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UrLogicFails, do gaming w Microsoft addresses the huge Xbox leaks: here’s Phil Spencer’s full memo

I do find it a little interesting that Phil Spencer is ignoring the content of the leaks and instead just focusing on the fact the documents are out of date. I would imagine the contents of the leaks are likely still pretty close to accurate, even if plans have changed a little, as a result.

I also wonder if Xbox will use the reaction to the leaks to determine potential changes going forward (ie: reactions to the console being all digital, reactions to the next gen console processor, etc).

navi,
@navi@lemmy.tespia.org avatar

This was an internal email, not a PR comment.

Jagermo,

Ideally, you would have internal PR and crisis comms draft such a mailing, because you plan that it gets leaked. He probably saw it once to sign off on, but it was writen by comms.

Source: this is textbook crisis pr

NekomimiNebula,
@NekomimiNebula@beehaw.org avatar

You generally don’t want to confirm leaks as being true, so you’ll either not say anything about it (this was an internal memo, not a public post) or you’ll say something along the lines of “These things are subject to change and don’t reflect the final product”

SenorBolsa,
@SenorBolsa@beehaw.org avatar

I also wonder if Xbox will use the reaction to the leaks to determine potential changes going forward (ie: reactions to the console being all digital, reactions to the next gen console processor, etc).

Almost certainly, make lemonade and all that, it can be very valuable feedback it just wouldn’t have been worth telegraphing your 5 year plan.

NocturnalMorning, do games w Microsoft addresses the huge Xbox leaks: here’s Phil Spencer’s full memo

So they’re sorry people didn’t like the idea? Is that the message?

Blaiz0r,

And “please ignore the content of the documents and instead, hey look Starfield is great right!?”

GunnarRunnar,

And funnily enough Starfield being Xbox/PC exclusive is an example why their hoarding is bad for gaming, and why the Activision deal shouldn't pass.

TheEntity,

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  • GunnarRunnar, (edited )

    Why do people behave as if Starfield was the first game not released on PlayStation?

    Who is doing that? It's just blatantly obvious that it would've been released on PlayStation without Microsoft meddling and their games sell a shitload, I mean Skyrim has been chugging along over a decade now. So I'm not really sure how Starfield is irrelevant to Ms buying shit conversation.

    It's not what being an exclusive means (let not get into linguistics here, I mean strictly the gaming industry term). I agree this specific case was anticompetitive but framing it as an exclusive just weakens this point in my opinion and allows to shift the debate away from it.

    Away from what? Everyone knows what it means -- or maybe I don't, please enlighten me in that case.

    TheEntity,

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  • GunnarRunnar, (edited )

    It's more like a default platform seeing as even former PlayStation exclusives are slowly getting a PC release as well. And I did call Starfield Xbox/PC exclusive, not just Xbox.

    It's probably not the word to describe what's getting released where and stems from marketing but it's commonly used in gaming so most understand its meaning.

    LostMyRedditLogin,

    PC is another of MS’s platforms with Windows. No shit they’re ok with their games being released on it when consumers are paying over a $100 for a Windows license every few years.

    Chewbacca48, do games w Microsoft’s Phil Spencer says acquiring Nintendo would be ‘a career moment’

    Lol, keep dreaming Microsoft :P

    Granixo, do games w Microsoft’s Phil Spencer says acquiring Nintendo would be ‘a career moment’
    @Granixo@feddit.cl avatar

    Please do it.

    Ninendo is better at anyone’s hands but Nintendo’s.

    GregorGizeh,

    Ah yes, more monopolization please. That sure worked out great every time we tried it

    Granixo,
    @Granixo@feddit.cl avatar

    At least it would be TRYING to have more reach to consumers.

    Nintendo’s strategy of only appealing to kids and only sometimes caring about it’s actual, much larger fanbase isn’t really economically estrategic if you think about it.

    GregorGizeh,

    Seems to work reasonably well for them considering they have been in gaming much longer than Microsoft.

    Granixo,
    @Granixo@feddit.cl avatar

    Because they sell their products at overpriced numbers and their current console is built on 8 year old hardware that even it’s chip makers said it was “outdated” back in 2015.

    Summzashi,

    And? It works great for them lol. What are you on about

    mycodesucks,

    Yeah, and it's sold more units than the PS5 and all iterations of the current XBox combined, at a profit on every unit. Nobody's out there holding a gun to people's heads to buy the Switch, but they sell FAR more than either of their competitors in both hardware AND software. It sounds to me like you're not actually angry at Nintendo, but angry at the majority of customers in the game industry that don't share your disdain for less powerful hardware.

    Granixo,
    @Granixo@feddit.cl avatar

    I don’t have a dissdain for less powerful hardware, i have a disdain for mediocre hardware.

    For me, the peak on 3D graphics was achieved on PS3, X360 and the Wii U.

    Nintendo simply wanted easy cash and went on with (literally) inferior hardware to make the Switch.

    And my main problem with Nintendo is that they refuse to allow easy access to some of their best games.

    Why can’t they do a proper remake/remaster of Majora’s Mask for the current generation?

    Why do they refuse to release Mother 3 outside of Japan?

    When are we gonna get a new StarFox or F-Zero game?

    I think it is clear WHY i have a problem with Nintendo.

    mycodesucks, (edited )

    Let's address these one at a time...

