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SweetCitrusBuzz, do gaming w BDS calls for boycott of Microsoft and Xbox gaming products over alleged Israeli military connections
@SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org avatar

Will this finally mean developers stop using github? We can only hope.

scrubbles,
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God so many projects are completely dependent on it, and we have seen now while rare, there are cases where repos will be taken down. At least have one backup somewhere. I run my own forgejo and mirror a lot of them, but the owners should have a mirror somewhere

SweetCitrusBuzz,
@SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org avatar

Yeah, really more open source products need to move to the fediverse through forgejo which would make them a lot harder to take down ioo.

Tired of GitHub being the Defacto despite its ties to ICE, stealing open source code through copilot, not allowing contributions from certain countries, and now this.

When will developers learn? Github is not on their side.

dreadbeef, do gaming w BDS calls for boycott of Microsoft and Xbox gaming products over alleged Israeli military connections

Thank goodness I switched to Linux

ThunderWhiskers, do games w BDS calls for boycott of Microsoft and Xbox gaming products over alleged Israeli military connections
@ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world avatar

Fuuuuuccckkk

brrt, do games w BDS calls for boycott of Microsoft and Xbox gaming products over alleged Israeli military connections

You know what would help? Steam releasing a console. Valve, please just do what you did with the Steam Deck and put it in a box, offer 2-3 variations of specs and refresh them every 3-5 years.

Nibodhika,

They can even call them something cool like Steam Machines

FoolishAchilles,

“Steam engines”

Nibodhika,

Whoosh?

AmazingAwesomator, do games w BDS calls for boycott of Microsoft and Xbox gaming products over alleged Israeli military connections

use linux. that will remove everything microsoft.

i made the change a few years back, and my wife made the change a few months ago.

WR5,
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Well except for any Xbox peripherals such as controllers, or games published or made by studios owned by Microsoft. It’s not just Windows OS.

Nima,
@Nima@leminal.space avatar

my xbox controller works fine on linux. and I don’t feel the need to stay for xbox exclusive software anymore. this isnt 1998. Software comparable or better than microsoft-made applications and programs are numerous now. you can choose freely. and proton is extremely powerful now.

the world needs to move on from windows and microsoft. its time.

WR5, (edited )
@WR5@lemmy.world avatar

I agree with all of this, my point is your Xbox controller is a Microsoft product? And if you purchase or play any games owned by Microsoft, they are also Microsoft products? So you would need to boycott all of that as well. That is just a much larger net cast than just not using Windows.

amino,

BDS does not imply you stop using whatever you already own. it’s about preventing future purchases

WR5,
@WR5@lemmy.world avatar

Again, agreed. The original poster said “use Linux, that will remove everything Microsoft”. That is disingenuous, because you can use Linux and still purchase Microsoft products compatible with Linux. So my point was not to toss your existing items. However, you cannot replace your existing physical Microsoft products, purchase new digital content, or support any of Microsoft software in addition to switching from Windows. I didn’t imply anything about what you may already own.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

Divest? Sell?

amino,

institutions should divest from future and present contracts. most consumers don’t have contracts with Microsoft. selling your electronics doesn’t hurt them in any way nor is that something that BDS asks for on their website:

bdsmovement.net/microsoft

CosmoNova,

Glad I‘ve waited for the Switch 2 pro controller to come out. I‘m in need of a new one and Xbox probably would‘ve been my second choice. And yes I‘ve looked into 8bitdio and what not, but they‘re not cheap either and I was happy with my switch pro for 7 years until recently.

WR5,
@WR5@lemmy.world avatar

I mean Nintendo isn’t really pro-consumer either. I’m not sure if they donate or support genocide, but they are pretty capitalistic to a fault.

CosmoNova,

You criticize capitalism, yet you participate in it. Curious. /s

If you know a manufacturer that‘s handing out world class controllers for free let me know, but otherwise I didn‘t ask.

gamermanh,

but otherwise I didn‘t ask

No, but you did say something pretty stupid, as they pointed out

CosmoNova,

Interesting you felt the need to tell me that instead of lecturing the person comparing Nintendo‘s practices with supporting a genocide. Very unique priorities indeed.

monarch,

What do you like about the switch pro controller? it has always felt cheap to me.

