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MushuChupacabra, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'
@MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world avatar

I’ll avoid any controversy by not buying the game, and spending elsewhere.

frezik, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

Someday, the industry is going to realize that while transistors might still be getting smaller, they aren’t getting cheaper for it. Which was the original formulation of Moore’s Law; cost of integrated component gets cut in half every x months.

Not just games, but the whole tech industry. Even in so far as faster hardware exists–and it just plain might not in this case–people can’t afford it.

missingno, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

I feel like we've long reached the point where the benefit of top-of-the-line hardware just isn't worth it. IMO, Switch 2 ought to be enough to target, and any game that can't fit on that can probably stand to be scaled back.

xxce2AAb, do gaming w I fixed Borderlands 4's stuttering issue by upping my shader cache size to 100 GB, which feels like something I shouldn't have to do in a well-optimised game

Uh, Jesus Christ…

Flamekebab, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'
@Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

I guess I'm not premium enough to give you my money, Randy.

Broadfern, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'
@Broadfern@lemmy.world avatar

Nah I’m not gonna pay $80 for unoptimized copy-paste spyware my man thanks

maxwells_daemon, (edited ) do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'

Ran dis Pitchfork into his mom last night.

That’s the highest level argument this guy deserves.

echodot, do games w In a week dominated by Silksong and Borderlands, co-op roguelike Shape of Dreams still managed to launch on Steam as an instant top-seller

I have an issue with the idea that Borderlands is dominating gaming news. I didn’t even realise it had launched so I wouldn’t exactly call it popping off the shelf.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

I was going to comment the same thing. Maybe it’s just the circles i’m in, but like the only thing i’ve heard about it is the price and the performance issues on PC

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Boards like these don’t talk about Call of Duty or Assassin’s Creed much either, but all of these are multi billion dollar franchises.

echodot,

Yeah but I would have known thwy had released because they would have been advertising or something. I don’t feel like anyone’s spoken about Borderlands since that comment about how it should be $90 or whatever.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

That’s interesting, because without even really looking for it, it came up in Nintendo Directs, Keighley presentations, Sony presentations, and any discourse about games moving around release dates on account of GTA VI. For whatever reason, this game’s release date was moved up by a couple of weeks over its initial release date announcement, and that pretty much never happens, so it made headlines for that too. Oh yeah, and while trying to watch streamers play Borderlands, those streams have been interrupted by ads for Borderlands 4.

Goodeye8,

I get where you're coming from, I found out Borderlands 4 launched when I saw the news about it having performance issues. That said, if you look at Steam charts Borderlands 4 is just smidge below Silksong numbers and at the time of writing this comment Silksong is the 4th most popular game and Borderlands is 6th most popular game, barely beaten out by a game called Banana (which I've never even heard of and I have no clue why it's that popular).

Localhorst86,
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Banana (which I’ve never even heard of and I have no clue why it’s that popular).

It’s an idle/clicker game that drops steam items that can, theoretically, be sold for money. I can’t recommend it.

echodot,

I thought steam banned those kind of games.

Localhorst86,
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I can’t find any info about a blanket ban on idle/clicker games, and quite frankly, I don’t see why valve would ban them.

For them, it’s free money:

  1. the developer has to pay a flat fee for the game to appear on the storefront
  2. the developer has to pay an additional fee to enable community items
  3. both the developer as well as valve receive a percentage cut of the sale price in the community marketplace
Goodeye8,

I get what kind of a game it is. I don't get how that is so popular. We're talking about player counts that not even Destiny 2 could reach. The only rational conclusion I came come to is that those numbers have to be botted.

Localhorst86,
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my guess is that a lot of people let the game idle in the background to farm items, that’s why it’s so “popular”. It’s not “active players”, it’s just a large number of people farming items in the hopes to get one they can sell for a larger sum.
Afaik it has been in the top charts for over a year.

ICastFist,
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Gaming GabeN’s system

CallMeAnAI,

Record launch. 200k concurrent.

nagaram, do games w 'Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers' is Randy Pitchford's tone deaf retort to the performance backlash: 'If you're trying to drive a monster truck with a leaf blower's motor, you're going to be disappointed'
@nagaram@startrek.website avatar

Considering Randy REALLY wants you to pay $130 USD for this game, I’m not shocked his performance advice was “be less poor”

NuXCOM_90Percent, do games w In a week dominated by Silksong and Borderlands, co-op roguelike Shape of Dreams still managed to launch on Steam as an instant top-seller

DID Blands 4 “dominate”? The only mention of it I saw was pitchford (and his magic flash drive) bragging that the servers wouldn’t get hugged over the weekend and… yeah.

KingThrillgore, do games w In a week dominated by Silksong and Borderlands, co-op roguelike Shape of Dreams still managed to launch on Steam as an instant top-seller
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

It helps that Borderlands runs like shit

noobdoomguy8658, do games w The only good Postal game is a spinoff expressionist boomer shooter that takes place entirely in the protagonist's depraved mind
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Running With Scissors has been making fun of exact such takes since POSTAL 2, proudly waving their “worst game of all time” banners.

If this isn’t irony, it sure is ironic.

RickyRigatoni, do games w The only good Postal game is a spinoff expressionist boomer shooter that takes place entirely in the protagonist's depraved mind
@RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com avatar

Games journalists aren’t legally people.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w In a week dominated by Silksong and Borderlands, co-op roguelike Shape of Dreams still managed to launch on Steam as an instant top-seller

I am genuinely curious how Steam puts games in its Top Seller list. It would seem that sometimes a game gets into the list that does not belong merely because it is new. I amnot saying that applies to this game, but I would like to see some metrics that show whether Steam alters anything for anything in the Top Seller list.

Minnels,

Why can’t a game you haven’t heard about be in the top sellers? I did hear about it a couple of weeks ago, played the demo and it was a no brainer for me to buy it.

How Steam measures whatever sells what I don’t know but it can be 15 minutes of fame for smaller studios also. If the game is good, it is earned imo.

Edit: read your comment a bit better now. I am sorry if this got a negative feeling to it. Not my intention.

ampersandrew,
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It’s by revenue over a certain amount of time, but I don’t know what that period of time is. A $35 game has to sell twice as many copies as a $70 game to rank just as high. Since the Steam Deck is about $400, depending on SKU, it’s usually in that top sellers list despite not matching the volume of sales that certain games do.

entropicdrift, do gaming w Star Citizen fans sigh deeply, rub their foreheads as developer casts doubt on Squadron 42's 2026 release: 'I don't know if we're going to make it'
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The bigger context of that quote is basically that they’re heads down and preparing for crunch. The person who said, “I don’t know if we’re going to make it” also said “but we’re doing everything we can to make it happen” (this is my paraphrase, I don’t know if I got the exact wording)

rainwall,

The bigger, bigger context of the quote is that this game was initially supposed to be released in 2014, and now 2026 is looking unlikely.

And yes, im just talking about squadron 42, the spinoff fps of the even later game that is even farther from release, Star citizen.

The 12 years of release date slippage makes people extra wary about any qualifiers or maybes that the devs add, regardless of context.

entropicdrift,
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Sure, that’s true. I was a year 1 backer, just after the initial Kickstarter ended, so I guess to me that part of the context kind of spoke for itself. Thanks for highlighting it, I honestly do appreciate it.

Sidyctism2,
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I know some of the SC story from knudsens channel, but somehow it never really hit me that they are developing a spin-off of a game that hasnt even released yet

Hadriscus,

it’s a wandering daughter job

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