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haloduder, do games w [Update: Valve Responds] Mastercard Denies Pressuring Steam To Censor 'NSFW' Games

I’m voting for Donald Trump because of Collective Shout.

Since neither candidate represents the working class and all we have is a culture war, I’m going to fight back against censorship wherever I can.

All of the people on the left pushing censorship and attacking freedom of speech are directly responsible for driving me further to the right.

SmilingSolaris,

Upset about conservatives and their puritanical practices. Votes for puritanical conservatives. What, do you think because he fucks kids he will allow your gooner game?

haloduder,

Useful idiots on the left are the only ones attacking freedom of speech, saying its a dogwhistle.

Useful idiots on the left are the only ones trying to control narratives by controlling what information people are allowed to share.

SmilingSolaris,

My brother in Christ they are a self proclaimed anti queer conservative organization. Do you want to be right? Do you care if you’re correct or not? Or do you want to blame everything on the ghosts in your head?

rmrf,

Ah yes, because the left wing is famous for the proliferation of requiring a government issued ID to use the internet in ways that make them uncomfortable.

pahlimur,

You are one of the worst cucks I’ve ever seen. Go read this guy’s comment history, holy shit.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

But the people on the right are also pushing for censorship. You’re just choosing what flavour of censorship.

In America you don’t have any other parties with more moderate idealogies either. It’s either the one or the other.

So before you go voting for a literal criminal as the opposition, why not first burn down your shitty system and rebuild something better.

haloduder,

The people on the right aren’t censoring me for disagreeing with them.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

You’re really not paying attention, then. Because that’s exactly what they’re doing.

haloduder,

Where? I can say whatever I want on 4chan, but I come to any of the liberal social media sites and get banned for disagreeing with the crowd.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Sure buddy. Let’s just ignore Twatter and Facebook like that.

TerdFerguson,

Freedom of speech is not the same thing as "freedom from consequences for saying something idiotic’

pahlimur,

You aren’t being banned. You’re are being fact checked, cuck.

FlyingCircus,

Collective Shout is a conservative organization you numbskull.

haloduder,

So that means the left isn’t censoring me as much as the right?

FlyingCircus,

Tbh liberals love censorship as much as conservatives (see the proscription of Palestine Action in the UK).

But it’s a bit silly saying you are going to vote for a conservative because a conservative group is censoring you.

haloduder,

These are Australian conservatives, they don’t value freedom of speech as much as American conservatives.

They are willing to abuse censorship to push their agendas, just like American liberals.

FlyingCircus,

You know that American conservatives have been banning books from libraries, and banning topics like racism and homophobia from being talked about in schools, right? American conservatives love censoring anything they don’t agree with. They are the original snowflakes.

I suspect your butt is just chapped because you can’t drop a hard “r” on BlueSky.

13igTyme,

You’re a good example of the average dumbass American.

SmilingSolaris,

Hi. Texas conservatives in Houston took over the city schools and removed libraries to create a prison inside the school itself. Fuck you and your talks of censorship. You don’t know censorship and think the conservacucks don’t do it because they ain’t targeting your white cis heterosexual ass. You have no opinion worth censoring because your just that white bread bland.

simsalabim,

I guess only in a country that is so far leaning on the right thinks that liberals are “on the left”.

FlyingCircus,

Well that’s why I didn’t say “leftists.” But if we’re continuing to be honest, leftist governments also censor. I don’t think you can find any ideology that doesn’t censor, actually.

MithranArkanere,

Collective Shout is a conservative, forced-birth anti-trans sex-nagative women-patronizing christian organization masquerading as feminist.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melinda_Tankard_Reist

They call themselves “feminist” but they are as “feminist” as the guys who finally allowed women to drive in Saudia Arabia.

BipolarSilence,

This is what we call ragebait! There’s too much going on in the news to even bother with this type of ‘person’.

haloduder,

Not really. You don’t like what I have to say, so you’re trying to get me censored by crying ‘ragebait.’

You’re another example of why censorship on the left drives people further to the right.

I’m going to block you now since I can tell you need the last reply.

13igTyme,

That’s some strong protection. You’ve spent the last hour getting the last word in on everyone replying to you.

5too,

That’s not censorship. That’s just social consequences.

CromulantCrow,

Don’t feed the trolls.

PrettyFlyForAFatGuy,

Voting for Donald Trump in which election?

He’s on his last legal term

Atomic,

I’m sorry. Did you just say you want to vote Trump because you think they’re against censorship? The guy that threatens journalists, and politicians that report or say bad things about them. Do you not think that’s censorship?

