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rockSlayer, do games w Rebellion CEO seems kind of awed by major studios making massive videogames: 'How do you organize a game that has 2,000 people working on it?'

By crushing the spirit and exploiting the hell out of passionate workers.

mhague,

And hire an Outsource Manager so you can farm out most grunt work to underpaid devs in other countries.

KingThrillgore,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Who then proceed to get abused mentally and physically bad sociopathic managers.

5714, do games w Rebellion CEO seems kind of awed by major studios making massive videogames: 'How do you organize a game that has 2,000 people working on it?'

Open Source does it all the time, just with a slower pace.

tonytins,
@tonytins@pawb.social avatar

Excluding the “Open Core” projects, those people don’t normally have management breathing down their necks.

vrighter,

open core isn’t open source, imo.

tonytins, (edited )
@tonytins@pawb.social avatar

That’s why I put it in quotes.

magic_lobster_party,

How many open source projects have 2000 concurrent contributors working full time on it?

Kolanaki, do games w Rebellion CEO seems kind of awed by major studios making massive videogames: 'How do you organize a game that has 2,000 people working on it?'
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

How do you organize a game that has 2,000 people working on it?

I mean, with the general state of AAA gaming these days I have to assume they don’t. Have you seen some of the shit that’s been coming out?

tonytins,
@tonytins@pawb.social avatar

Ugh… Don’t get me started.

dinckelman,

I can’t imagine ever working on any project that large. Most of your people will essentially have zero communication with each other, and release a half-assed overbudgeted product as a result

Skullgrid,
@Skullgrid@lemmy.world avatar

Most of your people will essentially have zero communication with each other

does the texture artist really need to communicate with the advertising co-ordinator?

Cocodapuf,

But does the texture artist need to talk to the modelers? Of course. Do they need to talk to people in sound design? Maybe. What about game engine and programming? Maybe. What about writers? Maybe.

The fact is, you’d probably have a better product at the end of the day if everyone were able to coordinate their efforts.

Jesus_666, (edited )

Not everyone needs to talk to everyone. But many people need to talk to many people.

Microsoft had to abandon the initial Vista project and start over because they couldn’t manage a team of 1000 developers. People working on adjacent features had to go through so many layers of management that in some cases the closest shared manager was Bill Gates. For something like getting a change in the shutdown code reflected in the shutdown dialog.

Huge teams become exponentially harder to manage efficiently.

AceStructor,

This is exactly what I thought

ShovelKnight, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025

I am not really interested in modern gaming, but I needed a 16GB NVidia GPU for the AI/ML course I’m currently doing. I wanted to get a 16GB 4060Ti, but they were out of stock literally everywhere. In the end I gave up and got a 12GB 3060. It’s not as good as what I wanted, but at least it was cheap and readily available.

Sabata11792, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025

I saved up 2k over a year for a 5090. Gave up and bought a last gen AMD card with a waifu on it and may get a new phone with the left over.

finitebanjo, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025

Why? Did the nVidia 30 series and the AMD already run out? I’ve never had issues buying cards that can run almost every game at 60 to 120 fps.

TheMainIngredient, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025

And there hasn’t been another option for years but I’m seeing an awful lot of buzz for the PS5 Pro with people ditching PC and enjoying that more casual, sofa with a controller approach.

LiveLM,

Buzz for the Pro? All I’ve seen is people sneering at the lack of games taking advantage of the extra capabilities and the price.
I still think the base model is a better deal.

TheMainIngredient,

Totally. Base is much cheaper. Especially the digital version. I think those looking at GPUs at twice the price of a PS5 Pro are given a new option though and my observation is that they’ve been vocal about it

REDACTED,

This doesn’t sound true. I can no longer name 1 friene who prefers console and PS5 pro launch was pretty terrible. Hell, even I got back into PC gaming thanks to VR

Matriks404, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025

IDK. I see plenty of RTX 3060’s and 4060’s around for relatively cheap, but I didn’t follow the evolution of PC components in years, and my GTX 1060 still works, lol.

Montreal_Metro, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025

I got tired of the whole GPU, PC building thing. It’s something that everybody should do once in their lives if only to learn how computers are put together. However, at a certain point, I just want come home, sit down and play games without having to fiddle around with drivers, so I bought a console.

