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SalamenceFury, (edited ) do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'
@SalamenceFury@lemmy.world avatar

Adding this to the movement nerfs in BO7 (you can’t ADS while sliding, diving and wall jumping anymore unless you use a perk) this whole thing might have made the devs realize that “oh shit nobody likes mega sweaty movement bullshit other than mega sweats”. No wonder BO6 is kind of a ghost town right now.

Those kids aren’t even good at movement, they just abuse the broken movement mechanics. You can tell they’re awful at it because every time they try to play an actual movement shooter like Titanfall 2 whenever it’s on a huge sale or in a free weekend they get their shit rocked and uninstall after one hour. You’ve not experienced an actual movement demon until you try to shoot at a G100 (max prestige) Titanfall 2 pilot who proceeds to dodge your shots effortlessly, hop all around the map without losing an ounce of momentum just to get you from behind, and shoot you down at Mach 11, while all you can do is look up at them like this:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/44befc69-3b01-40e9-a629-828bdd9f29d7.gif

This is an universal experience for every new player on Titanfall 2. And it’s always super funny.

baldingpudenda,

Lol, I played during a free weekend. I can attest that this was my experience.

SalamenceFury,
@SalamenceFury@lemmy.world avatar

Yep, it’s the universal titanfall 2 newbie experience. Really humbles some people lol

Jayjader, do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'

Having never played a battlefield game, having last played COD when MW2 released: good! Not every game in the same genre needs to play the same way, and I suspect it’s healthier this way for the “soldier shooter” genre to propose different kinds of experiences.

MudMan, do gaming w We can't keep making videogame stories for players who aren't paying attention to them

Yeah, I'm gonna say this person doesn't hate to keep knocking on Veilguard, because that seems to be the one example they can bring up. I mean, there's a cursory name check of Dawntrail, but otherwise... yeah, not sure what games this is talking about other than Dragon Age.

Clair Obscur didn't do that. It went to absolute pains to not do that, in fact, to the point where I find the deceptive twist-building a bit over the top, in retrospect. I wouldn't accuse the CDPR games of going that route. Baldur's Gate does overexplain often, but in their defense the game has a million characters, plot points you go through out of order and a runtime in the hundreds of hours, so I wouldn't change that.

What else is even doing this? I feel like we're back in "AAA sucks" territory where AAA stands in for "this one game I didn't like". Writing in games runs the gamut. I would struggle to find a single defining thing to praise or criticise across the board.

DieserTypMatthias, do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'
@DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml avatar

Just give them Counter-Strike running speeds with slow walk and with crouch.

Deyis,

You’d run faster with your knife out.

Flamekebab, do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'
@Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

Interesting.. I felt like I was the only person that doesn't care for that kind of movement in shooters.

Deyis,

It really depends on the kind of shooter and the average caffeine intake of the people playing it. Works great in Titanfall but doesn’t make sense for Battlefield.

Flamekebab,
@Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

It feels like an additional layer of mechanics that I didn't sign up for. I used it as necessary when playing Titanfall 2 but didn't care for it there either!

RollForInitiative, do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'

What a shitty title. They could just leave out the first part, wouldn’t change the meaning.

Deyis,

They could have taken out “sweaty” and kept the same meaning but that probably wouldn’t have driven the same engagement.

ranandtoldthat,

“Sweaty” has a specific connotation in video games, so it does provide some meaning.

Deyis,

A specifically negative and demeaning connotation which isn’t necessary.

ranandtoldthat,

Maybe? I’m not that deep in “gamer” culture, so I always just thought of it as descriptive of a particular intensity of play that leads to sweaty palms. We all experience that from time to time, some prefer it, others don’t.

t3rmit3,

No, it means the guys who don’t take hygiene seriously. The Cartman Gamers, so to speak.

Vodulas,

No, it means the other. It is typically used in competitive games. The unshowered gamer is kind of an outdated trope at this point.

t3rmit3,

Interesting. TIL

often used interchangeably with “try-hard” as a newer version of the terminology

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Cevilia, do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'

“The Sweaty Movement”

Deyis,

Smells as bad as it sounds.

TabbsTheBat, do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'
@TabbsTheBat@pawb.social avatar

Mm movement :3

lime, do gaming w To the dismay of sweaty 'movement kids,' Battlefield 6 is nerfing Call of Duty sliding and jumping to maintain a 'traditional Battlefield experience'
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a “traditional battlefield experience” for me will always be the guadalcanal map. are we getting that back?