I don’t even have a bone in this fight. I just want to understand the thought process.

waterSticksToMyBalls,

Censorship means different things to different people. For those on the left censorship means suppression of liberal ideas, suppression of journalism exposing corruption and brutality, suppression of peoples history. For those on the right censorship means they can’t say the n word anymore.

Would you care to guess what censorship means to haloduder?

Atomic,

No don’t want to guess. I’d rather ask him directly instead of making assumptions.

JcbAzPx,

You mean the guy that is president right now, while this is happening, that is doing nothing about it because he’s too busy dealing with his pedophile rape escapades becoming public knowledge?

Railing5132,

Not to mention: the guy that can’t run for president again (yet)

8000gnat,

reddthat please please add a downvote option

big_slap,
misteloct, do games w [Update: Valve Responds] Mastercard Denies Pressuring Steam To Censor 'NSFW' Games

“Cryptocurrency is only a pyramid scheme and has no real utility!”

Rbnsft,

Its used like one.

protogen420,

afaik the least pyramid scheme crypto coin is monero, bitcoin is used almost purely as a speculative asset which is just sad

misteloct,

Bitcoin does have some more utility based proposals but for the foreseeable future, I agree. Most cryptos are like that too.

misteloct,

It’s mostly used like that, but doesn’t mean it has no utility whatsoever.

Rbnsft,

The other 5% are used for drugs and other illegal stuff. So Yeah it is used for trading but 90% is just scam or investment

misteloct,

Source?

kadup,
@kadup@lemmy.world avatar

Cryptocurrency is a pyramid scheme and has no real utility.

misteloct,

Monero, a decentralized censorship proof cryptocurrency, has no real utility with regard to solving MasterCard’s censorship and only depends on a pyramid of investors to function at all? That is not my understanding.

Yes, most cryptos are treated like pump and dump scams. 99% of usage is like that. Absolutely does not change the underlying utility nor would I recommend “investing” in them.

kadup,
@kadup@lemmy.world avatar

Monero, a decentralized censorship proof cryptocurrency, has no real utility with regard to solving MasterCard’s censorship and only depends on a pyramid of investors to function at all?

Monero - the digital token with no real world value, yes. You don’t need crypto to fix this issue. Brazilians can use Pix and would not depend on MasterCard and Visa, and this includes everything from physical purchases to digital storefronts to paying in installments and more. All attached to currency that actually means something and zero crypto bros trying to pump the value up or down on their delusional subreddits.

misteloct, (edited )

Pix sounds trivially easy to censor, freeze, or control from the government’s perspective. Unless I’m missing something that makes it easier for the government to censor innocuous NSFW content. And we don’t have anything like it in the US so it’s useless to me.

Monero can be used immediately without storing a balance for longer than a few minutes, although a correlation attack would be trivial like that. But at best it is not subject to market whims any longer than you decide is necessary for your anonymity needs. It’s the perfect case for purchasing NSFW software, where you want the purchase private and uncensored even when it’s perfectly legal. That sounds like an incredible real world value, even after the crypto bros are long gone and the value dumps (imo) 99%. But it’s a tool that needs no real world value.

kadup,
@kadup@lemmy.world avatar

Pix sounds trivially easy to censor, freeze, or control from the government’s perspective

If the Brazilian government decided to go against the constitution to censor my online purchases like that, buying hentai games would be the least of my concerns. And then it wouldn’t matter if I’m using your fake crypto bro tokens or not.

And we don’t have anything like it in the US

Of course not. You live in a weird techno feudalism where the government can’t do anything because that’s socialism and the only solutions you trust are some random tech bro dependent crap like CashApp.

misteloct,

Yes, so you agree that Monero has value then, especially in countries like the US?

kadup,
@kadup@lemmy.world avatar

so you agree that Monero has value then

Nope, I’d rather use seashells than something like Monero. Crypto is got negative value, the time wasted hearing people like you preach about it is never going to be returned to my life.

especially in countries like the US?

Seashells would be an upgrade in a country like the US, but failures of your payment systems do not change anything for the inherent value of random online tokens.

misteloct,

Seashells require face to face interaction, they weigh a lot and they are not convenient to obtain. Nor are they fungible or even anonymous. I am not convinced they are better than Monero, or that Monero has no value.

kadup,
@kadup@lemmy.world avatar

Seashells require face to face interaction, they weigh a lot and they are not convenient to obtain. Nor are they fungible or even anonymous

That’s all true, which is why seashells are terrible. But even being terrible, they beat the imaginary crypto bro token. That’s how bad the crypto bro token is.

misteloct,

Again Monero is immediately useful to many people, and so are other cryptos. You don’t have to use them and they may not be useful to you. But they are useful to others.

mrodri89, do games w Blizzard's Overwatch Team Just Unionized: 'What I Want To Protect Most Here Is The People'

Im happy. Best state the game has been in and can only get better from here.

gradual, do games w Blizzard's Overwatch Team Just Unionized: 'What I Want To Protect Most Here Is The People'

Cool, but it’s not going to make the game any better.

