limited in it functionality and frustrating to use compared to Steam.

Steam is shaping up to be your all in one library for anything games be it PC, VR or portable. The Switch, Quest, Playstation, Xbox and Epic launcher all offer a piece of that experience but having a unified platform that syncs your saves and doesn’t nickel and dime you for features and accessories is why Steam is more popular.

I haven’t been using Epic enough to really compare with Steam sales but stuff gets really cheap on steam really fast. I would also gladly buy my games for money on Steam just to be able to play them easily on my Steam Deck. Also Epic is only doing the free games because they have unreal and Fortnite money, there’s no telling when the free games will stop.

crab,

You’re right about most things, and Linux/VR support is often a deal breaker for me so I rarely use Epic. But you really think its that unusable? I’ve heard mostly positive things from my friends. I don’t care how or why they’re giving out free games but its a huge plus. I just really don’t understand all the hate.

natryamar,

I remembered some more stuff epic doesn’t have. Steam input and launch option customization. I can play Civ 6, a game meant for kbm, on my steam deck with the controller buttons. Epic obscures their exe files to make it hard to know which to add as a non steam game to steam.

It was annoying to go from steam with it’s deep and helpful functionality to epic with what essentially just feels like the iOS appstore. I especially hate being forced to use epic online services on a game I bought ON STEAM. I couldn’t play the sackboy game with a friend on steam deck because something along the way broke and epic services wouldn’t let me. This game is P2P there’s definitely no servers being involved so why the heck can’t they just use steamworks?

Epic being unusable is a bit of an exaggeration but in terms of the platform they offer it is inferior to steam in every single way and they have done almost zero to make up the gap. Instead they pay money to keep games away from steam and force you to use their launcher in the most annoying and inconvenient way. That’s why they get so much hate from people.

Gabu,

Adding to what Natryamar said, epic once bundled actual malware with their client and is partially owned by Tencent, the chinese company known for turning games into garbage.

MrPoopyButthole, w KSP2 is Spamming the Windows Registry Over Weeks/Months Until the Game Will Stop Working Permanently
@MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.world avatar

Holy shit. I just had this feeling early on to skip the early access. Seems like I made a good choice.

SaltySalamander,
@SaltySalamander@kbin.social avatar

I skip almost all early access games. Only one I made an exception for was Factorio.

yumcake, w Dusk: Unpopular opinion: I'd rather pay Valve 30% and put up with their de facto monopoly than help Epic work towards their own (very obviously desired) monopoly

I buy all my games on Epic Games Launcher becomes it has less DRM than steam. If you have kids, they can’t play 2 completely different games on two different computers.

It’s like your kid not being able to play Mario kart on her switch because her brother is playing Halo on Xbox in another room. Steam doesn’t support that. Epic games doesn’t have a problem with you having 2 different games being played on 2 different computers, so I buy my games there whenever I have the choice because it’s the more consumer-friendly platform.

Tranus,

Not to justify it, but you can work around this with offline mode.

n3m37h,

Family mode too

ParsnipWitch, (edited )

Family shared libraries can also ever only be used by one person. Or what do you mean with family mode?

n3m37h,

Ah didn’t known that tidbit

Kolanaki, (edited )
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If you have kids, they can’t play 2 completely different games on two different computers.

Steam does support that tho. That’s what Family Sharing is. And it works really well.

Now, if you wanted to play the same game at the same time, that’s on a single Steam account, that you can’t do. But I’m pretty sure you can’t do that on EGS, either. Not without 2 accounts and 2 copies of the game.

yumcake,

No, it explicitly does not work that way. If you share a game to another family member, and that family member plays that game, you are not allowed to play any other game at all on steam.

“A Steam library can only be used by one user at a time to play one game at a time. The same is true if that library is being accessed by another user via Family Sharing.”

help.steampowered.com/en/…/57A7-503C-991F-E9A8#:~….

Kolanaki, (edited )
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I know the wording there is fucked up, but have you used it? Because you can play two separate games at the same time with it, but you can’t play the same exact game as each other. I use it all the time to play stuff my sister has that I don’t, while she plays something else.

Jakeroxs,

Unless you’ve got some weird special option, they’re right, as soon as you launch a game in your library, it becomes unusable to family sharing, my wife and I use it but it’s very limiting in that aspect.

It even notifies you when the “family library” becomes available.

huskypenguin,

Two DIFFERENT games will work. Playing the SAME game SIMULTANEOUSLY will not work.

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