LunarLoony,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

The 8bitdo Ultimate 2C is very cheap as controllers go, and is also one of my favourites. Certainly my go-to for general purpose

umbrella, (edited )
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  • WR5,
    @WR5@lemmy.world avatar

    That is true.

    duchess,

    The most cowardly and entitled boycott is certainly the one where you still consume without spending money.

    MaliciousKebab,

    Better than not boycotting though.

    Doorbook,

    So, the company you supporting publicly uses torrent, to feed its AI model, to Murder on camera, children, women, fist aid worker, journalist and innocents people. Yet, you call someone using the pirated content weak?

    duchess,

    Video games are a luxury and it should be easy to avoid them.

    gamermanh,

    And piracy means that you can enjoy them without having to support whatever bad shit happened to make them so you don’t need to avoid them

    Pretty simple stuff, really

    Toribor,
    @Toribor@corndog.social avatar

    These days 8BitDo controllers are superior to first party Xbox controllers and sold for cheaper.

    WR5,
    @WR5@lemmy.world avatar

    For sure, there are lots of options for controllers for PC!

    MoonlightFox,

    Yep, I have the 2.4ghz dongle ones with hall effect sensors and charging stand. Its just better and cheaper. The dongle is so that I don’t have to sync, I kinda like the whole plug in and it just works.

    SeekPie,

    Are there any with gyro?

    nyamlae,

    Well, it’s not so simple for gaming. People who don’t already own a gaming PC will need to drop a lot of money to buy one, and then get used to gaming on Linux (which can be janky, as I’m sure you know).

    But, it’s worth it. Our convenience shouldn’t cost us our humanity.

    AmazingAwesomator,

    gaming on linux is not janky. it is quite nice, and it leaves all of the MS UX nightmares at home.

    i agree theat computers can be expensive, and are getting more expensive. if its for gaming, the games will be waaaaaaay cheaper, so one will have to look at the savings in the long run (especially by not having a subscription to use the product)

    Elevator7009,

    I game on a former Windows 11 laptop that now runs Linux. I have never owned a “real” gaming PC in my entire life and do not intend to drop any money on one. However, not having enough money to drop on a new laptop to run Linux because you have a more pressing need than gaming to have to still use Windows is still understandable. It’s less than the full-blown fancy gaming PC with its GPUs, but it’s still money.

    Not really facing any jank myself thanks to the whole Steam Deck compatibility thing, but I also did have to tinker with one game a bit to make it work. I have had one game demo for a small indie not run so far. Other than that, very smooth experience.

    abfarid, do games w BDS calls for boycott of Microsoft and Xbox gaming products over alleged Israeli military connections
    @abfarid@startrek.website avatar

    Why is the dpad censored?

    MrQuallzin,

    That’s just what it looks like now

    spooky2092,

    Wow, what MBA thought that was a cool look?

    pycorax,

    It’s so that’ it’s easier to perform directional actions. I personally like it from a usability standpoint.

    Resol,
    @Resol@lemmy.world avatar

    The original Duke, S controller, and Xbox 360 controllers all have similar D-pads. I actually forgot they switched to a traditional one.

    givesomefucks, do games w BDS calls for boycott of Microsoft and Xbox gaming products over alleged Israeli military connections

    Part of why it’s so ridiculous some Americans are legally prohibited from participating in BDS, is people only know if you tell them.

    You can just not buy it and never mention why.

    And unfortunately, lots of people aren’t even aware it’s illegal:

    newsweek.com/pro-palestinian-protest-states-colle…

    suite403,

    We’re so freeeeee!

    Katana314,

    This whole thing has erupted on my radar in the past month ever since they abducted the girl from Tufts.

    HOW does this genocidal state have such an insane stranglehold on our country?

    Now I’m getting YouTube ads to demonize Hamas; apparently their effort to “pull people back” and get people sympathetic for October 7 hostages. I AM sympathetic to the hostages!…So why is Israel bombing them??

    givesomefucks,

    HOW does this genocidal state have such an insane stranglehold on our country?