They’ve been listening to the wrong people for too long.

rigatti,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

It’s… not supposed to make the game better? It’s supposed to make working conditions for the team better.

gradual,

I never said it was to make the game better, only that it probably won’t which is what’s mostly relevant to me.

I don’t really have sympathy for people working for blizzard.

rigatti,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

You said it’s not going to make the game better, so is the implication not that it’s supposed to make the game better somehow?

gradual,

Alright bud, I’m just gonna ignore ya.

Goodbye.

Glad I’ve gotten pretty good at identifying the insufferable people that just aren’t worth engaging with.

rigatti,
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    you identified yourself?

    gradual,

    No, I’m not the one who is desperately trying to drag people into an internet debate.

    ArmoredThirteen,

    Are you a Magikarp because you seem like you’re hurting yourself in your confusion

    gradual,

    It seems like you’re just trying to fit in with your peers.

    Also, confusion has nothing to do with Magikarp. Magikarp uses splash.

    ArmoredThirteen,

    Nah I’m not worried about my peers I just think you’re easy to string along and it amuses me

    gradual,

    Sigh, more censorship.

    Gonna need better communities without the mod abuse soon.

    AstralPath,

    You’re self-filtering yourself from the community. Based on these interactions, I think you’re doing the lord’s work. Keep it up!👍

    gradual,

    Ok.

    Dremor, (edited )
    @Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

    So you just go and post an off-topic rant, because you feel like those people, whose vast majority works to feed their family, do not deserve to have better working conditions?

    Do you even realize how narcissistic you sound like?

    Looking at your comment history I’m not really surprised, all you contributions looks like similar to this thread, but I’d like to give you a chance before banning you to keep this community turning toxic because of people like you.

    gradual, (edited )

    Lol, what? If they want better working conditions, they can work somewhere other than Activision Blizzard, one of the scummiest companies in the world that’s actively contributing to tarnishing the integrity of the medium.

    Also, I literally said “Cool” in response to them unionizing, so you’re just straight up lying when you say “you feel like those people, whose vast majority works to feed their family, do not deserve to have better working conditions”

    I even clarified by saying what I prioritize.

    It’s sad watching you get this mad at me because I said I don’t like a game and then threaten to abuse your power to ban me.

    Seek help.

    turning toxic because of people like you.

    The real toxicity is from the people responding to me like you lying, calling me a narcissist, and threatening to ban me just to support the dogpile.

    Dremor, (edited )
    @Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

    Lol, what? If they want better working conditions, they can work somewhere other than Activision Blizzard, one of the scummiest companies in the world that’s actively contributing to tarnishing the integrity of the medium.

    Sound like someone who never had any difficulty to find work (or do not work at all). Many worker do not have the possibility to easily change work, either because of the lack of similar companies in the vicinity, added to various reason for not being able to easily move home (kids, mortgages, among other). And even when they can, changing company is a jump into the unknown. It can be better, on the start of an even worse nightmare. At least in a company they already know, they have contacts, friends, and now, an union to protect them.

    Also, I literally said “Cool” in response to them unionizing, so you’re just straight up lying when you say “you feel like those people, whose vast majority works to feed their family, do not deserve to have better working conditions”

    Cool, but it’s not going to make the game any better.

    You are right, I’m caricaturing it a bit. The problem is that you immediately rant about it not going your way. If you’d really want to congratulate them for that, you wouldn’t immediately go on a rant about yourself immediately. Let’s get another example. Would you say to a friend announcing getting engaged “Cool, but I still can’t get laid”? No you wouldn’t, only a narcissist would.

    I even clarified by saying what I prioritize.

    That a bit the problem. You prioritize yourself, in a context that has no reason to. We are talking about the employees, not you. Either talk about the topic of the thread, even if you are against it, but don’t drag it to yourself at every occasion.

    It’s sad watching you get this mad at me because I said I don’t like a game and then threaten to abuse your power to ban me.

    Seek help.

    If I’m that much into banning everyone, I would have done it without giving you a chance of arguing back. The people I banned indefinitely are all spambots or bad faith trolls. Other than that I usually give 3-7 days bans when things go too far, to give people time to self-reflect and join us again on a later date. Considering how well your comments were received by the community, I doubt the community will miss you while your enjoy your alone time.

    The real toxicity is from the people responding to me like you lying, calling me a narcissist, and threatening to ban me just to support the dogpile.

