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MartinXYZ, do games w Starfield, is it getting review bombed?

When is the next Mass Effect coming out?

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Not soon enough 😭 Probably won’t be what we want from it anyways, they’ll take all the worst parts of Andromeda and leave the good on the cutting room floor, somehow.

MartinXYZ,

I fear you’re right, but as long as the franchise is alive there’s a chance they make it right some day.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

I’d love it if the franchise had an XCOM style entry.

mojo, do games w Starfield, is it getting review bombed?

Gamers love to throw tantrums lol

stopthatgirl7,
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Truth.

Foreplaying, do games w Starfield, is it getting review bombed?

Modders could make starfield in skyrim and imo it’d be a better game.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Doubt.

dylanTheDeveloper, do games w Starfield, is it getting review bombed?
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

I’m having fun zooming around the galaxy as a tough bounty hunter/vanguard. Has all the good bits of Fallout (exploring abandoned buildings, weapon variety, base building etc). I swear people are not even playing the same game with how they describe it.

hyperhopper,

I think you mean pressing buttons in menus to teleport across the galaxy

Pheonixdown,

Yeah, you’re right, they need a “fast travel to tracked quest next location” button so I don’t have to futz with the menus. But at least I’m not arbitrarily waiting several minutes to get to fun whenever I have to go somewhere.

waxsta,

You can fast travel to tracked quest location, I think as long as it’s not a new location. On Xbox you open the main menu/wheel thing, hover over the quests option at the bottom and just press x.

amio, do games w Starfield, is it getting review bombed?

Are user reviews on places like Metacritic or Steam ever relevant? Review bombing happens consistently any time anyone is slightly miffed at something, which in gaming is literally all the time.

I'm not exposed to that many "gamer takes" lately, luckily. I watched a recent dunkey video on Starfield reviews, that had some thumb-headed idiot screaming in falsetto about the pronoun switch (oh, the horror, for such a thing to exist! oh, the humanity!). Other than that I haven't seen that much complaining about that specific thing. While it could still be about that, I also think it could easily be getting underwhelming scores because it's... a bit underwhelming. (So far, anyway, I haven't played a lot yet)

TheQuietCroc,

I think you need to own the game on steam to review it so there’s some gatekeeping there at least

amio,

That should help in theory, but Steam is infamous for this problem, too, so it can't be helping all that much.

CoderKat,

I hate Steam’s review system, though. Binary yes or no is not useful to me. I want to know if a game is good (maybe a play eventually) vs absolutely amazing (where I might prioritize playing it right away). Such granularity is also useful because a 10/10 might be worth it even if it’s not my favourite type of game, but a 7/10 can be very worthwhile if it is the type of game I adore.

It’s a shame that user reviews on sites like Metacritic are just consistent trash. Too many users only know 0 or 10 and the user reviews are often review bombed. I wish regular users could at least give numbers like critics. No professional critic is gonna give a game a 0 because of a handful of problems, for example, but average people will totally give a game a zero for that. Only problem with critics is that they often have a perspective that makes them detached from the average person, since they spend all their time reviewing. Ideally user reviews would fill that gap, but users are incredibly fickle.

Chailles,
@Chailles@lemmy.world avatar

I think Steam’s Yes/No system is the best option we’ve got for user review scores. As you said yourself, for most people, it’s either 0 or a 10. And while granularity can help, it’s worthless when it differs on a user to user basis. One users 5 is another users 7. And is the difference between a 1 and a 2 even remotely the same between a 9 and a 10? Probably not.

The biggest argument I could see is that “Mixed” option where it’s neither option, but I feel like that doesn’t really help anyone overall and is just indecisive.

CoderKat,

At least with 0-10, I know to ignore any review that gives a zero. And usually I’d view 10s as just a binary recommend.

Chailles,
@Chailles@lemmy.world avatar

If you just ignore a score of 0, then why even have it and conversely, why not show the same treatment towards the equally as ridiculous score of a 10?

Callie,
@Callie@pawb.social avatar

Binary yes or no is not useful to me

for the most part it seems to work better than on Metacritic or other review sites with 5-10 star ratings. a lot of people are very unreasonable with 0 star reviews where they’ll give it a 0 for a slight inconvenience even if the game is completely playable

might as well lump the 0-4 star people together on a 10 scale

Bodongs,

Yes, just look at what’s going on with the Warhammer 3 controversy

nostradiel, do games w Starfield, is it getting review bombed?
@nostradiel@lemmy.world avatar

This game is just ridiculous. Overhyped advertising, terrible optimalization, 10 years old graphics, so many loadscreens, plain story, no real space exploration, perk wall to do anything, horrible UI and they call it next gen open world space exploration RPG. I stopped playing after 10 hours so I can make a good assumption but it got only worse and worse. I don’t have time to waste it on this. Even if it starts being more enjoyable later it doesn’t excuse all the issues.

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I feel you. The first 10-15 hours did feel like kind of a slog. I will say, I hit a point where I’m legitimately enjoying the game and things seem to have coalesced in a way they just don’t in earlier game. I’m 20 hours in though. That’s a slow starter if there ever was one.

nostradiel,
@nostradiel@lemmy.world avatar

You’re a patient man. If you enjoy it, that’s good. But that game is not for me. Last game I enjoyed from Bethesda was Oblivion so I’m not much surprised. I’m quite picky…

nico,
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  • circuitfarmer,
    @circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Mostly yes.