Deyis,

For me, it’s crashing on take-off on Tobruk which I don’t think we’ll ever get back.

nullpotential,

For me it’s getting sniped, respawning, getting sniped, respawning, getting sniped…

Deyis,

You should definitely consider playing Hell Let Loose!

t3rmit3,

Desert Combat was so much fun. Really great memories from that mod.

JillyB,

Is that the one with the A10 and cluster bombs?

t3rmit3,

I think so. I was mostly a chopper pilot flying blackhawks so I don’t recall most of the fixed wing aircraft, but an A10 would make sense.

JillyB,

If it’s not a solid 10 minutes to load a map on my parents e-machines PC, it doesn’t feel like Battlefield.

InfiniteHench, do games w Bungie CEO Pete Parsons retires: With Destiny 2 sentiment at an all-time low and pressure from Sony growing, Parsons has decided it's time to 'pass the torch' and head for an exit
@InfiniteHench@lemmy.world avatar

Good, the game needs some fresh leadership. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that on the same day they announced this, Bungie also announced that all previous season passes will soon return to a kiosk in-game and you can finish them at any time (yes like the Helldivers model). Plus, players who never got the pass before will be able to buy them for a pretty reasonable price (around $6 USD I believe).

bigmclargehuge,
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Does this mean that sunsetted content can be played again (ie the original campaign)? If so I would mayhe consider getting back into it. Otherwise I still have no interest in returning

InfiniteHench,
@InfiniteHench@lemmy.world avatar

No, I think Forsaken (Dreaming City) is the oldest content still in the game. If you want to see the old campaign I’m sure there are playthroughs on YouTube you could watch.

bigmclargehuge,
@bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world avatar

Considering I payed to play those campaigns, not watch them on YouTube, I’ll just save my time. Warframe has scratched the Destiny itch for me in recent years while also respecting me as a customer

TwinTitans, do games w Bungie CEO Pete Parsons retires: With Destiny 2 sentiment at an all-time low and pressure from Sony growing, Parsons has decided it's time to 'pass the torch' and head for an exit
@TwinTitans@lemmy.world avatar

Fucked that company to near death. You do not deserve retirement.

WhiteOakBayou, do games w Bungie CEO Pete Parsons retires: With Destiny 2 sentiment at an all-time low and pressure from Sony growing, Parsons has decided it's time to 'pass the torch' and head for an exit

I didn’t know destiny 2 was still going. I played it for like a year after release before getting tired of it but it was fun enough. The only game I’ve played since then was elden ring so I’m not real up on the times

Venicon, do games w Bungie CEO Pete Parsons retires: With Destiny 2 sentiment at an all-time low and pressure from Sony growing, Parsons has decided it's time to 'pass the torch' and head for an exit
@Venicon@lemmy.world avatar

Might be bitter but I lost interest when I bought Destiny years ago and the main campaign just…stopped. To be continued only when buying DLC. Never spent a penny on them since as I believe a game you buy should be the entire thing end to end with additional content available to purchase. I wanted a main storyline with conclusion.

thejoker954,

I lost interest when I first tried Destiny 2 years after it was 1st released and realized they didn’t seem interested in new players.

Too many storylines merging and diverging before you have any idea whats happening.

It was like reading a book (and it’s series) out of order.

TheFeatureCreature,
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I stopped playing when I learned the DLC I paid for would be removed and no longer accessible. I already had some growing negative sentiment towards the game at that point but being outright ripped off was the last straw.

skulblaka,
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Yep. I didn’t have a huge issue with them charging for new DLC. If the DLC is good then fine, devs gotta eat.

When they sunset content that I paid for and tell me it’s no longer accessible, that’s when I dropped the game like a hot potato. Should have requested a refund, actually.

Call_Me_Maple, do games w Bungie CEO Pete Parsons retires: With Destiny 2 sentiment at an all-time low and pressure from Sony growing, Parsons has decided it's time to 'pass the torch' and head for an exit
@Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world avatar

Fuckin guy, completed his little car collection and dipped after leaving Bungie in a worse state than it’s ever been.

rafoix,

Living the dream of shameless profit.

nfreak,
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His replacement’s not much better. Lots of mixed sentiment from past employees, and even though he did acknowledge it with a joke, the “overdelivery” thing is such a red flag to carry.

I quit the game this past fall after literally 12k hours on steam. Huge number of growing reasons, but the top reason has always been the way bungie c-suite treats their devs and their players. One of the most toxic in the industry by a mile.

t3rmit3, do gaming w We can't keep making videogame stories for players who aren't paying attention to them

Exposition != story.

A good story can be (and usually is) told with minimal exposition. AAA games being exposition-fests is a result of game executives and writers infantilising players in the name of “widest audience appeal”.

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