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BlameTheAntifa, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

The game is grossly overpriced and infected Denuvo malware. Those things are all symptoms of Randy Pitchford being involved. I’ll pass.

biotin7, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

Randy needs to get comfy with the fact that he may go broke. Do what the doctors in goa (a state in India) did to their health minister. But in this case impact his income & force him to grovel.

philosloppy, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

…or Do Not Play

way ahead of you there, guy

Rakonat,

Couldn’t have been less interested. Borderlands hasn’t been remotely interesting since 2 and everything since then has been a soulless cash grab.

philosloppy,

I played an hour of the first game and that was enough for me, so I’m not exactly their target demo anyways.

Rakonat,

First game was just Diablo 2 but FPS with guns. But I can totally respect anyone that didn’t jive with that. The humor was very hit and miss and definitely made but a group of people who insisted they were hilarious.

massi1008,

Hard disagree.

Pre-Sequel, 3 and Wonderlands have all been great games that I had lots of fun with. I also know I’m going to have upwards of 100 hours of fun with 4. That’s what makes this whole story even more frustrating…

But I’m a patient gamer. I played the previous BL games years after they came out. I’ll do the same for this one - not because I can’t afford a 60€ price tag but because articles like this. Sad.

slaneesh_is_right,

Their games are so bad now that it would be better to not play them.

prole, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

Of course the borderlands guy would look like that

biotin7,

You ain’t exactly handsome yourself bud😅

Nikls94,

Randy Pitchfork looks like a mix of the first second generation employee of blizzard (aka Piratesoftware) and Steve buscemi

biotin7,

Now I can’t unsee this

Regrettable_incident, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash
@Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world avatar

He can deep-throat my dad’s days-dead dog’s decaying dong.

Sunsofold, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

I haven’t played 4, but I played 1, 2, and a bit of the presequel or whatever it was called. They were essentially all the same game. Run, shoot, run, shoot, hear vaguely off-color joke, run, shoot. Is there any particular reason to bother with an overpriced remake of the same old game? Is there a reason for worrying about 4KUHD textures on a game where the aesthetic is cartoony? If you’re a 9 year old who’s never played, and it’s all on mom’s dime, I could see being tricked into buying it by the advertisers, but why is anyone else excited about it?

echodot,

Any interest I had in the game, which was already fairly minimal, was completely obliterated when the price was announced.

thatKamGuy,

I played the hell out of the first Borderlands (including New Game+ across all expansions), but promptly bounced off 2 & Pre-Sequel because it literally just felt like more of the same and I was already sated.

BL3 and now BL4 are literally just more of the same, but with ever increasingly more egregious monetisation.

QuoVadisHomines,

2 was good because of the Handsome Hack commentary.

MadameBisaster,

Started with 2, liked it, hated 3, now playing 4 since yesterday with a friend and gameplay wise it has a bunch of changes/improvements. So if someone enjoys the gameplay its good. I mean cod and battlefield and fifa are also nearly the same game every time ;)

nyctre,

Yeah, you won’t hear us defending those games either ;)

C1pher, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash
@C1pher@lemmy.world avatar

This has been there already with Ubisoft games. It wont end well for the IP and also, the main problem is Randy Pitchford. That problem wont be fixed any time soon.

58008, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash
@58008@lemmy.world avatar

Why is he like this?

figjam,

his new game is failing. He must keep it in the zeitgeist for as long as possible. This is just some guy trying to be relevant

dustyData,

For a long time he was told by everyone in public and in private that he was awesome and perfect, and the greatest game developer, which made him a ton of money and very famous. Now his latest game is failing and his overinflated ego is panicking.

echodot,

Was he?

Personally I’ve always thought of him as a bit of a prick.

brsrklf, (edited )

Really? Was that a long time ago?

Seems to me he and Gearbox have been in lots of shit for a while now (the infamous USB drive, serious plagiarism accusations when Borderlands did an artistic 180 during development, Alien : Colonial Marines released broken as hell after funneling its funding to make BL2, Duke Nukem Forever…)

And every time Pitchford’s (mostly unnecesary) public answer has been terrible.

frezik,

As far as DNF goes, it was probably an easy profit for the company. They bought it from 3D Realms and patched it up into something releasable. I doubt they spent a lot on the deal. It didn’t have to sell many copies for them to hit break even.

Not a bad business decision, and I’m glad that development story had a definitive ending.

Lfrith,

It’s the year of the wealthy personalities who dont keep their mouth shut because they believe they are right and everyone will agree with their points and love them.