    WereCat, do games w Starfield, is it getting review bombed?

    Someone took whelming and placed it above the game

    lustyargonian, (edited ) do games w Starfield from the NPC's Perspective

    Does it contain spoilers?

    Update: it doesn’t

    leftzero,

    No, succulents.

    eV_Ohm,

    Spoiler alert

    SkyNTP, (edited ) do games w Starfield, is it getting review bombed?

    Starfield has fantastic art direction and ambience. The gunplay is really good, perhaps the best gunplay of any RPG, and a surprise coming from Bethesda. Story hits some good beats, and exploration is rewarding, though repetitive about 50% of the time in the typical Bethesda fashion (remember Draugr crypts?).

    That being said, the game has some shortfalls, primarily in the roleplay aspect. The ship building and crew management is good, but it doesn’t feel great, and is sometimes just frustrating, so you never feel truly immersed in your own ship. Lack of low earth orbital and terrestrial flight is immersion breaking (even if players might opt to skip it if it were present) along with the fact that the ship is relegated to being a flying mule and most transportation is basically instant teleportation via menus, which IMO hurts the isolation and exploration RP and challenge. Ship combat is straight up mediocre for a space game in 2023. Gun selection and modding is decent, but far from top tier. I would describe the apparel as a bit on the bland side, few of the clothes and armor pickups made me go: I want to put this on, I’ll look badass (Cyberpunk 2077 syndrome).

    In fact I think starfield shares a lot with Cyberpunk 2077: massive budget, AAA art direction with gameplay spread across so many systems and features that a lot of them leave you wanting more.

    totallymojo,
    @totallymojo@ttrpg.network avatar

    The gunplay is really good

    Is it really though…?

    newthrowaway20,

    I was just thinking this. The gunplay is serviceable.

    Rentlar, do gaming w The Sushi Train

    Organized chaos. Love it.

    taanegl, do games w Starfield, is it getting review bombed?

    There’s something I’d like to call “the Bethesda” bar. It’s basically an industrial bar lower than most. Let’s define what that means:

    • releasing the same game over and over
    • make games so buggy that a release with only a couple hundred of glitches is deemed "polished*
    • ignore progressive development for things like NPC AI
    • put all the money in marketing and hype
    • make the user think they’re getting something new, rather than just another boilerplate game

    I’m sure the story writers did some characters justice, but I won’t be playing this game - especially since Bethesda claims it “can’t run on older hardware”, despite the fact that modders are proving them wrong.

    The Betheada bar is a cancer upon the industry and I view it as consumer facing psy-ops, relying on brain-dead fanboys with nothing going on in their lives to squeal with glee as a new AAA-title is released to fill that void.

    simple,

    Ah yes the “everyone who likes something I don’t like is a brainless zombie” argument, coming from someone who doesn’t like Bethesda and hasn’t even played the game.

    hyperhopper,

    It’s the same game as the last several Bethesda games, no need to play it to criticize it.

    But even watching a few streams and videos is really enough to see even the harsh criticisms are putting it mildly.

    simple,

    It’s obviously vastly different in so many aspects. You realize that Fallout 4, their last mainline game, was 8 years ago?

    oct_opus, do games w Starfield, is it getting review bombed?

    I don’t know why but the game is not fun, I was bored in like 2 hours… the controls were a mess and everything looks tinted and hard to see.

    Add to that the poor optimisation on PC. I’m going to pass on that one

    InternetTubes,

    That is definitely not my experience.

    vagrantprodigy,

    My first few hours weren’t fun, and I nearly stopped playing. It started getting fun when I abandoned the main quest and went out on my own.

    Redditiscancer789,

    I can echo that sentiment. The MQL starts really slow and has a lot of exposition overlord as is normal for Bethesda games. Once I started doing side missions for the UC Vanguard and “pimped my ride” xzibit style I got hooked.

    thorbot,

    this is the way

    dylanTheDeveloper,
    @dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

    Exactly what I experience in every Bethesda game. Boring ass main quest line where a bunch of British people telling me about starsigns or some shit and then I joined the vanguard and never touched the main plot again because exploding pirates and space hobos while exploring planets is where it’s at.

    Boiglenoight, do games w Starfield, is it getting review bombed?

    It’s janky as hell, but the game I’ve played the most this year. Take that for what you will.

    iheartneopets,

    I mean… Have you played many others?

    AssPennies,

    They played some minesweeper for 10 minutes.

    dylanTheDeveloper,
    @dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s crack for my brain

    Carighan, do games w Starfield, is it getting review bombed?
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    To me it’s less about the user reviews, and more about how as now some time is passing, listening to professional reviewers in podcasts etc, more and more the mood turns… tepid?

    It’s not that anyone is underwhelmed. More just… whelmed.

    Thedogspaw, do games w Starfield from the NPC's Perspective
    @Thedogspaw@midwest.social avatar

    This guy make some funny videos I haven’t even played starfield and found the video hilarious

    Meowoem,

    Yeah he’s made a lot of great stuff, you never quite know what you’ll get.

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