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5714, do games w Rebellion CEO seems kind of awed by major studios making massive videogames: 'How do you organize a game that has 2,000 people working on it?'

Open Source does it all the time, just with a slower pace.

tonytins,
@tonytins@pawb.social avatar

Excluding the “Open Core” projects, those people don’t normally have management breathing down their necks.

vrighter,

open core isn’t open source, imo.

tonytins, (edited )
@tonytins@pawb.social avatar

That’s why I put it in quotes.

magic_lobster_party,

How many open source projects have 2000 concurrent contributors working full time on it?

subignition, do games w Rebellion CEO seems kind of awed by major studios making massive videogames: 'How do you organize a game that has 2,000 people working on it?'
@subignition@piefed.social avatar

The rarest human resource there is: good management.

DragonTypeWyvern,

Or bad management and it’s an inefficient mess that simultaneously breaks its workers.

Kelly, (edited ) do games w Rebellion CEO seems kind of awed by major studios making massive videogames: 'How do you organize a game that has 2,000 people working on it?'

So what I really want is a game that gives me a sense of achievement, and with the vaguest possibility that I actually might finish it. And so it’d be really interesting to know how many games are actually finished, and how many games are just abandoned by what proportion of people.

It can be fun to go to an achievement/trophy tracker and compare the numbers for the awards for first and last story missions.

For GTA5 some numbers are:

For Assassins Creed Odyssey:

RememberTheApollo_, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025
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Been that way for years. There was a brief respite when people were switching to ASIC bitcoin mining and away from GPU intensive mining and you could actually get a GPU for a fair price, retail, non-scalper price gouging.

Now it’s right back to basically unaffordable for a name brand GPU. Literally more than a mortgage payment.

Modern_medicine_isnt,

I wish my mortgage was that low.

RememberTheApollo_,
@RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world avatar

Beats me how much your mortgage is, prices I’m seeing for a 4080 Ti are north of $2500.

Modern_medicine_isnt,

Others were saying $2k… I am thankfully under $2500. Though I forgot insurance is wrapped in my monthly payment. So maybe I am under even $2k. I know rent around here is between $1k and $2k a month for a two bedroom apt though.

HalfSalesman, do games w Baldur's Gate 3 and Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 show that the future of RPGs is in games way more ambitious, weird and unexpected than anything Bethesda and Bioware have to offer

I wish there were more new sci-fi RPGs of that quality.

I do hear CP2077 is good and I keep meaning to play it.

TBH I’ll probably end up enjoying Starfield once I get around to try it as well.

Jumi,

CP2077’s story is nice but short (for an RPG these days) but the meat is in the world and side missions.

JackbyDev,

Doesn’t “nice but short but the meat is in the world and side missions” describe most RPGs nowadays?

Jumi,

I rarely play any new ones to be honest so I’m not sure. CP2077 just feels for me like they didn’t stretch out the main story longer than necessary and put a lot of effort into the world and what’s in it.

Ashtear,

Western-style ones, yeah. High-effort side content is CD Projekt’s MO at this point.

chiliedogg,

As I’ve grown older and busier, I now prefer shorter games. Even when I intentionally try to play games, I may get 2-3 hours a week most weeks. A 100-hour campaign takes me a year to play through.

HalfSalesman,

Is it one of those “play the whole main story and then focus on the side content” situations or “Save the final mission for later because its a proper ending” situations?

pyrha,

the latter, the main story’s final quest lets you know before you start it that’s it’s a point of no return (though you can also just reload a save from before you do it)

ArtemisimetrA,

I’ve heard people take that approach with Starfield and still be very disappointed. If it’s space you want and are ok with creating your own story, Elite Dangerous is getting a pretty big revival

HalfSalesman,

Its mostly just that I want a Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim with a sci-fi setting. A solid story, lots of side-quests, and a dynamic world that reacts to the player. I’d probably enjoy a modern metropolitan criminal setting as well for an RPG like GTA’s settings but Elder-Scrolls/3D-Fallout gameplay but you never see that at all.

Space is cool though.

Ashtear,

I don’t think it’s a super common opinion, but I really liked Starfield’s main story. That said, it completely fails on the dynamic world front. You might be better off with Cyberpunk for now.

Galle_,

I don’t believe you. That game exists, it’s called Starfield, and it failed specifically because of its sci-fi setting and for no other reason.

Mr_Dr_Oink,

It failed because it was boring.

It famously had people saying “once you get past the first 12 hours, it gets good” it had nothing to do with the setting. The sci-fi setting was literally what drew people to play it in the first place…

pyre,

fucking lol.