    The hardware is weak, but the market has spoken and to them at least, it doesn't matter. If it DID matter, people wouldn't buy them. Why would Nintendo spend the extra money when consumers have already decided they're going to buy it in droves anyway? So they can spend more on manufacturing and make less profit? Yes, they wanted easy cash. What responsible company doesn't? It doesn't make any sense to spend a dime more on producing a product than what your customers demand. The limitations of the Switch are the fault of consumers who buy it, not Nintendo's. If Microsoft could sell the same number of units Nintendo can by making a game system that cost $50 to manufacture and ran on 386, you can be damn sure they would too. I completely understand your anger - I've had to spend the last 20 years watching flocks of people buy inferior, overpriced Apple products and rave about how great they are. But like Nintendo, Apple only does it because the consumers let them get away with it. Your complaint is misdirected when it should be targeted at the customer base. But good luck teaching happy people who don't know any better that the thing they like is bad. It's not a great use of your time.

    All of your other problems are perfectly reasonable, but if you think Microsoft's plan if they buy Nintendo is to drop everything and start porting old titles or working on a new Starfox game, I'm afraid you're going to be disappointed. Like Disney buying Star Wars, get ready for annual, mediocre entries in your favorite series cranked out by a revolving door of existing teams to maximize output. After a couple years of half-baked Mario and Zelda games, they'll stop selling in the numbers Microsoft wants, and after the golden goose is dead, they'll dissolve any remaining Nintendo assets into their larger acquisitions structure, lay off a bunch, and put the name in the vault while they look for something else to cannibalize.

    fibojoly,

    So like the vast majority of PCs still run on 1060 instead of whatever the latest shit is? Sounds pretty reasonable, especially if you want mobile gaming.

    Granixo,
    @Granixo@feddit.cl avatar

    I personally run on a GTX 750 Ti and a Core 2 Duo myself. 🧐

    But i’ll admit that i’m a maniac who uses a dedicated sound card 🎵 and a gold rated 550W power supply for max performance.

    Muffi,

    Microsoft wouldn’t run Nintendo. They buy shit up and let it die a slow death… Poor old Skype, Minecraft and Nokia can testify among many other.

    Granixo, (edited )
    @Granixo@feddit.cl avatar

    I can absolutely confirm Nokia.

    I do know lots of people who do still use Skype though, and about Minecraft, you just need to go to Youtube to see that it’s still pretty active.

    Never_Sm1le, do games w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster
    @Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id avatar

    Let’s hope the remaster implement all the good Skyrim thing and not just an ai-scaled-graphic port. I miss Shivering Isle

    hal_5700X, (edited ) do gaming w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster
    @hal_5700X@lemmy.world avatar

    I have a bad feeling about an Oblivion and Fallout 3 remaster. Due to the last two games they made. Fallout 76 is trash, and Starfield is mediocre. I hope the remasters are good.

    lustyargonian, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new gyro controller

    They can do a Duracell themed one with this design lol.

    ILikeBoobies, do gaming w The Elder Scrolls VI will skip PS5 and isn’t coming until at least 2026

    That puts it at “at least” 15 years after the last entry in the series

    Hard to imagine it will have much of a fan base

    d3Xt3r,

    But Bethesda could very well release a Skyrim Extra Special Edition in the interim, and fans will lap it up, no doubt. Jokes aside, there are many large fan-projects in the works which fans are looking forward to, such such as OpenMW, Skyblivion and Skywind, not to mention more “normal” mods for Skyrim itself, so I doubt the interest in the franchise is going away any time soon.

    millie,

    To be fair, Baldur’s Gate 1 and 2 came out in the 90s.

    ILikeBoobies,

    I would have attributed it’s success to the success of Divinity and DnD

    jsdz, do gaming w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster

    originally set for fiscal year 2022

    Perhaps they abandoned the idea when they heard about Skyblivion.

    Perfide,

    Starfield is also set for fiscal year 2022 in these leaks, though. Fairly safe to say everything was pushed back 2 years.

    buru5, do games w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster
    @buru5@lemmy.world avatar

    please don’t tease me

    Praxis_Jack, do games w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster
    @Praxis_Jack@lemmy.film avatar

    I heard the rumor of oblivion remaster but the only thought I had was why not Morrowind? As someone who’s only heard of how good it is but never played im curious cause it seems like aside from Skyrim Morrowind was everyone’s favorite elder scrolls

    raptir,

    Honestly there are so many great mods for Morrowind that it doesn’t need a remaster. You can get it looking pretty decent.

    hedgehog,

    Are there any mods that add voiceovers to dialog?

    GreenSkree, (edited )
    @GreenSkree@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes, but it only works with the original client. Doesn’t appear to work with OpenMW, yet, which is superior in many ways now.

    exscape,
    @exscape@kbin.social avatar

    Skyblivion and Skywind are a thing. Hopefully they'll be released at some point too though...

    mindbleach,

    Especially since Oblivion seems to work fine on modern Xboxen. Back on reddit, all the Morrowind first-timers were using OpenMW, and all the Oblivion first-timers were playing on console somehow.

    shiveyarbles, do gaming w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster

    Was that the one with the really stupid conversation meter

    bunny_funeral, do games w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster
    @bunny_funeral@lemmy.world avatar

    if they fix how asinine the leveling system is i’d be interested.

    rodolfo,

    leveling system it’s so that I start a new game once in a while just to get 100 EVERYWHERE. I’ve already fucked it up at arrows tutorial.

    corrupts_absolutely,

    im sure its the one thing they keep

    muhyb, do gaming w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster

    I see Microsoft playing a safe card here.

    WagnasT, do gaming w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster

    I wish I could forget oblivion so I could experience it the first time again. Emerging from prison after that long tutorial. Spending hours in complicated oblivion gates.

    spoiler___Realizing that Martin is the protagonist and you’re a side character

    And the shivering fucking isles. The butterflies.

    SheeEttin,

    Well, there goes that twist.

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