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Dremor, do games w Virtual Boy: Nintendo Classics - Announcement Trailer
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

Incredibly cursed. Who asked for this.

Their shareholders, I suppose.

CosmoNova, do games w Virtual Boy: Nintendo Classics - Announcement Trailer

So they‘re selling a literal piece of plastic that becomes utterly useless the moment you lose access to their subscription service. Also, 14 games that they plan to release over time? Damn they must hate their customers with a passion.

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

If the recent pathetic patent filings were not enough to finally wake you up to what an awful company Nintendo are I don’t know what to tell you.

ch00f,

lol the actual Virtual Boy only had 11 titles.

PonyOfWar,

22 titles actually, of which 14 were released in the US.

missingno,
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It's a VB-themed redesign of the Labo VR kit. Should presumably be compatible with everything Labo VR supported (like, three titles I think?). Maybe the fact that they're bringing it back means they might reuse it in the future?

PonyOfWar,

This doesn’t have the head tracking capabilities of the VR kit, as you only insert the Switch which doesn’t have a gyro without the joycons.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Apparently they're selling two versions. One is the full scale VB, and that's clearly a collector's item. The other is the VB-themed Labo VR.

frezik,

I’m one of the Virtual Boy’s only fans. I don’t own a Switch 2 and don’t have plans to. I might just buy the accessory as a display piece.

EldritchFeminity,

At that point, why not just 3d print one or something. Save money by not giving it to a scummy company, and hey, throw a raspberry pi in there or something with an emulator and you can probably actually run Virtual Boy games on it.

Euphoma,

I believe the accessory works with switch 1 also, but its also really expensive at like 140 usd

TwinTitans,
@TwinTitans@lemmy.world avatar

God forbid they just released the entire library at once. Total of 5 megabytes 🥳

morphballganon, do games w Virtual Boy: Nintendo Classics - Announcement Trailer

How many kids are going to have their vision fucked up this time?

nutsack, do games w Virtual Boy: Nintendo Classics - Announcement Trailer

bad ass

TwinTitans, do games w Virtual Boy: Nintendo Classics - Announcement Trailer
@TwinTitans@lemmy.world avatar

But…why?!

inclementimmigrant, do games w Virtual Boy: Nintendo Classics - Announcement Trailer

Who asked for this?

Executives that are banking on nostalgia of gamers with disposable income and little sense to see through their greed.

catalyst, do games w Metroid Prime 4: Beyond - Release Date Trailer (December 4)
@catalyst@lemmy.world avatar

Man… this looks rough. I’m not sure what to even think. I really want to be excited for Prime 4 but none of the trailers have done it for me. Now we have this weird bike that looks awful.

I’m happy to be wrong and will wait and see how things turn out but the faith is being tested.

mechoman444, do games w Virtual Boy: Nintendo Classics - Announcement Trailer

Also just announced: new patents on covers opening and closing and adjustable legs.

Virtual Boy games will all release at full price individually.

TachyonTele, do games w Metroid Prime 4: Beyond - Release Date Trailer (December 4)

Phew im glad they showed her get off that bike Im not sure I'm confident an open world metroid would work well. But who knows, maybe it'll be a Breath of the Wild moment for the series.

SnotFlickerman,

I’m skeptical as well but they already restarted the game once when the original development team wasn’t producing a quality game. I suspect at worst it won’t be the worst game ever but it would be subpar for a Metroid game. Nintendo is usually pretty good at taking chances and making it work. Hell, I never thought Metroid could work in 3D and they proved me wrong. I guess my main issue is that Metroid traditionally is a cramped corridor style game, the opposite of an open world.

TachyonTele,

After Dread im skeptical Nintendo actually cares anyways. Open world Metroid on two morphballs? I'm sure corporate loved the idea.

SnotFlickerman,

I actually quite enjoyed Dread for what it was, imperfect as it may be.

TachyonTele,

I have 200+ hours in it. I liked it.
It's strays away from Super a lot. But... I don't even know if it's fair to compare games to super.

mnemonicmonkeys,

But who knows, maybe it’ll be a Breath of the Wild moment for the series.