  • terrible game design
  • zero game direction
  • nonsensical script
  • not even 2 dimensional characters
  • incredibly unlikeable companions
  • bad dialog
  • fallout 4 style fake choices and railroading, only one way to complete most quests,
  • open world" that requires fast travel, completely undercutting exploration
  • immersion breaking loading screens for literally everything, even following cutscenes which aren’t used for bg loading for some reason
  • spaceship fantasy that barely makes use of the spaceship, it’s just a toy you can decorate but can’t properly pilot, space combat is horrendously bad even though other games nailed it in the fucking 90s
  • planet exploration fantasy that breaks planets into tiny chunks even though no man’s sky existed for years
  • open world fantasy where discovery is undercut by the fact that the same assets are reused over and over. like not even texture and models randomized to have some variation, but entire buildings copied including the placement of objects inside.
  • classic Bethesda style afraid to lock the player out of anything approach that means you have no choices to make, just get through everything in the order you like … be a cop and a thief and a merchant and a cultist and a garbage man why not
  • vast space fantasy with a gazillion planets yet you are the center of everything
  • scifi universe that doesn’t have means of long distance communication for some reason, needing you to go back and forth between planets just to relay messages

i can go on but got bored.

the fact that you claim that the only problem starfield had was it’s scifi setting when massively successful scifi games like cyberpunk, deus ex, half life, nier, mass effect etc exist just proves you know nothing about video games.

and more specifically your seem to have no idea what people want from rpgs if you even consider starfield to be one worth mentioning, let alone an exemplary one.

HalfSalesman,

I’ve not gotten around to trying it yet, I’ve already got like 6-7 games on my plate ATM on various devices. I actually suspect I wont hate it but I hear its pretty meh.

Hopefully Bethesda can turn it around with DLC/updates though. I hear modding is still in its infancy too so maybe we’ll get something in that area down the road too.

Also I figure if I wait hopefully Starfield will get a VR edition (or maybe a mod) and that might be when I really want to jump in.

pyre,

the difference is cyberpunk has good direction and writing. starfield’s got neither. the problem with cyberpunk wasn’t the core of the game, it was bugs. once they fixed most of those the actual direction and story of the game had a chance to shine through.

starfield’s problem is the exact opposite. it was praised for being less buggy than the average BGS game, which is faint praise, but the problem is that it’s badly designed from the very core. it has bad writing, terrible characters, no direction at all, and no vision. bland, boring and basic. there’s no amount of updates that can fix that. the problems aren’t technical. there’s just no talent there.

PraiseTheSoup,

I’ve had cyberpunk since launch and the only thing that has improved is stability. The game is still a hodgepodge of half baked RPG systems, most of which aren’t even necessary to interact with. No amount of polish can change the fact that it’s a turd underneath.

sexual_tomato,

I can tell you haven’t booted the game up recently because they completely redid the perk system and cyberware not too long ago.

CDPR has been atoning for the sin that was their failed launch for years. In my opinion, the game is a good game now.

PraiseTheSoup,

That was over a year ago and I have. It’s a bandaid on a dumpster.

brucethemoose,

I found a combat mod completely changed the game for me. By making it brutally damaging instead of so bullet spongy and deleveling it, it simplifies all that crap away. Perks and guns are for play styles, and it lets one enjoy the game instead of worrying about them.

SomethingBurger,

Yes! BG3 and KC2 devs made amazing games but for some reason decided to have them take place in the most generic, boring medieval/fantasy setting.

I want a pirate RPG, or sci-fi, heck even a hardcore Mario CRPG.

pyre,

shut your whore mouth about faerun

Galle_,

Faerun is garbage. Aggressively bad even for a medieval fantasy settings. No game set in Faerun can be good.

pyre,

literally the best crpg games have been set in faerun

Galle_,

No they haven’t. Because they’re set in Faerun.

stoned_ape,

I want an Eberron game

pyre,

instead of an actual rpg they went with an mmo and an rts for eberron … idk why

Galle_,

It’s BECAUSE of the generic, boring medieval fantasy settings that they were successful.

Mr_Dr_Oink,

You are all over this thread. We get it, you dont like medievil fantasy… clearly not a popular opinion.

Galle_,

Exactly.

knatschus,

Maybe KCD2 is for you then, it got rid of the fantasy part and has historic figures in it instead.

Chemo,

Take a look at Exodus.

Galle_,

The problem is that gamers hate anytging that isn’t generic medieval fantasy.

ShovelKnight, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025

I am not really interested in modern gaming, but I needed a 16GB NVidia GPU for the AI/ML course I’m currently doing. I wanted to get a 16GB 4060Ti, but they were out of stock literally everywhere. In the end I gave up and got a 12GB 3060. It’s not as good as what I wanted, but at least it was cheap and readily available.

