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daggermoon, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

Haven’t played since they removed Linux support. Will never play again.

SoftestSapphic, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like
@SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world avatar

This is why we need copyright laws

In a sensible world we would not allow our society to steal the work of artists and then throw away the artist.

PraiseTheSoup, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

Apex legends? The fully online battle Royale style competitive shooter? Can anyone tell me why a game like this needs a “character writer” anyway? I’ve never played it so maybe there’s some grand story I don’t know about, but to me this sounds like writing a character for Counter Strike which I think we all agree would be completely pointless.

telllos,

I’ll try to explain, I’m not a specialist in the lore of Apex legends. But the game is based in the world of Titanfall. It released in 2019 with a few characters. Each 1 or 2 season bringing a new characters with new abilities and background in the story. They have done a pretty good job so far and I really enjoy each characters.

CS at least back in the day didn’t have a class based gameplay, each characters had the same abilities. So I guess it doesn’t really compare.

DragonTypeWyvern,

It’s more like asking why you need a writer for an Overwatch character than CS. The characterization is half of the point and, more importantly, sales on cosmetics, compared to CS/Halo/MW/Whatever

ArchmageAzor, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

I think at this points it’s better to not join up with a large developer or publisher. The indie market has better job security.

MadBigote,

Or better yet, organize like the Hollywood actors have WGA.

RedditIsDeddit, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

We should pay way more attention to other industries.

simop_jo, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

That’s sad and disgusting.

eestileib, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

I was gonna get snooty about being an indie game buyer, then I remembered that I bought a Larian game developed in partnership with Hasbro, so my snootiness will have to wait for another day.

Ibuthyr,

Hasbro is a requirement for the D&D license, no?

Larian at least went against the grain of the AAAAA Industry and delivered something truly wonderful.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Sure, but they’re still a AAA studio since BG3 is a AAA game. AAA studios can absolutely create wonderful games.

ChickenAndRice, do games w Skin Deep review - Blendo's first game in seven years is a small triumph.
@ChickenAndRice@sh.itjust.works avatar

I remember having fun playing the demo, but felt the humor was too Taika Waititi-ish for my tastes.

Glad to see it’s out, of course.

CaptainBasculin, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

Had over a thousand hours in Apex, while I quit way back because of different reasons, their actions definitely are not going to bring me back

Tuxman, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

And then they feed the documents to a LLM and iterate over it

Tattorack, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

My question is when workers in game studios start to make unions. It’s a massive industry and the people actually making the games are constantly fucked over.

kattfisk,

Many years ago. But as you said, it’s a big industry, and the US is not an easy place to unionize in.

buddascrayon,

and the US is not an easy place to unionize in.

Moreso now than ever before.

Bytemeister,

The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time to plant a tree is right now.

But I don’t think that advice includes people staring at a fast approaching wildfire…

Initiateofthevoid,

Now can be both the second-best-time to plant a tree and the first-best-time to grab a bucket of water!

Remember everyone, the forest is on fire and there’s not many places to run. The fires of climate change affects the entire world, and this administration and the wealthy that back them will gleefully pour fuel on the flames and let your house burn.

You can stand around begging for rain, asking why the landlord didn’t fix the sprinklers or why he never checked the fire extinguishers or why he’s hiding under his desk clutching the cash register for dear life…

Or you can grab a bucket.

SabinStargem,

Funny thing about wildfires: the ashes allow a new generation of flora to take root. It will suck for us, but the children of tomorrow might have unions, vacations, and universal healthcare by default.

I can dream of a future, even if it won’t be mine to enjoy.

FordBeeblebrox,

That’s how I feel when I watch Star Trek. I won’t be alive to see the Phoenix warp into space but I’m hopeful future generations get there.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, but there are also European developers. Such as Ubisoft, which previously had major issues with harassment, and probably still does. If they have a union, it certainly isn’t a powerful one.

kattfisk,

The French trade union Solidaires Informatique has pursued both criminal and civil charges. Not sure how much that accomplished, but at the very least a bunch of assholes were fired or resigned, so they weren’t completely ineffective.

3dmvr,

in my head its because its an industry where going solo is viable and if they arent working at a company thats their goal so they have full contol over the vision and make all the money and one day they want to exert the same creative control over others and get overtime/overwork out of them

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

The irony is that becoming a solo dev is rarely feasible and even more rarely leads to a product that pays up more than just working elsewhere.