At least Zelda was already pretty close to open world with most of their entries. Metroidvanias don’t really work as open worlds as a genre

TachyonTele,

It could. I couldn't make it, but someone could make a banging open world metroid.

I doubt it'll be this game.

mnemonicmonkeys,

Metroidvanias are at their core based on having areas closed off without specific abilities, while open worlds are about having the worl not be closed off. I don’t see how you can make a game that attempts both without failing at being good in either domain

frongt,

BoTW did pretty good. Prime 1 was relatively open world. In BoTW, you could get to a lot of places, but some were still semi-gated by damaging cold, damaging heat, inability to climb slippery walls. In Prime 1, you could get to a lot of places, but some were still semi-gated by damaging heat, damaging radiation, inability to climb spider ball tracks. But in both games, if you knew the tricks, you could get around those gates (though in BoTW this was intentional, in the Prime games it was not).

Cethin,

I suspect it won’t work for them, but I think the idea that they can’t work is wrong. With a really passionate and talented team, I think it could be done very well. It’d take real innovation though, unlike BotW. BotW was innovative for LoZ, but almost everything it’d done had been done before. I would say currently the closest formula they could copy is Elden Ring, and it isn’t as much of a Metroidvania as previous more enclosed entries were.

jacksilver,

Given I think BOTW was just fine, I’m a little worried about Metroid 4.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

I miss the curated dungeon design that we lost when Zelda went open world (no the divine beasts don’t count as dungeon’s)

TachyonTele,

The problem with the divine beasts is the entire trip to them is part of thier dungeon.
Someday I'd like to group a bunch of temples together, add environmental art to them, and release them as proper dungeons.

I haven't looked into modding the game yet though.

DoucheBagMcSwag, do games w Metroid Prime 4: Beyond - Release Date Trailer (December 4)

Oh no…Not a Neo-Zelda open world type of game.

The bikes with the empty land scare me now

RealM__,

yeah I dunno, the bike boost animation looked a bit jank. Couple that with the empty desert and the implications for the game design and I’m officially worried about Prime 4.

Well, it’s not like I plan on getting a Switch 2 anytime soon anyway, so there’s that.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

I wonder if that’s what “beyond” means… Like implying the (ugh) open world map design

BirdObserver, (edited ) do games w Virtual Boy: Nintendo Classics - Announcement Trailer

Wario Land is still a really great game on it even today that doesn’t deserve to be locked on flawed hardware (the motherboard disconnects one of the lenses over time and it’s a pain to repair), and Red Alert is one of those games in which the limitations actually, probably accidentally, give it a really unique hypnotic style, and the dual gamepad controls (also used to nice effect in Teleroboxer) ensured it didn’t just feel like a regular Nintendo game of the time. I don’t doubt it inspired actual classics like Rez.

I get the hate for the Virtual Boy - most games on it barely feel complete, it was uncomfortable to use, it made your pupils dilate - but it is a fun and important piece of weird gaming history, and Nintendo acknowledging it as such and finally officially allowing people some way to play those games again (knowing full well it’s going to get a lot of hate) is still a good thing overall for classic game preservation.

CosmoNova,

I don‘t think it does anything for game preservation. What is it preserving exactly? Not the titles. Those are subscription based. A piece of plastic where you can insert your handheld in? Just get a cheap VR headset for your phone. And if Nintendo thought Wario Land was so great then why did they stop making those games like 2 decades ago?

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

And if Nintendo thought Wario Land was so great then why did they stop making those games like 2 decades ago?

Because the last games didn't sell so well, and because the staff that worked on them have other projects.

Just because a game didn't get infinite sequels forever doesn't mean no one can appreciate the originals. By that logic, Chrono Trigger must be one of the worst JRPGs of all time to you.