Sabata11792, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025

I saved up 2k over a year for a 5090. Gave up and bought a last gen AMD card with a waifu on it and may get a new phone with the left over.

Montreal_Metro, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025

I got tired of the whole GPU, PC building thing. It’s something that everybody should do once in their lives if only to learn how computers are put together. However, at a certain point, I just want come home, sit down and play games without having to fiddle around with drivers, so I bought a console.

REDACTED,

Is this a bait? Swapping parts once per few years was THE reason to choose something you can’t even likely repair?

ZeffSyde,

Right? I find solace in the fact that I can update individual parts of my PC over the years to play whatever new game catches my fancy. Buying a whole new console every generation seems wasteful.

I’m definitely not on board with pixel chasers upgrading graphic cards every year, though. That feels even more wasteful.

TheMainIngredient, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025

And there hasn’t been another option for years but I’m seeing an awful lot of buzz for the PS5 Pro with people ditching PC and enjoying that more casual, sofa with a controller approach.

LiveLM,

Buzz for the Pro? All I’ve seen is people sneering at the lack of games taking advantage of the extra capabilities and the price.
I still think the base model is a better deal.

TheMainIngredient,

Totally. Base is much cheaper. Especially the digital version. I think those looking at GPUs at twice the price of a PS5 Pro are given a new option though and my observation is that they’ve been vocal about it

REDACTED,

This doesn’t sound true. I can no longer name 1 friene who prefers console and PS5 pro launch was pretty terrible. Hell, even I got back into PC gaming thanks to VR

Dasnap, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025
@Dasnap@lemmy.world avatar

Crypto, followed by NFTs, followed by LLMs… The GPU market has been fucked for years now. Whenever something starts to drop off, another tech bro idea that requires 10,000 GPUs to process takes its place.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

Truly just the brute force solution. Need a shitload of compute? GPUs can do it! No one stops to think if we really need it. It’s all about coulda, not shoulda. Yeah, ML and AI has a place, but big tech just thinks “slap an LLM everywhere”. Just such horseshit

omarfw,

The tech industry chases acquisition and investor money only now, not consumer demand or innovative achievement. It’s all just people trying to get rich, mostly so they can escape the effects of late stage capitalism.

merc,
@merc@sh.itjust.works avatar

The Crypto to AI transition was brutal. Just as demand for GPUs was coming down because people were starting to use ASICs to mine Bitcoin, along comes AI to drive up non-gaming demand again.

The only good news is that eventually when the AI bubble pops there will be massive R&D and manufacturing geared towards producing GPUs. Unless something else comes along… But really, I can’t see that happening because the AI bubble is so immense and is such an enormous part of the entire world’s economy.

LiveLM,

Petition to shoot the next tech bro with a “innovative” idea

als, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025

My RX480 from 2016 is still kicking, if crashing a bit. At this rate when it breaks I’ll just use my steam deck docked instead of selling my liver to buy a new GPU

stevedice,

Less than a year since I upgraded from my RX580 and I only did it because I got an amazingly stupid deal on a RX7600 ($175 about 3 months after launch). Otherwise, the card is fine and is, in fact, still being used on my cousin’s PC.

psoul,

I have an RX580 as my eGpu. I was thinking of upgrading this year as I got a new laptop. Works great though.

LiveLM,

Rocking this Polaris until it Explodis

finitebanjo, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025

Why? Did the nVidia 30 series and the AMD already run out? I’ve never had issues buying cards that can run almost every game at 60 to 120 fps.

Matriks404, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025

IDK. I see plenty of RTX 3060’s and 4060’s around for relatively cheap, but I didn’t follow the evolution of PC components in years, and my GTX 1060 still works, lol.

paultimate14, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025

The 9070’s on eBay are getting cheaper and cheaper the further we get from the launch. I think scalpers underestimated AMD’s stock and they are slowly discovering that.

Immediately after the launch the XT seemed to be starting at $1,200. Now they are down to $800. The non-xt is down to $650.

Depends on how much stock AMD can provide in the coming weeks and months, but I’m still thinking I’ll be able to get one at MSRP this year.

SmokedBillionaire,

I’m not sure where you are seeing this but on eBay they are still showing a ton of cards from 12-1800.

This shit is a problem and only the apathetic retailers can fix it.

Zorque,

Being bought, or being sold? There’s a difference. If they’re not being bought at those numbers, they’ll still show up the most.

They also said “starting”, which implies that’s what it’s being sold at, not what you see the most listings for.

Mouette,

It still see them more around 800-900€ which is more than what i paid for a 7900XT wtf

filister,

In Germany the official Gigabyte shop sells those for 1141€. This is completely nuts.

