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Soup, do games w Star Wars: Outlaws being a "AAAA Game" for 3 minutes

I’d guarantee that everyone here’s favorite game of all time had bugs on launch. I say this with the understanding that there are games that launched with few to no bugs- many or even most of the AAA games we all know and love stated out with issues.

But don’t let this get in the way of a good old fashioned pitchfork parade. Keep on hating.

WereCat,

Indeed there are plenty of games with way more bugs than this one but bugs themselves are not the issue.

Skyrim had and still has many bugs but despite all that it’s a good game.

This game will remain bad even if you’ll fix all bugs.

Soup,

No game was made to appeal to every player. I haven’t gotten it yet- so I’m reserving judgement.

mods_mum,

Expecting a decent product for the price you paid == hating. What a 2024 moment.

Soup,

That’s not at all what I said. And the fact that you need to create this straw man in order to have a response lends to the fact that you’re the type of person that will take a video on YouTube to be an example of what is happening to everyone that has played it.

Stay mad, bro.

mods_mum,

Well, I’d rather be mad about being scammed then bend over for a shitty studio, but this is a safe space mate. No one’s kink shaming here.

Soup,

Well, I guess you dodged that bullet, eh… mate? But do know there are tons of people playing it that haven’t and probably won’t experience the issues in your cute little hate video. I hope that doesn’t upset you too much.

mods_mum,

Why would I be upset about other people? You ok mate?

Soup,

I’m fine mate. and why would you be upset? I can’t answer that. I’m not the one that posted a lame video showcasing a day one compilation of glitches in a video game I have no intention of playing.

Have a day bud. I’m moving on. Maybe you should as well.

mods_mum,

There was nothing to move on from in the first place. Maybe you just want to have your opinions validated by others too much? This was posted for laughs and as can be seen by the votes, almost everyone here got it. What you’re doing is just unhealthy mate. Take care.

Soup,

ROFL! My opinions validated? You’re the one that posted a video about glitches in a day one release of a game.

You’re soaking up all the validation in the comments of people agreeing- and yet, seemingly butthurt that someone disagrees with you right here.

Go on man. If you’re not upset- ignore my comments and bask in the sweet sweet glow of people agreeing with your every word.

😆

I’m fine either way… mate

Oh and a side note:

One isn’t seeking validation by posting an unpopular opinion in a thread full of butthurt people crying over a video game.

Duamerthrax,

sooo, don’t buy games at launch?

Also, plenty of AAA games never see their bugs get patched. I got stuck in a room in Dead Space for about 20 minutes trying to figure out the puzzle when it was just the boss that failed to load. This was a documented bug that was reported five years earlier.

Also, this isn’t what a pitchfork parade looks like. It’s not nearly that important.

Soup,

I didn’t say that either. But games have bugs at launch. They get fixed. But judging a game on its day 1 is fucking stupid.

Duamerthrax,

No, it’s fair to judge a game when it becomes available for purchase.

Soup,

K. Be mad then.

Duamerthrax,

Not what being mad looks like. This is what MST3K popcorn throwing looks like.

There are plenty of indie games that do launch in stable, playable states. I recommend Hedon, Dusk, or HROT.

LunarLoony,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

2008 called, it wants its retorts back

WolfLink,

I do think games typically launched with fewer bugs before it was common to be able to patch games over the internet

Soup,

Oh I’m sure that’s the case as well. Totally agree, however- people really need to relax on this shit. No Man’s Sky and CP2077 both serve as perfect examples that day one isn’t a finished product.

The people need to lighten up.

Goudewup,

The day a full price is asked is the day a finished project should be expected.

Soup,

Okay.

WolfLink,

These are bad examples for two reasons:

  1. Unless a game is sold as “pre-order for open beta access” or the more modern equivalent “early access”, I still expect games to be “complete” in terms of core content on release date. Bug fixes and quality of life changes later are ok, (but it would be nice not to need them) and games that never stop being updated are an exception (e.g. Minecraft).
  2. Neither of those games was really “incomplete” on launch in terms of core features. Cyberpunk had some bad bugs, but the core of its controversy was poor performance on older consoles, which (as I understand it) was never really fixed. No Man’s Sky was missing multiplayer on launch, but the core of its controversy was people didn’t like the core gameplay loop and also didn’t like the randomly generated terrain and creatures. NMS has received a lot of content since then, but it hasn’t really changed its core gameplay loop and has only slightly improved the quality of random generation.
Soup, (edited )

What about Outlaws is incomplete exactly?

And… BOTH of the games I mentioned were notoriously incomplete. Like- legendarily incomplete.

WolfLink,

Idk what’s incomplete about Outlaws I don’t know much about the game.

I bought and enjoyed both NMS and Cyberpunk on release, and they don’t seem to have changed that much since then. My theory for why these games are well-received now is all the haters quit the game near release so now, years later, only the people who originally liked these games are still playing.

What was incomplete about Cyberpunk (besides it not working on older consoles, and having more bugs than I would hope for?)

What was incomplete about NMS (besides lack of multiplayer?)

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

NMS was lacking portals and the sandworm, both things that it has now.

Cyberpunk actually changed a lot: they tweaked the handling of cars and bikes several times, put in a dating system where you can invite romanceable NPCs to your apartment, they removed armor from clothing and remade all skill trees to be more active, put in shooting inside a car, actually made the police pursuit instead of just spawning on foot cops near you, now even Max-Tac drops from a flying vehicle at max wanted, and finally in the last update: the metro system.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

I lighten up on small teams, I gave Anno mutationem a pass because it’s an indie game by a small team when they kept patching it all the time for 3 months, game was cheap too.