That immediately makes people point to success stories, like Stardew Valley. Dunno about others, but I don’t have a family + girlfriend to sustain me for 4+ years, nor am I blinded by the dream possibility of reaching millions of sales when so many games struggle to reach 10k sales.

Initiateofthevoid,

They are!

Recent and huge progress on that front. It’s an industry wide union, and apparently even recently laid-off workers can join.

drunkpostdisaster,

It will be used to justify raises AAA prices even more. Not that i care but it will be interesting to see.

pulido, do games w Skin Deep review - Blendo's first game in seven years is a small triumph.

Man, what is it about PC gamers that lets them tolerate mediocre garbage?

is it conditioning? Being raised playing games that are good ‘in theory’ over games that are good in actuality?

I dunno, it feels like a lot of PC gamers are ‘proud’ to play esoteric crap. They view it as a badge of honor, for some reason.

Glad I started recognizing these things for what they are, though. Nobody else seems to be willing to discuss it on the internet, but there are plenty of people in real life who get it immediately.

FozzyOsbourne,

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  • pulido,

    Not really.

    Do you think all criticism comes from a place of anger? Lol.

    FozzyOsbourne,

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  • pulido,

    Nah. You just want to paint me as mad because you can’t tolerate criticism.

    Gonna block ya now.

    regdog,

    Ah yes, the old “I am not mad - you are mad!”

    pulido,

    He’s the one throwing a tantrum and calling me names because I don’t like what he likes.

    I’m guessing you’re taking his side because you also have low standards. I see it all the time and don’t expect more at this point.

    gamermanh,

    mediocre garbage

    So, because a game doesn’t have AAA graphics it’s suddenly bad? Maybe try playing it a bit before you say something utterly stupid next time

    pulido,

    Err, you are literally making up your own words then pretending I said them and calling me stupid for it.

    Man, it’s sad watching you people play leapfrog with yourself, but it’s yet another reason to not take you people seriously.

    gamermanh,

    you are literally making up your own words then pretending I said them and calling me stupid for it.

    You refused to give your reasoning, so I provided one. It’s obvious you haven’t played it, so I went with graphics

    Shall I change it to “im pathetically angry at everything waaaaaaa” instead, as better befits you?

    pulido,

    Lol, you really are upset because someone dares to have higher standards than you.

    It’s okay if you like what you like.

    gamermanh,

    upset

    Wrong

    have higher standards than you.

    It’s quite clear you have no standards, it’s ok to be an angry little bitch if you want

    pulido,

    It’s quite clear you have no standards

    Yeah, that’s why what’s good enough for you isn’t good enough for me?

    it’s ok to be an angry little bitch if you want

    Lol, and you’re not upset?

    gamermanh,

    that’s why what’s good enough for you isn’t good enough for me?

    No, we established that with the following comment I made: you being nothing more than an angry little incel bitch. Which is ok, you just wanna rage at whatever other people like, go for it. Well all point and laugh at you for being pathetic, we all win

    pulido,

    Ok.

    And you’re not mad.

    prole,

    Taste is subjective, and all your comment does is make you look like an asshole. Just saying. Thought I’d point that out.

    qarbone,

    What are your issues with the game? Have you played it?

    Detren,

    It’s a good game sir.

    tagoth, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

    This is why we need to have 90 dollar games! /s

    Apex is literally free to play

    MyDarkestTimeline01,

    Don’t be pedantic you know what they meant.

    Empricorn,

    The exact opposite of what they said?

    EnderLaw, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

    TL,DR: Company fires hundreds of workers. CEO makes $25.6 million.

    peoplebeproblems, do games w Apex Legends writer gets laid off 24 hours after the character she wrote is revealed, because that's what the games industry in 2025 looks like

    TIL Apex had writing behind it

    Soggy,

    It’s set in the Titanfall universe, there’s lots of lore scattered around. People work hard to integrate a narrative into the level and character designs, to imply plot in incidental dialogue or cinematics, or just literally write text entries that the majority of gamers will never read because only shooting and rare skins trigger their dopamine.

    PraiseTheSoup,

    Nobody asked to have some pointless story injected into their online shooters. I’m pretty sure the people that want world-building and narrative and lore in their games aren’t playing online shooters. I know I’m not.

    Soggy,

    Ok, well, I am. It’s not “pointless story” it’s entertainment and I’m struggling to come up with a game that has zero plot or setting or characterization. Rocket League maybe.

    telllos,

    Honestly developer are making great work with how legends talk to each other during game. It’s always really cool

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