Happening right now with Mark Cuban on the NBA side.

SapphironZA, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

Sorry I can’t hear you Randy. I am playing silksong and after that, I am doing another BG3 playthrough.

mushroommunk,

Or an Expedition 33 new game+ This is truly a great year for games, current post aside

LiveLM, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

Gearbox was been scummy for a while now. Customers can learn to stop giving them money or can keep putting up with this.

aesthelete,

Borderlands 3 kinda sucked it. I realized when I played it that they had hit peak during Borderlands 2.

SaharaMaleikuhm,

Eh, the people are dumb as fuck and will keep buying their slop. Just look at Nintendo, one of the most horrible companies out there, releasing the same 5 games over and over again, but the idiots keep buying. They will keep buying their Mario Kart until it’s $200

moonburster,

They destroyed the first update for risk of rain 2 when they bought it as well. They kinda made my favourite game a lot worse

CaptainBlinky, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

Welp, that’s what I did. Got my money back. I’ll buy it when it’s $19.99.

Peruvian_Skies,

You should get it for free elsewhere. Don’t give this asshole your money.

Codilingus,

Denuvo :'(

SoleInvictus,

And Empress is gone, though they were pretty toxic so that’s no big loss for me.

CaptainBlinky,

That’s an option, but there were a lot of people involved in making the game. I’m not a fan of collective punishment. They most probably did their best, he’s just a shit spokesperson.

TheLowestStone,
@TheLowestStone@lemmy.world avatar

I was going to do that originally but now I’m never playing it.

CaptainBlinky,

I’m not going to punish the entire development team just because he’s a tool.

TheLowestStone,
@TheLowestStone@lemmy.world avatar

They got paid already and most of them will be laid off or moved to different projects by the time the games is $20.

echodot,

It’s not that he’s a tool it’s at the game it has poor performance. And being a tool is just a guarantee that issue will never be fixed.

So in a way I kind of do blame the team, they must have done testing they know what the performance is like.

jimerson,
@jimerson@lemmy.world avatar

I’m enjoying the game. And yeah, a lot of cool folk work there. Sure a few suck, but there are a lot of neat humans that poured their heart into this game.

I also haven’t had a single issue on a two year old mid-tier laptop so i can’t empathize with the fuss over performance. I’m sure there are older machines out there that wont run it at 1000FPS or whatever.

At the end of the day, it’s a game. Calm tf down and play something else rather than raise your blood pressure over something so relatively trivial.

Deep breath people. It’s a game. Support it or don’t. Edginess not required for this decision.

chicken, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

I played the first one but after that the formula felt pretty samey and I was bored of it. Would a fourth Borderlands game even be good if it wasn’t laggy?

sness,

Don’t let the name fool you, it’s the sixth game.

rayquetzalcoatl, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash
@rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world avatar

I have come to accept that this is a PR campaign to plaster the name everywhere all over social media and let it worm its way into currently pissed off gamers’ heads for a few months down the line when they’ve calmed down and inevitably buy the fucking thing.

Pitchford is a slimeball. Rarely has a man who is allegedly not an insurance or used-car salesman given off such nakedly scummy vibes.

We need to stop giving free publicity to this little marketing man, and to this poorly optimised, expensive game.

Lfrith,

I don’t think there’s anything that well thought out, and it’s just someone who takes things personally and cant resist blurting out their thoughts.

Since after what he said my thinking was even if my friends beg me to get the game on discount I wont because of how personally irritated the comments have made me.

rayquetzalcoatl,
@rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world avatar

Not casting aspersions towards you personally, but we all know how gamer boycotts go generally. As in, they don’t. People cave and buy the games anyway, once they’re over the initial outrage. This is 100% marketing.

Lfrith,

Those people buy games regardless. But this feels like a personal challenge of being called out. Like the face popping out and going “yeah I knew you couldn’t resist bitch”. Usually there isn’t that psychological push back being put out there. It’s not needed.

Linktank, do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

You got it!

MudMan, (edited ) do games w 'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

I swear I have no idea why they let him talk. He doesn't even own the company, surely someone at 2K could just go... you know... shush.

I don't even think the BL4 thing is that bad, on the face of it. There is really no need to make it worse.

"We have been made aware of some performance issues in certain systems in our new release, we'll be looking into performance improvements in future patches". It's not that hard. At this point just copy/paste whatever the other thousand UE5 games said, go fix the wonky precompilation boot step and stop digging a hole.

Hell, it's even easier than that, because they have actually pretty much put that out. All he really needed to do was shut up about it.

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