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DarkCloud, do games w DOOM can now run on a quantum computer with Quandoom port — seminal FPS blood and gore mixed with spooky action

…are we accidentally going to open a portal to hell by trying to get doom running on something it shouldn’t? Is that how it finally happens?

That would be the Ultimate Doom. Real Doom too.

BlueKey,
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Porting Doom to run in real life.

cm0002,
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This is the way

Naz,

I’m sure people can handle a few alligators and mosquitos spilling out of the portal

EvilBit,

But what if Ron DeSantis steps through?

cm0002,
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cyberic,
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Can we close it before he steps back?

EvilBit,

Aww, Floridian?

edgemaster72, (edited )
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Just in case, we should test it in a safe, extremely remote environment. Mars should be far enough away.

JusticeForPorygon, do games w DOOM can now run on a quantum computer with Quandoom port — seminal FPS blood and gore mixed with spooky action
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

If it can run on a microwave why wouldn’t it run in a fancy future computer?

(Yes I know it’s more complicated than that)

JDPoZ, do games w Steven Spielberg is ‘a big PC Gamer’ — loves shooters, and insists on keyboard and mouse
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There used to be stories (not sure how many were true) of him going to events like E3, Tokyo Game Show, Gamescom, and other developer-centric game conventions.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/70c44ca4-0079-4a20-9618-726b130b61f2.jpeg

He also was a key figure / contributor in some old school PC adventure games like Indiana Jones from waaaaay back in the day.

Fedizen, do games w Steven Spielberg is ‘a big PC Gamer’ — loves shooters, and insists on keyboard and mouse

This is one of like 5 celebrities I would vote for if running for president.

Twinklebreeze, do games w Steven Spielberg is ‘a big PC Gamer’ — loves shooters, and insists on keyboard and mouse
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Unpopular opinion, this is the only work of Spielberg’s that I like. I can’t stand his movies.

TheTetrapod,

I find it very difficult to believe that you don’t like a single Spielberg movie, just on a quantity level. He’s made so many at this point, at least one must tickle your fancy.

ByteOnBikes,

Jurassic park? Lame.

Jaws? Unmoving.

Saving Private Ryan? Save me from this bore.

Schindler’s List? Yak yak yak about the Holocaust.

But I will not take slander from the epic masterpiece that is the Animaniacs.

Twinklebreeze,
@Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world avatar

I retract my previous opinion. I forgot about the animaniacs. And freakazoid. But his movies? No thank you.

neuracnu, do games w Steven Spielberg is ‘a big PC Gamer’ — loves shooters, and insists on keyboard and mouse

If your analog control requires your entire hand, it’s interesting.

If your analog control requires several pointing fingers, it’s interesting.

If your analog control requires your thumbs, it’s shit.

Now get the fuck out of my office!

yamanii, do games w Steven Spielberg is ‘a big PC Gamer’ — loves shooters, and insists on keyboard and mouse
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It’s a good input system even better if your mouse has side buttons, the problem is lazy, often japanese devs, ports, I remember Nioh 1.0 having no mouse support at all, you had to use keyboard buttons to rotate the camera, it arrived later with a few updates.

Crashumbc,

I had bought Dark Souls 3 on PS4 but I suck at controllers and couldn’t play it. So I rebought it on PC, I was just the same but worse on a keyboard.

carbonari_sandwich, do games w Steven Spielberg is ‘a big PC Gamer’ — loves shooters, and insists on keyboard and mouse

Steven Spielberg was the producer on Boom Blox for the Wii.

JusticeForPorygon, do games w Steven Spielberg is ‘a big PC Gamer’ — loves shooters, and insists on keyboard and mouse
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Steven Spielberg being based as fuck, as per usual

Spitzspot, do games w Steven Spielberg is ‘a big PC Gamer’ — loves shooters, and insists on keyboard and mouse
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A man of culture.

Stern, do games w Steven Spielberg is ‘a big PC Gamer’ — loves shooters, and insists on keyboard and mouse
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Insists on KBM

A man of culture.

DannyBoy, do games w Expanded Steam gaming compatibility likely coming to Arm chips with hundreds of Windows games — Valve testing ARM64 Proton compatibility layer

I mentioned this on a related article already but it’d be interesting to see an ARM Steamdeck after seeing the performance and battery life of the Apple desktop chips. I think gaming will eventually go the way of ARM.

steventhedev, do games w Expanded Steam gaming compatibility likely coming to Arm chips with hundreds of Windows games — Valve testing ARM64 Proton compatibility layer

From what I’ve understood of this - it’s transpiling the x86 code to ARM on the fly. I honestly would have thought it wasn’t possible but hearing that they’re doing it - it will be a monumental effort, but very feasible. The best part is that once they’ve gotten CRT and cdecl instructions working - actual application support won’t be far behind. The biggest challenge will likely be inserting memory barriers correctly - a spinlock implemented in x86 assembly is highly unlikely to work correctly without a lot of effort to recognize and transpile that specific structure as a whole.

BorgDrone,

it’s transpiling the x86 code to ARM on the fly. I honestly would have thought it wasn’t possible

Apple’s been doing it for years. They try to do ahead of time transpiling wherever they can but they also do it on-the-fly for things like JITed code.

steventhedev,

I thought FAT binaries don’t work like that - they included multiple instruction sets with a header pointing to the sections (68k, PPC, and x86)

Rosetta to the best of my understanding did something similar - but relied on some custom microcode support that isn’t rooted in ARM instructions. Do you have a link that explains a bit more in depth on how they did that?

BorgDrone,

Fat binaries contain both ARM and x86 code, but I was referring to Rosetta, which is used for x86-only binaries.

Rosetta does translation of x86 to ARM, both AOT and JIT. It does translate to normal ARM code, the only dependency on a Apple-specific custom ARM extension is that the M-series processors have a special mode that implements x86-like strong memory ordering. This means Rosetta does not have to figure out where to place memory barriers, this allows for much better performance.

So when running translated code Apple Silicon is basically an ARM CPU with an x86 memory model.

steventhedev,

That makes a lot of sense - I wonder if they also do the SIGSEGV trick like HotSpot to know when they need to JIT the next chunk of instructions

M500,

There is an open source project that already does this a bit called box86 and box64.

I think you can find videos of people running Skyrim on arm chips like phones or maybe raspberry pi 5.

They don’t run well, but with more powerful chips and valves experience and money, I’m sure they can do it.

steventhedev,

But does it run Doom? Using CMOV instructions only?

Blum0108,
LainTrain, do games w Expanded Steam gaming compatibility likely coming to Arm chips with hundreds of Windows games — Valve testing ARM64 Proton compatibility layer

A natural next step is to make a Steam Deck Mini of some sort once the compat is good enough for at least a hundred games or so.

poke,

The goal could also be PC gaming on a standalone VR headset.

simple, do games w AMD deprioritizing flagship gaming GPUs: Jack Hyunh talks new strategy against Nvidia in gaming market

That’s one way to admit they couldn’t catch up to Nvidia.

vorpuni,
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Not necessarily a bad thing if they can make the prices lower, if most people end up buying cheaper but adequate hardware developers will have an incentive to make their games work with that hardware. We have seen what games with NVidia partnerships ended up with in terms of bugs with ATI GPUs but aren’t those problems less severe now?

simple,

Definitely not a bad thing, I’d love more competition in the mid-range because so far AMD GPUs recently have basically been slightly worse than Nvidia at slightly lower prices. I still think GPUs like the 4060 are way too expensive, so if AMD actually undercuts them it could be nice for everyone.

ms_lane,

Very strange way of saying RDNA4 chiplets simply didn’t work.

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