    I see we don’t have the same definition of toxicity. If you consider that warning you to take a bit of time to self-reflect as toxicity, then you probably don’t have your place in this community.

    Tiresia,

    Besides, better working conditions for the team means more mentally healthy workers means a better and more creative product.

    JDPoZ,
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  • gradual,

    It would be nice if this improved the game or resulted in better games, but I won’t hold my breath.

    JDPoZ,
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  • gradual,

    Ok. It’s nice that you believe that unionizing is guaranteed to make better products no matter what.

    I still think it won’t improve the game as they’ve been listening to the wrong people for too long.

    But hey, maybe they can make a new game that’s good.

    echodot,

    Why are you arguing? You’ve stated your opinion, great we’ve heard it, but unfortunately it’s based on zero knowledge, so it’s worthless.

    gradual,

    Who’s arguing? We’re agreeing to disagree.

    It looks like you’re getting mad at me for disagreeing with you though. It’s ok for you to think what you want.

    bright_side_,
    @bright_side_@lemmy.world avatar

    Hey just wanted to let you know that I really appreciate your perspective. I know that unions result, in general, in better working conditions. However me as a customer not only supporting such companies, if I choose so, but also benefitting from better products in general is a nice perspective. food for thought!

    Elevator7009,

    Did not know Tillamook was employee-owned. Their ice cream is great, now I have a reason to prioritize buying from them.

    tias, do gaming w Even Atari Game Cartridges Are Getting More Expensive Because Of Tariffs

    Well, duh

    RightHandOfIkaros, (edited ) do games w A Video Game Flopped Harder Than Anything At The Box Office This Year, And The Mainstream Press Barely Noticed

    The American mainstream news media has been obsessed with pushing/covering politics for the last 6 or 7 months, and both political parties are giving the media massive stockpiles of ammo for ragebait-fuelled ad revenue. Why would they ever cover video games, something mainstream media outlets have historically blamed some of the worst tradgedies in American history on, when it will neither give them free ad revenue, nor continue to villanize video games?

    intensely_human, do games w Zelda-Inspired Plucky Squire Shows What Happens When A Game Doesn't Trust Its Players

    That’s kind of the definition of a video game: a game in which the rules are enforced by an unconsciously intelligent mechanism.

    A normal game requires trusting the players; a video game does not.

    kaffiene,

    Pretty sure you misunderstood the point being made.

    magic_lobster_party, do games w Zelda-Inspired Plucky Squire Shows What Happens When A Game Doesn't Trust Its Players

    I haven’t played Plucky yet, but this is what I liked about Tunic. It gives you a hint, and then trusts the player to experiment with the hint they’re given. It makes it feel like your own adventure.

    proper, do gaming w Division 2 Players Really Hate The New Shift To Seasonal Characters
    @proper@lemmy.world avatar

    they just looked directly to rainbow 6 didn’t they

    aStonedSanta,

    ?? Did you read the article. How does this relate to rainbow six at all lol

    proper,
    @proper@lemmy.world avatar

    I didn’t, and it doesn’t. I’ll just be on my way…

    aStonedSanta,

    Lmao I had the same initial reaction and read the article and was like oh. Okay. 😆. For any other perusers they mean your character resets every season aka Diablo or Path of Exile seasons/leagues.

    Blackmist, do games w The First Borderlands Movie Clip Looks Like An SNL Skit

    I didn’t even like the game, so the chance of this appealing to me is less than zero.

    BadmanDan, do gaming w Geoff Keighley Wants You To Lower Your Expectations For Summer Game Fest

    I miss E3

    aStonedSanta, do games w New FPS Built Using Doom Tech Is Better Than Most AAA Shooters

    Watched a YouTube video on this last night. youtu.be/_rcuZvU-BiQ?si=3uYytK4vkOA-5yJx

    Plan to buy it later. Lol

    DoucheBagMcSwag, do gaming w For The First Time In A Decade, Nobody Is Working On Cyberpunk 2077

    Guess we’ll have to wait on fan mods to get v facial animations working some day if ever

    Don_alForno, (edited )

    If I were a dev, that wouldn’t be my priority in a first person Game either.

    I repeatedly spend time deciding on clothing choices etc for my character only to proceed to never actually see them outside the menu.

    Powerbomb, do gaming w Half Of PlayStation Players Still Haven't Upgraded To PS5

    I’ve been holding out for an eventual PS5 Pro version since day 1. The base PS5 having less space than my stock PS4 Pro was the biggest dealbreaker for me.

    Ephera, do gaming w Grand Theft Auto VI Now Targeting Fall 2025 Release, Take-Two Confirms

    Hmm, that seems optimistic to me…

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