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CIWS-30, do gaming w Insomniac, Blizzard, Obsidian Devs Attack Baldur's Gate 3 Scope, Call it "Rockstar-Like Nonsense"...

Nobody really expects RPG's to be as big and deep as BG3, they just want a complete game that works without shitty microtransactions everywhere and always online for no reason. Plus, having interesting characters and storylines, quests that can be solved in more than one way, and gameplay that's actually formed by taking player feedback and listening to it is what people reacted well to, among other things. Baldur's Gate 3 doesn't even have Denuvo!

If there's one thing that I hope competitors learn from Larian and BG3, it's that respecting your players and giving them what they want leads to success. Similar to Elden Ring and from software, like that video mentioned. Now compare BG3 to Diablo 4 and Immortal, or the upcoming Starfield and you'll see why people love it. It's not about specs or scope, it's about designing a game to be actually FUN.

ripcord,
@ripcord@kbin.social avatar

Wait, what's wrong with the upcoming Starfield?

Goronmon,

Nobody really expects RPG's to be as big and deep as BG3...

Just to warn you, you will now be quoted in a future video about "Social media viciously attacks Larian for games that are too big and too deep!"

TheRazorX, (edited )

It's not about specs or scope, it's about designing a game to be actually FUN.

This is the key point that these publishers and studios are trying to avoid.

  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on designing microtransaction psychologically manipulative money sinks (dark designs)?
  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on creating addiction in the player-base so that they keep playing the game (and spending money)?
  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on bullshit DLC (not actual new content)?
  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on bullshit to satisfy shareholders?
  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on shit the devs don't want, but executives do?
  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on bullshit padding for marketing purposes?
  • How much of most AAA budgets are spent on bullshit DRM?

And keep in mind, by budgets here, I mean both the dollar amount AND time spent by devs that could be spent elsewhere (which is part of the dollar amount since salaries, but I wanted to make it clear that time spent is also important).

Some of the absolute best games in the industry have literally none of that, and people still want to play and buy them years after release because gasp they're actually fun, but these publishers and devs don't want to compare to those, because they WANT the industry to be a bunch of "GAAS" bullshit that's basically a vacuum pushed into people's wallets, cause hey, if it worked for Candy Crush....

lowdownfool, do gaming w Baldur’s Gate 3 is Causing Some Developers to Panic
@lowdownfool@kbin.social avatar

Is there something I can read instead of giving some jackass a view on Youtube?

Goronmon,

To summarize the actual tweets/comments/etc that these videos (there are multiple) are panicking about.

  1. Smaller studios aren't going to be able to replicate the scale and complexity of BG3. So people shouldn't be using BG3 as the bar to compare future titles/RPGs from other studios going forward. Larian is comparable in size (or even larger) to Bethesda when they released Skyrim, and no one has been able to compete directly with Skyrim either.
  2. Not all games and RPGs need to be as complex and long as BG3. Expecting open-ended, 100 hour-long RPGs for every future game/RPG isn't realistic. Not all games require that scope, it's rare to get such a budget for this type of game, and even if you did, most companies won't be able to replicate the game in a meaningful way. Just like how companies other than Rockstar would struggle to replicate the scale of games like GTA and RDR.

There, I've summarized multiple 20 min videos. Just without all the hand-waving and drama.

stopthatgirl7,
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So, I see you definitely didn’t actually watch the video.

Goronmon,

I did, did you?

stopthatgirl7,
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Considering I’m the one who posted it, yes.

Goronmon,

You would be far from the only person who has posted a link to an article/video they have never read/watched.

jeebus,
@jeebus@kbin.social avatar

It was a pretty good video with a good message. All the more surprising is that it was from IGN.

lowdownfool,
@lowdownfool@kbin.social avatar

I prefer not to sit through a 10 minute video for something that requires less than a minute reading time.

daniskarma, do games w PICO-8 0.2.7 | RELEASE OVERVIEW

To anyone living these kind of fantasy consoles I always recommend TIC-80 as it is a open source alternative. Feature full. And overall more powerful.

janewaydidnothingwrong, do games w Metroid Prime 4: Beyond - Release Date Trailer (December 4)

This looks so ass.

B0NK3RS, do games w PICO-8 0.2.7 | RELEASE OVERVIEW
@B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

I recently discovered what this is on my handheld and there are come really fun games. I’ve been playing Celeste Classic today and another that was an Outrun-esque that I forget the name of.

victorz, do games w PICO-8 0.2.7 | RELEASE OVERVIEW

Would be cool if there was a little description of what this is, please.

CaptainBasculin,

It’s a fantasy console, a console that has its specifications to achieve the old-style programs on it but isn’t limited to run on certain hardware.

victorz,

Sounds very niche.

chronicledmonocle,

It’s actually really neat. You should check it out.

victorz,

For $12–14, to test something I’m probably not interested in sinking time into, I think I have to pass. Thank you for the suggestion though!

Magnum,

How much are you willing to pay to test something and have an experience? $15 isn’t that much.

melmi,
@melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Also, games for it are written in a high level language (Lua) which makes it significantly easier to get into than actual old hardware.

Phytobus,

I had never heard of it either, but their website does a pretty good job of explaining it.

OminousOrange, do notjustbikes w This Train Just Keeps Getting Worse 😢
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JimVanDeventer, do games w Virtual Boy: Nintendo Classics - Announcement Trailer

I am maybe in the minority around here. I am excited to play around with these games. Also, even though the narrator says you need to buy the accessory, I suspect the Labo thing or any of the cheap Switch VR headsets will do the trick, and that’s what I’m intending to use.

Kolanaki, do games w Virtual Boy: Nintendo Classics - Announcement Trailer
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Oh god. They didnt even improve upon the BODY in any way. They could have at least made the feet longer so it stands a bit taller.

Even when I was a kid, the VB was super short and uncomfortable to use as intended. I always just laid back in bed and just let it lay on my face 😅

Dremor, do games w Virtual Boy: Nintendo Classics - Announcement Trailer
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

Incredibly cursed. Who asked for this.

Their shareholders, I suppose.

morphballganon, do games w Virtual Boy: Nintendo Classics - Announcement Trailer

How many kids are going to have their vision fucked up this time?

nutsack, do games w Virtual Boy: Nintendo Classics - Announcement Trailer

bad ass

TwinTitans, do games w Virtual Boy: Nintendo Classics - Announcement Trailer
@TwinTitans@lemmy.world avatar

But…why?!

inclementimmigrant, do games w Virtual Boy: Nintendo Classics - Announcement Trailer

Who asked for this?

Executives that are banking on nostalgia of gamers with disposable income and little sense to see through their greed.

SlartyBartFast, do games w Metroid Prime 4: Beyond - Release Date Trailer (December 4)

I love Metroid games ever since I heard they were named after the Metroidvania genre of games, and also when I played Metroid for NES as a kid

Iunnrais,

Did you mistype, employ sarcasm, or were you not aware that the genre is named after Metroid, not the other way around? Metroidvania— games employing similar experiences to Metroid and some of the more notable Castlevania games.

SlartyBartFast,

Woosh

Iunnrais,

I suspected as such, that’s why I asked for clarification.

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