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sad_detective_man, do gaming w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash

Let’s pretend that it runs. Would I even want to play it with the dialogue turned on?

djsoren19,

From the reviews I’ve seen, it actually seems like they listened to complaints about three and have toned down the cringey dialogue.

Of course, nobody can get the damn thing to run, so hard to independently verify, but it seems like this entry was meant to be a triumphant return to form, far closer to BL2 in tone and style than BL3.

It’ll maybe be worth checking out once the inevitable Game of the Year edition goes on heavy discount in like four years.

sad_detective_man,

Well that’s good then. Maybe it might make my “buy on sale” list. You’re right, not worth buying these until the dlc is all out and discounted

scintilla,

The story is really good so far have beaten 1/3 guys to get the things (trying to not spoil for those who know nothing). I have been having a blast. Only crashed after a hotfix then a second one came out and fixed it as far as I can tell.

The specs required make no sense though it doesn’t look that much better than 3.

_spiffy, do gaming w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash
@_spiffy@lemmy.ca avatar

My mid range 4 year old PC must be hella premium. Because I’ve had no issues playing it.

ApatheticCactus, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

I just got a new GPU, and they gave me a coupon for the game for free. My system should be able to run it great, but I’m not even sure how good it actually even is. All the reviews I see all look like paid reviews or early access folk, or people that claim to love it to justify their overpriced rigs.

I loved 1 and 2, and then the series went downhill for me. Now I guess I have 4 but might wait a while to play it because I know a ton of patches are coming. Besides, there are a ton of other great games on my backlog that I’d much rather play with my limited free time.

stringere, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

Bought it to try n Linux. I don’t have the greatest video card but I can play Dune: Awakening, Helldivers 2, Monster Hunter Wikds, Avowed, Black Myth: Wukong…

Borderlands 4 was stuttering on the barely animated character select. I lowered settings all as low as possible and it was still unplayable with delayed/missed input and stuttering.

AdolfSchmitler, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

How tf do companies get to say this shit and still be in business?? Are there that many people who just blindly bend over and take it?? Don’t people have standards anymore?

Flamekebab,
@Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

Most of their customers don't listen to them. Not hear and disregard, never listen in the first place. Have no interest in game industry gossip.

psx_crab,

Yes. It’s in the top selling list in Steam and have 300k concurrent player top. People give him power to say that.

frongt, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

Is Borderlands really all that popular still? Like I remember seeing the first few games everywhere, and people talking about them, but that was years ago. I realize I’m biased but I would expect to hear something about them…

funkless_eck,

1 was fresh and new

2 was fantastic

prequel was OK

3 tried too hard and was generally average to poor

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe he could try to make another TV series.

Atherel,

Does 1 get better? I have 1 and 2 from a bundle years ago and started the first game. It’s sooo boring, like all the bad stuff from an mmo but single player. I don’t want to walk from a Hub to place A multiple times and just the spawning mobs change based on the quest.

Or if 1 doesn’t get better, can I play 2 without losing to much?

funkless_eck,

yeah it’s a little bare bones, it’s not worth more than a single playthrough really. Because the events of 1 are expanded on in 2 and some of the story beats land a little better if you knew the characters from 1 it’s worth playing once for novelty - but it being a 16 year old game it shows its age.

tankfox,

After what they did to my boy claptrap they can eat it. It’s obvious that the voice acting department is going to go out of the way to deservedly sabotage this series until it finally gives up.

mic_check_one_two, (edited )

2 was where the series really peaked. The first did some new things, and brought some fresh life into the shooter genre.

2 expanded upon it, and had a much better story. It was also in the heyday of matchmaking game lobbies, so it was easy to boot up the match finder and jump into a game with someone. Probably half of my Steam friends list came from playing this game and just vibing with people on voice chat while we ran through the side quests.

The prequel was… Alright? I’d put it about on par with the first game. It didn’t bring anything new or exciting to the table, but it was good at what it did.

Then 3 was just bad. It felt really cringey, in a “how do you do, fellow kids” kind of way. Like it was trying too hard.

And now 4 sounds like more of 3. The game sounds rushed, and the CEO’s attempting to cover for that rush makes him sound woefully out of touch. There’s no good reason that cel-shaded graphics should require a 5090 to run smoothly.

UnsavoryMollusk, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

That’s nice, he is kind enough to tell us that we should not buy his game if we do not have a monster gpu. He is only excluding a very small portion of gamers after all !

Let’s look at the Valve’s hardware survey.

Wait…

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Most popular system RAM is 16GB, and VRAM is 8GB.

Wow! Powerful specs!

aesthelete, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

Sucker game made for sucker gamers.

Are you inclined to blame yourself for the obvious failings of a gaming corporation? Smash that buy button now!

xep, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

A game that looks like BL4 shouldn’t run like Cyberpunk 2077 with ray tracing turned on.

deczzz, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'
@deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Stupid comment indeed but this is the gamer community as we know - thet feel SO entitled.

Listen, you can try the game for two hours and get a refund on steam. If you didn’t notice the performance issues on your rig within those two hours, well, what’s the problem? If did notice, then why didn’t you just refund on get on with your life? It’s because of this crazy feeling od entitlement thet gamers seem to have. Whenever something doesn’t live up to their arbitrary standards, the world must burn.

I don’t like BL games and I don’t like poorly optimized games. Doesn’t run like I wanted to? Fine, I refund, maybe try when I upgrade my hardware and the game is on sell. Lots more of these incoming because developers not being able to work with UE5 without optimization issues, e.g. the new Metal gear remake). Also, I know nothing about how devs deal game optimization.

itkovian, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

I guess I will stick to my “non-premium” games made by devs who actually care about providing experiences worth experiencing, instead of a checklist-driven, committee designed and overpriced games that are most AAA games.

nfreak,
@nfreak@lemmy.ml avatar

I sunk 90 hours into Silksong since launch, and now I’m going through Nine Sols and playing PoE2 on and off. I won’t lie I’m hearing good things about BL4 minus the performance, but I’m not giving Randy a single cent and I’m far happier not engaging in AAA dogshit.

Soapbox, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

I haven’t played more than about 30 minutes of a Borderlands game. But from clips I have seen of all of them over the years, they all look exactly the same. Sounds to me like it’s just a poorly optimized game, as is standard for new AAA slop releases.

Soggy, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

When was the last time Randy Pitchford got through a day without being a prick?

etchinghillside, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

So… I shouldn’t plan on playing this on a Steamdeck when it gets down to $19.99?

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Not the current one, no. The Steam Deck is closer to a PS4 spec, and even if there weren’t optimization problems, this is built to a PS5 spec.

normanwall,

Someone smarter than Randy will figure out tweaks and optimisations to allow it eventually.

fishbone,

For better or worse it’s unreal engine 5 (AKA volumetrics: the engine), so it’s got some easy performance gains here and there with engine.ini tweaks and maybe some mods to remove stuff if denuvo isn’t too bad about it.

TachyonTele,

I'd watch reviews first.
Borderlands 3 works excellent on the deck though.

Gork, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

Maybe try optimizing your game before releasing it?

itkovian,

Please try optimizing your pc before purchasing BL4. \s

pressanykeynow,

That’s probably the best how copilot could optimize it.

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