REDACTED,

Is this a bait? Swapping parts once per few years was THE reason to choose something you can’t even likely repair?

ZeffSyde,

Right? I find solace in the fact that I can update individual parts of my PC over the years to play whatever new game catches my fancy. Buying a whole new console every generation seems wasteful.

I’m definitely not on board with pixel chasers upgrading graphic cards every year, though. That feels even more wasteful.

als, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025

My RX480 from 2016 is still kicking, if crashing a bit. At this rate when it breaks I’ll just use my steam deck docked instead of selling my liver to buy a new GPU

stevedice,

Less than a year since I upgraded from my RX580 and I only did it because I got an amazingly stupid deal on a RX7600 ($175 about 3 months after launch). Otherwise, the card is fine and is, in fact, still being used on my cousin’s PC.

psoul,

I have an RX580 as my eGpu. I was thinking of upgrading this year as I got a new laptop. Works great though.

LiveLM,

Rocking this Polaris until it Explodis

nahostdeutschland, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025

I’ve been gaming on my SteamDeck for quite a while and I will continue that. There’s no way that I’m paying that much money for a new gaming computer

RememberTheApollo_, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025
@RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world avatar

Been that way for years. There was a brief respite when people were switching to ASIC bitcoin mining and away from GPU intensive mining and you could actually get a GPU for a fair price, retail, non-scalper price gouging.

Now it’s right back to basically unaffordable for a name brand GPU. Literally more than a mortgage payment.

Modern_medicine_isnt,

I wish my mortgage was that low.

RememberTheApollo_,
@RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world avatar

Beats me how much your mortgage is, prices I’m seeing for a 4080 Ti are north of $2500.

Modern_medicine_isnt,

Others were saying $2k… I am thankfully under $2500. Though I forgot insurance is wrapped in my monthly payment. So maybe I am under even $2k. I know rent around here is between $1k and $2k a month for a two bedroom apt though.

Vizth, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025

You know, I was thinking about upgrading my graphics card this year along with the rest of my PC but I think I can squeeze a couple more years out of my 3060 TI at this rate.

Psythik,

I squeezed 7 years out of my 1070 before I replaced it.

You can easily get another 2-4 years out of your GPU. A 3060ti isn’t even old.

PancakeBrock,

My desktop still has a 1060. It’s not great in new games but still works.

JDPoZ, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025
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I just kept an eye on Micro Center’s refurbished cards for a few weeks and was able to snag a 3090Ti late last year with a 3-yr warranty for the same price I paid for a 980Ti in 2015.

taiyang,

I think that might be my plan too, but I’m still waiting a paycheck or two before I even monitor the situation. My 2070 is fine and ultimately I just want to pass it down to a spare PC for kids to mess around on as my oldest hits 3. I know my the time I hit 5 I was playing shit like Dune 2, admittedly with hacked save files my dad setup.

Dasnap, do games w The Simple Act of Buying a Graphics Card Is the Defining Misery of PC Gaming in 2025
@Dasnap@lemmy.world avatar

Crypto, followed by NFTs, followed by LLMs… The GPU market has been fucked for years now. Whenever something starts to drop off, another tech bro idea that requires 10,000 GPUs to process takes its place.

scrubbles,
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Truly just the brute force solution. Need a shitload of compute? GPUs can do it! No one stops to think if we really need it. It’s all about coulda, not shoulda. Yeah, ML and AI has a place, but big tech just thinks “slap an LLM everywhere”. Just such horseshit

omarfw,

The tech industry chases acquisition and investor money only now, not consumer demand or innovative achievement. It’s all just people trying to get rich, mostly so they can escape the effects of late stage capitalism.

merc,
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The Crypto to AI transition was brutal. Just as demand for GPUs was coming down because people were starting to use ASICs to mine Bitcoin, along comes AI to drive up non-gaming demand again.

The only good news is that eventually when the AI bubble pops there will be massive R&D and manufacturing geared towards producing GPUs. Unless something else comes along… But really, I can’t see that happening because the AI bubble is so immense and is such an enormous part of the entire world’s economy.

LiveLM,

Petition to shoot the next tech bro with a “innovative” idea

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