    Before AIPAC there was another Israeli organization that donated to politicians.

    After years of fighting a committee ruled that it had to register as a foreign agent.

    So Israel created AIPAC and then gave Max donations to the people on the committee that decides who has to register as a foreign agent.

    Which is why AIPAC has never had to register.

    As both parties continually got rid of campaign finance law, AIPAC kept increasing what they gave, and started throwing insane money at anyone critical of Israel in the primary when it’s cheap.

    Over decades they’ve bought the only two options and ensured the only two options were peo-Israel over anything else

    The worst part …

    They’re not the only organization, even foreign country. Doing this to ensure they always win.

    Luckily while Ken Martin does have a pro-Israel bias, while running Minnesota he was one of the few state chairs who refused to work against anti-genocide Dems in primaries or generals. Which resulted in Minnesota being one of the progressive strongholds despite no one guessing it would shake out that way a decade ago.

    So I want to be clear:

    The people fucking up the DNC for decades is gone, we need to support the new DNC to keep it out of their hands. The people running the DNC six months ago wants the current DNC to take the fall so they can move back in.

    ninjaphysics, do gaming w BDS calls for boycott of Microsoft and Xbox gaming products over alleged Israeli military connections

    I’d like to think I’m pretty decent at sticking to boycotts, but holy hell, my work platform is Microsoft and their products, and I run gaming servers for my friends online and play through game pass. This is going to be so hard for people to step back and not use their platforms and software if they’re in it like me. Not sure how to proceed.

    thejml,

    Oh the flip side, I have a Bazzite desktop rig running Proton/Steam for gaming and a PS5 and Switch. I’m not in the market for an Xbox and have bought one since the OG… so I’ll just keep not buying their stuff I guess? I feel like boycotting things I’m not buying anyway doesn’t really send a message.

    ninjaphysics,

    You’re at least making up for my inability to step away from it atm. I wouldn’t have bought into the environment had it not been for my partner, and work of course. I grew up on PS and PC gaming, just recently started using Xbox. Damn it.

    Strawberry,

    No they are not

    amino,

    as a bazzite user, it’s kinda ironic that they’re dependent on GitHub cloud to keep their updates going. I wonder if they have a non-apartheid version?

    trevor, (edited )

    The problem with replacing GitHub with something that isn’t owned by genocidal Microsoft is that GitHub provides a fuckload of free compute via their runners. If you migrate away from that to another smaller service, suddenly you’ve got to pay for your automated builds (or lose them).

    I fear that many FOSS projects simply wouldn’t be popular if they had to be built manually from source by end users.

    amino,

    maybe they could use a donation model like fediverse instances do

    amino,

    start with the stuff that’s easy to get rid of and the rest will snowball down the line.

    as for your workplace using Microsoft, nobody expects you as an individual to force your company to stop using them. the best way to achieve that in my opinion is through unions and collective actions.

    ninjaphysics,

    Smart approach to go to the union, didn’t think to do that. Thanks!

    amino,

    yeah, a bunch of unions have already put out support statements for BDS. list them as an example for your own union to follow

    Kwakigra,
    @Kwakigra@beehaw.org avatar

    It doesn’t have to be all or nothing, because in that case it usually ends up being nothing. If you have the desire to limit what you described in any way you can as much as you can, it’ll be something. If everyone does as much as they can, it’ll be a huge something.

    geneva_convenience, do gaming w BDS calls for boycott of Microsoft and Xbox gaming products over alleged Israeli military connections
    @geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml avatar

    Gamers rise up

    arschflugkoerper,
    @arschflugkoerper@feddit.org avatar

    bottom text

    async_amuro, do games w Marvel Rivals season 2 invites you to party it up with Emma Frost, features a very Dalek-sounding Ultron
    @async_amuro@lemm.ee avatar

    Gonna be that guy… he sounds more like a Cyberman 🤓

    biggestmapfan, do games w GeoGuessr is making its way to Steam next month after almost 12 years of sticking it out as a browser game