UnderpantsWeevil, do games w Baldur's Gate 3 and Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 show that the future of RPGs is in games way more ambitious, weird and unexpected than anything Bethesda and Bioware have to offer
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

The joke of these games is that they aren’t notably more weird than titles Bethesda and Bioware were famous for turning out. Hard to get more weird than Fallout’s more esoteric vaults or Morrowind’s bizarre cults and exotic cultures.

BG3/KC:D have been, if anything, a direct successors to the old classics. They’re faithfully propagating the fundamental ideas these old titles represented in a way the new studios are unable to reproduce.

Also, honorable mention to the poor bastards who released Disco Elysium and then got their studio stripped out from underneath them by their financiers. Absolute gem of a game and you should feel free to pirate it without a twinge of guilt.

QuantumSparkles,

Someone should Luigi the guy(s) that fucked them over honestly

pennomi,

There are lots of things to physically fight back over, but video games ain’t one of them.

QuantumSparkles, (edited )

I’m not talking about video games I’m talking ruining someone’s life and stealing their intellectual property, the fucking performative humiliation he put those guys through. You think a rich CEO who would fuck people over that hard is really redeemable?

Edit: But no, you’re right that he shouldn’t be murdered, he doesn’t necessarily have blood on his hands like a healthcare CEO. He should simply be torn from his home and have all of his property and assets liquidated and distributed as compensation

Newsteinleo,

I am sensing a lot of anger here and given the current state of the world it just seems so misplaced. Like dude, there is really shit going on with real villains and real people siffering, maybe direct that anger there.

QuantumSparkles,

Why the fuck would you think it’s not? There’s a lot of goddamn villains in the world, an entire ecosystem of cruelty where people abuse those who they think are below them because of unchecked wealth and power, and people get personally fucked by individuals of that ecosystem every day. Just because there are bigger fish doesn’t mean small fish are exempt. Don’t presume that a frustration with a lesser evil means a blind eye to the greater ones

XM34,

“Evil is Evil. Lesser, greater, middling… Makes no difference. The degree is arbitary. The definition’s blurred. If I’m to choose between one evil and another… I’d rather not choose at all!”

Greedy CEOs, MAGA supporters, Islamists, Nazis, Tankies, all the same. If all of those people stopped existing tomorrow, then the world would undoubtably be a better place. I’m ready to die on that hill!

Newsteinleo,

But is it even evil? Like there were contracts involved with terms and conditions. Its not like some guy with a handle bar mustash just swiped the IP and walked away. Someone agreed to the contract that resulted in the loss of their company/IP and if they didn’t read it or consult with legal lawyer who’s bad guy?

XM34,

Yes, yes it is! On what world would stealing someone’s intellectual work and booting them out of their own company for the sole purpose to keep all of the money for yourself not be evil? Funnily enough, making people sign unfair contracts is literally the most devilish thing ever. It’s the one thing demons and devils do in pretty much every interpretation they appear in. This is why we need more people like Luigi!

Newsteinleo,

help me understand then, because if its a bad contract you don’t have to agree to it. so in what way are these people forced to sign contracts, and what are these terms and conditions that let people steal IP?

XM34,

Not everyone is literate in contract law, so most people won’t notice these kinds of hidden clauses that allow this. In this case it was a combination of signing over the IP to the developing company which they coowned. because that’s pretty standard procedure. Together with the investors managing to get a majority share of the company and forcing the original devs out by vote.

Just one of the reasons why smart people just license out their IPs. This way no one can take it from you. But again, you have to know quite a bit about contract law to know how this works.

Newsteinleo,

So what yoy are saying is, if they had gotten a lawyer and done some research they could have avoided this issue. Now compare this level of injustice to the genocide that has been happening in the middle east, of these two, which deserves my emotional energy?

FarceOfWill,

Aside from the unacceptable violence, the story here is far more complicated than that.
They were just impossible to work with.

I think PeopleMakeGames did a good YouTube video on it if you’ve not seen it.

dinckelman,

What had happened to the people in ZAUM (or what was once that studio), is a tragedy, and a huge shame. I’m not even a cRPG/dnd person, but that game has singlehandedly opened my eyes to a whole new world. It’s easily in my top10 games of all time, and I wish we could get another one eventually

prole,

Morrowind is over 20 years old, and there hasn’t been a FO game with compelling plot lines since New Vegas. You are living in the past.

iheartneopets,

Kinda the point of the comment

brucethemoose,

They have some good main quest writing, sure, but I feel like the nostalgia glasses factor is big, especially with NV.

daddy32,

It’s also ironic that BG3 is continuation of Bioware’s own franchise.

ultrafastsloth,
@ultrafastsloth@lemmy.world avatar

Just finished Disco Elysium few days ago, watched the credits roll from start to finish to see all the great people working on it, such a great game…now I am sad for what happened to them, I didnt know that

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