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yamanii, do games w Starfield Is Bethesda's Lowest-Rated Game On Steam
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This is easily their best game post morrowind, in both story and gameplay, but I’m also not playing it anymore since it’s so cpu heavy that it’s forcing me to wait for fan patches or something; and I’m playing Cyberpunk just fine.

Cethin,

Is it really? What makes you say that? I don’t agree. There’s no more role play than FO4 (likely less). They removed the “yes, no, sarcastic, more information” wheel but the functionality is literally identical, just presented differently. You have relatively little freedom in how you play the game. The systems connecting things together also do a poor job connecting it. I don’t care for it. I am a huge fan of sci-fi and have been playing Bethesda games for a long time, and this one doesn’t do it for me.

1simpletailer, do games w Starfield Is Bethesda's Lowest-Rated Game On Steam
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Starfield just doesn’t look or play like a game that came out in 2023. Fallout 4 was already behind the curve for it’s time, and Starfield is basically just Fallout 4 in Space 8 years later. Rpgs have evolved in both gameplay and narrative and Bethesda just isn’t keeping up. Don’t know if it’s a skill issue or it’s corporate suits playing it safe and setting unreasonable deadlines, probably a mix of both.

Starfield may be a success financially and find a fan base for now, but it’s going to be forgotten soon by most and definitely won’t be seeing rereleases a decade later.

finthechat, do games w Starfield Is Bethesda's Lowest-Rated Game On Steam
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It just wasn't that good. Not terrible, but very bland. I put 30 hours in but finally stopped when I realized I wasn't having fun, I was only chasing the idea of fun.

I don't even like DND and I thought BG3's first act put the entire story of Starfield to shame.

Now I'm playing through Phantom Liberty and loving the hell out if it.

Thranduil,

I started liberty by accident trying to level up a bit. Figured i would take my leave and come back later only for the dlc to fail because the thing chrashed and person was not saved

finthechat,
@finthechat@kbin.social avatar

Lol the same thing happened to me the first time I tried it.

I went to the assigned area, chatted with the quest NPC, then I wanted to just murder all the hostiles in the area, so I went to find a good sniping spot... and then the quest failed because I left the area. RIP that NPC, RIP Phantom Liberty.

batmangrundies,

Yeah you put it really well.

I generally feel the same way about all Bethesda games. I’ll return after some DLC and Mods have been released.

There is some pretty cringe writing and stylistic choices this time around. Space cowboys and Freestar were conceptualized by a child and the PG pirate brigade are embarassing.

There are some bones for a pretty great empire building mod though. Can’t wait to see a sim-settlements type mod for Starfield.

CaptainEffort,

Space cowboys and Freestar were conceptualized by a child

Whoa whoa hold up, I agreed until here. Space cowboys are great, have you never seen Firefly?

kmkz_ninja,

You’re enjoying Cyberpunk, but Starfield was bland to you? Night City is sparse and empty as hell.

As an aside, the corpo storyline in Starfield is miles ahead of the corpo sroryline in Cyberpunk.

Furbag,

The Ryujin quest line is exactly what I expected the corpo background to be like. It’s too bad the backgrounds/origins aren’t fleshed out enough beyond what is essentially the prologue of Cyberpunk.

arefx,

They really turned Cyberpunk around it’s so fun. I played maybe an hour of it on launch and was like “what is this shit”, started playing with 2.0 and the story is cool, the characters are rad, the game is beautiful, combat is fun (enemies a bit too spongey for me but not awful, better combat than witcher 3).

Nima,
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I feel like I was so hyped for the Starfield release, but playing it wasn’t as exciting as I thought.

BG3 released and I wasn’t expecting it. But I’ve had such a blast with it that I can’t stop playing.

I want to come back to Starfield later when they have had time to get mod support goin and whatnot. but for now, I have other titles to play to keep me happy.

mojo, do games w Starfield Is Bethesda's Lowest-Rated Game On Steam

Gamers are known for never bandwagoning or over reacting.

war,
@war@kbin.social avatar

And poof, just like that the criticism has been invalidated! Great job!

SnowdenHeroOfOurTime,

Glad you understand. It’s great when people on the Internet understand that their backlash against a very popular thing doesn’t matter because the popular thing is still beloved by millions

Rampsquatch, do games w Starfield Is Bethesda's Lowest-Rated Game On Steam

That is damning considering Fallout 76 is on steam.

Kolanaki,
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It’s been out longer and has improved over time. I’d wait until Starfield has been out for about the same length of time, see if things even out or continue to trend down.

What needs improvement in Starfield, though, isn’t likely to actually be improved. Can’t even think of a time where a game’s story was re-written over time to be better.

FluorideMind,

Eh it’s pretty standard beth game. It’ll be a great platform for mods to build on.