I won’t lighten up on 70 dollars trainwrecks with no ambition.

Nuke_the_whales,

I remember when games used to be shipped completed and without bugs that required day one patches or patches at all. Seems that shipping out games that aren’t optimized or ready to ship is so normal now that you say something like “everyone’s favorite game had bugs on launch”.

Soup,

Because that’s where we are now. The internet made it easy to patch shit. This is how it is. We’re not going back to how it was because we’ve moved on from that. It sucks, but that’s how it is.

We can cry about how it used to be- k won’t it can’t be that way again , or we can accept that things are different now and move on.

Want things the way they were? You’re you got have to remove the internet- yep…. The same internet you use to download that game and skip going to the brick-and-mortar is the same intern responsible for making patching incomplete games a thing.

Good luck.

jaggedrobotpubes, do games w Star Wars: Outlaws being a "AAAA Game" for 3 minutes

ummmmm that’s cute but Super Mario World is a tretrigintuple-A game

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f84d1432-8716-4820-9579-02b41854002b.png

jaggedrobotpubes,

That’s 33 As and go fuck yourself if you can figure out the word better:

simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuple_names

Blackmist, do games w Star Wars: Outlaws being a "AAAA Game" for 3 minutes

I think I laughed most when they said Far Cry 6 was a AAAA game. You can’t just call things AAAA because you can’t manage budgets.

I’ve never played a modern game before that loses first the voice audio and finally the gunshot sounds after a few hours and has to be reloaded.

I think the only game I can call AAAA with a straight face is Red Dead Redemption 2.

mods_mum,

Yet there are people on this thread claiming this is what triple/quadruple A gaming is and we should shut up, bend over and pay USD 60 for an unfinished product. I think I have a bridge to sell to them :D

umbrella, do games w Star Wars: Outlaws being a "AAAA Game" for 3 minutes
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

are we really taking the “AAAA” seriously? why?

Blackmist,

Because they’ve used it as an excuse to whack an extra $10 to the price.

I think some backlash is to be expected.

umbrella,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

are people still expecting ubisoft to put out good games or what?

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Oh just wait until AC Shadows launch, we will suddenly see massive fans of ubi’s output just because the game was chosen to be part of a culture war.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

it takes really tiny batteries

Phegan, do games w Star Wars: Outlaws being a "AAAA Game" for 3 minutes

I don’t understand what people were expecting this is an Ubisoft game, they are always mediocre trash.

CatZoomies,
@CatZoomies@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve had no excitement for this game since Ubisoft is such a disappointment of mediocrity. I grew bitter to them back when they announced the controversial shutting down of their legacy activation servers: this would prevent gamers from passing the online checks to play their games. Suddenly, despite me possessing a physical disc of Splinter Cell Blacklist on Wii U, I learned I would lose access to the DLC I paid for and “owned”. Certain missions would also become unplayable since you need online co-op. Ubisoft backpedaled after significant backlash from gamers, but since then I hesitate whenever I see them attached to any project.

I miss old Ubisoft. I’m playing Beyond Good & Evil 2003 on my GameCube for the first time, and this game is spectacular! Wish Ubisoft didn’t become evil, but it was inevitable.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

It’s either mediocre or trash, one is on the bottom and the other is at the middle.

MeDuViNoX, do games w Star Wars: Outlaws being a "AAAA Game" for 3 minutes
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EncryptKeeper, do games w Cyberpunk 2077: The Board Game - Official Trailer

So it all comes full circle

zziius,

They should make a tabletop RPG

YoFrodo,

I know a guy named Mike who’d be really into this…

That_Devil_Girl,
@That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml avatar

I think that’s just Shadowrun.

Janovich,

Cyberpunk 2020 already came out just before Shadowrun.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA, do games w Star Wars: Outlaws being a "AAAA Game" for 3 minutes
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

was this the team that made biomutant?

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

That’s an insult to biomutant, it’s the team that made The Division.

SuperSaiyanSwag, do games w Star Wars: Outlaws being a "AAAA Game" for 3 minutes

I’m not defending Ubisoft games, but I don’t get why people have such high expectations of them. I don’t recall the last Ubisoft game I played, but they seem like chill podcast games to me, I just turn my brain off and just take in the scenery.

Rin, do games w Cyberpunk 2077: The Board Game - Official Trailer

Yooooo!

samus12345, do games w Star Wars: Outlaws being a "AAAA Game" for 3 minutes
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve actually enjoyed the recent “Witcher 3” AC games and was hoping this would be kinda like that with a Star Wars skin, but the bigger emphasis on stealth makes it seem like it isn’t. Good thing I have AC Shadows to look forward to!

RangerJosie, do games w Cyberpunk 2077: The Board Game - Official Trailer

/sobbing

All I want is new game plus in 2077. Thats all I ask. Just let me keep levels if nothing else.

VelvetStorm,
RangerJosie,

I plan to build a PC eventually. Primarily so I cheat at videogames again like I did with GameShark on the PS2.

Kolanaki, do games w Cyberpunk 2077: The Board Game - Official Trailer
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Just the idea of a trailer for a board game is funny as hell to me.

mr_MADAFAKA, do games w A Minecraft Movie | Teaser
@mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml avatar

This looks awful

LambdaRX, do games w A Minecraft Movie | Teaser
@LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works avatar

Obviously main idea for this movie was just to have some minecraft stylistic and to be a cash grab. Creating interesting story was last on the priorities list.

Treczoks,

The “priorities list” has only two entries: a) make money with it and b) make it in a way that we can make a sequel to make more money.

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