    Amazing news! It’s great to see GeoGuessr coming to Steam! 🥰 This should make playing on Steam Deck much smoother. I just hope there’s a free option (even with ads). On the web, most people have switched to free alternatives like FreeGuessr. If they go with a monthly subscription on Steam, I’m not sure it will work.

    warm, do games w GeoGuessr is making its way to Steam next month after almost 12 years of sticking it out as a browser game

    Was good until they hiked the prices, removed free play and ruined the interface. Would highly recommend Geotastic instead.

    biggestmapfan,

    Geotastic is definitely a great alternative! If I could add another it would be https://freeguessr.com/. You can turn off street names, it doesn’t have Ads and you can play No Move or Blink Mode directly from the game.

    warm,

    There's a few, like Openguessr too. But they are not really Geoguessr alternatives in the same way Geotastic is, with all the community features, I also like the transparency Geotastic has with running costs, I can donate to cover my own usage without overspending for profiteering like is the case with Geoguessr now.

    Safipok, do games w GeoGuessr is making its way to Steam next month after almost 12 years of sticking it out as a browser game

    Volatility of a business based on Google Maps seems to be very painful from observing GeoGuessr.

    narc0tic_bird,

    Yeah, GeoGuessr is an extreme example as Google basically did 95% of the work for them. Having to image large chunks of the world would mean a huge investment and I highly doubt GeoGuessr would even exist without Google Maps.

    If Google would double their API pricing tomorrow there’s very little GeoGuessr can do except maybe switch to Apple Maps (they offer an API, not sure they offer one for their “street view” data though).

    Th3D3k0y,

    I mean they do require a subscription now to play GeoGuessr, so could be they are planning

    SgtAStrawberry,

    From what I remember the subscription was added because Google raised the price of the API.

    Lootboblin,
    @Lootboblin@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah, this easy pass.

    VitoRobles,

    Haha! You’re in the Gulf of Mexico!

    [Depending on where you’re located determines if this is a right or wrong answer]

    Safipok,

    Companies are subject to the places they operate in and not following it could have consequences. I remember Guardian having to censor stuff due to UK court order. My gripe is that they are going diving into the military contract business that they had control over but still got into due to money.

    biggestmapfan,

    Yeah, considering that the whole game is dependent on Google Maps, they can end it any time. I just hope GeoGuessr has a good partnership with them. I saw somewhere that they pay millions per year for the maps!

    halcyoncmdr, do games w GeoGuessr is making its way to Steam next month after almost 12 years of sticking it out as a browser game
    @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

    Why?

    Menschlicher_Fehler,
    @Menschlicher_Fehler@feddit.org avatar

    Money.

    halcyoncmdr,
    @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

    They already added a subscription.

    Up front cost cannot cover the ongoing API costs they must be paying for Google Maps. So either this has to be free and just a front end for the same shit, or they’ll still end up net negative.

    warm,

    They are adding a "Steam pass", which doesn't let you play on the web and your web subscription doesnt let you play the Steam version. Just play Geotastic instead.

    Jimmycakes,

    Can run a little bitcoin mine in the background this way

    Kaiserschmarrn,
    @Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org avatar

    Trading Cards and probably TF2 hats.

    wreckedcarzz,
    @wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

    I found out recently that steam now let’s devs create subscriptions as opposed to one-time charges, so it’s 110% that

    Appoxo,
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Ain’t no way I’ll pay that.
    I would have discussed if it meant a one time payment but hell nah.

    KoalaUnknown,

    Google Maps API isn’t free

    Appoxo,
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I mentioned one time pay.
    If it’s that expensive, I can’t help you (or the devs) because I won’t play it then :-)

    mr2meows, do games w Minecraft Gets Major Visual Overhaul With Volumetric Lighting And Enhanced Shadows
    @mr2meows@pawb.social avatar

    inb4 java edition becomes unplayable on older systems even with render distance set to lowest

    FearMeAndDecay,

    Apparently you’ll be able to toggle between the new lighting and the old lighting, so hopefully that isn’t a problem

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