Kolanaki,
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That’s really all I am looking forward now; the toolkit. So I can make my own quests that don’t suck.

seliaste,
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Ff 14 is an example of that

distantsounds, do games w Starfield Is Bethesda's Lowest-Rated Game On Steam

It’s just a clunky reskin of fo4 with no depth. I’ve put about 50 hrs in at this point & will probably continue for a bit because it’s a comforting loot cycle that pleases my lizard brain. It really lacks the feeling exploration possibilities that Skyrim & fallout worlds have. The bugs, UI, bland emptiness, and shit tier maps are why I wouldn’t recommend…but is a decent time kill if you’ve enjoyed their previous games

Kaldo,
@Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

Same, I pirated it to give it a try, put in a few dozen hours to make sure I'm not missing anything but left pretty disappointed tbh. It has a strong interesting opening but the more you try to get into the nitty gritty details, the more shallow and flawed the game becomes until you're just doing chores for the sake of it. Some people find enjoyment in these chores but it ain't me, maybe in a few years it becomes better. I got phantom liberty instead and am having a blast there instead

DarkThoughts,

Wut? The beginning is easily the worst part of the game.

Kaldo,
@Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

When I say opening / beginning I don't mean the 20 minutes of prologue, I mean the first ~5 hours of game showing new mechanics and worlds to you, making the illusion that there's lot of unique fun content to do. Eventually it all started to look like same formulaic shallow crap to me and the game didn't live up to that initial impression of freedom, exploration and progression, it's half baked in everything.

DarkThoughts,

The game didn't open up for me until about 8-10 hours in and felt really weird and restricted during that time. No idea what impression of freedom, exploration and progression you're talking about here because the beginning does not give you anything like that at all with how it makes you follow the very boring main quest.

CaptainEffort,

Same happened to me, I pirated it to try it out and after an hour or two I got bored and called it quits. I returned to it once more but after maybe 5 hours I just uninstalled it.

Klystron,

Verbatim my opinion. There’s nothing enjoyable here folks unless you like turning off your brain, fast travelling to planets and 100% search missions.

StereoTrespasser, do games w Starfield Is Bethesda's Lowest-Rated Game On Steam

I’m not surprised…it’s just okay. I’ve put maybe 25 hours into it and it’s not grabbing me like I hoped it would. Fast traveling everywhere is boring, inventory management is a nightmare, and the UI is frustrating. The last straw for me was during the " Rook Meets Queen" mission >!where I’m supposed to be deep undercover in the Crimson Fleet yet I can’t progress until I pay them 45,000 credits because there’s a bounty on my head. Seriously? Either I’m undercover or I’m not. !< So I put it down to revisit Cyberpunk, and I’m hoping once I get through that the kinks will be ironed out and the mod tools with MO2 support will be ready. I still have more fun playing a heavily modded Skyrim.

fibojoly,

What? The developer whose UI has been consistently shite from game to game, only for mods to come to the rescue, has released yet another obnoxious UI? Whose games are pretty much universally “great with mods”, is meh right out the gate? Colour me shocked!

CaptainEffort,

It’s crazy that every game they release somehow has worse UI than the previous one

Dublin112,

Funny, that’s the exact mission that made me lose interest in the game as well. >!I hopped on that day for the base building and eventually ship building but I guess I had a stolen item on me and triggered the mission. I don’t want to be forced to do this mission or pay the fine when all I wanted to do was play a different portion of the game that was available to me.!<

aaaaa, do games w Starfield Is Bethesda's Lowest-Rated Game On Steam

It's OK, it's definitely less polished than other Bethesda games and given they're not known for polish it'd saying something.

It gives a 'rushed out the door for a midnight deadline' vibe.

rip_art_bell, do games w Starfield Is Bethesda's Lowest-Rated Game On Steam
@rip_art_bell@lemmy.world avatar

Fast travel simulator 2023

Zdvarko, do games w Starfield Is Bethesda's Lowest-Rated Game On Steam

No surprise, if they had only upgraded their game engine so you didn’t have so many cut scenes would have been much better.

kurcatovium,

By cut scenes you mean loading screens, right? Right!?

Zdvarko,

Yeah that

mnemonicmonkeys,

Actually, a surprising number of areas with doors or fast travel between them don’t need it. The entirety of New Atlantis’s exterior is a single cell. Same with Neon

Dylan, do games w Starfield Is Bethesda's Lowest-Rated Game On Steam

As buggy as Fallout 4 was I absolutely loved it and got me started on the Bethesda Train. Played New Vegas and Skyrim afterwards and those were great.

Starfield almost bored me to tears. Combat and Ship building are great but everything in between is just very average at best.

And then with Cyberpunk releasing it’s 2.0 update and DLC these past week, I have almost no urge to go back to Starfield anytime soon.

brsrklf,

New Vegas uses Bethesda’s Fallout 3 engine, but it was made by Obsidian. It’s not the most representative of what Bethesda does (well, except the part where it’s very buggy, I guess. That part mostly comes with the engine).

Jaysyn, do games w Starfield Is Bethesda's Lowest-Rated Game On Steam
@Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

...so far...

Sho, do games w Starfield Is Bethesda's Lowest-Rated Game On Steam

As to be expected from Todd “it just works” Howard 🙄 He has this weird ability to snatch failure from the jaws of success alot of the time.

xkforce, do games w Starfield Is Bethesda's Lowest-Rated Game On Steam

So you’re telling me that a game that is an unoptimized, buggy, shallow mess isn’t game of the year? No…

ColeSloth, do games w Starfield Is Bethesda's Lowest-Rated Game On Steam

“Bethesda has garnered a bit of a reputation for releasing games with loads of bugs in them,”

A bit? Lolololol

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