BirdObserver,

Like everyone else here, I’ve got no love for Nintendo’s business practices, but the owner of the software having officially endorsed ways of playing their stuff on modern devices (let alone replications of original hardware, like with their old controller releases) has basically always been a good thing, both for average Joe consumer that’s interested in game history and doesn’t know what a ROM is, and for the emulation community who wouldn’t ever pay for this stuff but can often build off the tech (or educate us on the problems with it). Is any of this the ideal? Of course not, locking ancient games being a subscription is typical megacorp horseshit. But a kid being able to pick up a brand new Switch 2 and play Game Boy Arkanoid and Virtual Boy Teleroboxer on it is something.

Art of all forms shouldn’t be virtually inaccessible to the masses outside of methods of questionable legality (although, make no mistake, I think those methods are good too, and these things can coexist).

Whether or not the games are objectively “good” or popular is totally beside the point. Just because I can easily download a pirated version of some forgotten 80’s b-movie doesn’t mean it’s not a good thing when it finds some form of new life through an overpriced official boutique blu-ray release.

BuboScandiacus,
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

I mean

The game is called Red Alert for a reason

the16bitgamer, do games w Virtual Boy: Nintendo Classics - Announcement Trailer
@the16bitgamer@programming.dev avatar

On the one hand this is a blatant cash grab.

On the other, compared to the $1000 for Jacks Bros this is the deal of the century

rimjob_rainer, do games w Metroid Prime 4: Beyond - Release Date Trailer (December 4)

Wow, it looks… awful.

Coskii, do games w Metroid Prime 4: Beyond - Release Date Trailer (December 4)

Cool, they titled it appropriately.

Metroid: Beyond my interest.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w Metroid Prime 4: Beyond - Release Date Trailer (December 4)

As soon as I saw the motorcycle, I was immediately out. This is not Metroid.

AlexLost,

Pretty sure Nintendo is the definitive voice on what Metroid is, so I’ll take their word and not yours. They are trying something new, something every Metroid has done. I’ll wait until I e played the game before I judge it’s merits

TachyonTele,

Nintendo hasn't made a Metroid game in decades. Retro Studios made this.

AlexLost,

With Nintendo. But okay.

TachyonTele,

Nintendo published this game.

AlexLost,

It’s Nintendo property and they very much had a say in how it gets developed. Nintendo is not just a publisher.

RightHandOfIkaros,

Nintendo has been wrong before. Metroid Other M and Federation Force.

AlexLost,

Never said they haven’t, I said I’d trust them and judge for myself, not some edgelord mad because of element he dislikes. Without even actually seeing it mind you.

RightHandOfIkaros,

I did see it. It was the entire highlight of the trailer. I did not like it.

I do not have to play the game in order to give my opinion on what I have seen. If you take a crap on my dinner plate, I do not have to eat it to make sure it is crap first. I can see it, and I do not like it. It is an element that was completely unnecessary, and continues to make it very easy for me to avoid purchasing products that fund a vexatious litigant with a video game side business.

AlexLost,

Your loss. It’s was like 20 seconds. Awful quick to make up your mind, but that’s the world these days. We’re all experts after a minute of research.

Suburbanl3g3nd,

There’s a motorcycle in BotW and people love that game lol. What a weird take

RightHandOfIkaros,

Not me, lol.

Just because people like something doesn’t mean its good. Fortnite, League of Legends, the Disney Star Wars Sequel trilogy, etc.

RealM__,

You mean the DLC-exclusive motorcycle in BotW, that released 9 months after the actual game, that you only unlock after completing all major dungeons, do a long quest chain, and then an additional dungeon plus a boss fight, that drains materials while you use it?

You are comparing that DLC Bonus to an (appearent) major game design mechanic showcased in this Metroid Reveal Trailer?

Be real dude.

tkohldesac,
@tkohldesac@lemmy.world avatar

You just know the last boss or one of its forms is going to be riding either a bigger motorcycle or a car. And you’re going to have to destroy all the wheels in order to get it to stop.

RightHandOfIkaros,

Nintendo absolutely could not control themselves. There are probably multiple motorcycle bossfights. At least one is definitely in the massive empty desert area.

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