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notannpc, do games w China announced new laws to limit microtransactions, affecting major corporations like Tencent.

Limiting micro transactions and banning predatory reward schemes in video games is genuinely a good thing. We need this to spread around the world.

Th4tGuyII, do games w China announced new laws to limit microtransactions, affecting major corporations like Tencent.
@Th4tGuyII@kbin.social avatar

I would've expected to see something like thus out of the EU rather than China, but at least somebody's making the first move against the predatory monetisation of apps

redcalcium,

If only those “think of the children” politicians would do this instead of attempting to ban encryption.

flambonkscious,

You know you look really bad when the CCP shows you up!

ahriboy,
@ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

If China’s plan is successful, other countries will follow suit.

PS: RIP my free intertwined fates in Gaming (Jiaming) Impact.

eluvatar,

Hi Tim

Stovetop, do games w China announced new laws to limit microtransactions, affecting major corporations like Tencent.

I haven’t had a look at the original text from China, but wondering how much they accounted for. Any of these rules could be easily circumvented if they didn’t account for multiple scenarios.

Rewards for spending money within a game for the first time

“We don’t have a reward for spending money for the first time, but everyone does have a digital coupon for $5 off of their first $10 purchase when they make an account.”

Rewards for buying consecutive microtransactions

“The players don’t get any extras when they buy more of our digital currency, but every gacha pull does make the next 5 pulls a bit cheaper.”

Rewards for daily log-ins.

“No, we’re not giving rewards for daily log-ins, but players can buy this bonus that adds a gift-giving NPC to the main town for 30 days, who will trade a small parcel of premium currency for a single gold coin once per day.”

lolcatnip, (edited )

How do Chinese judges react to transparent attempts to circumvent laws that have the same effect as just breaking the law? I wouldn’t expect them to fall for the “I’m not touching you” defense.

ByGourou,

This is China, their CEO will misteriously disappear if they try something so obvious.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

I guess we just shouldn’t make any law about anything since people can go “well akshually” about it. /s

Stovetop,

That’s not what I’m saying. I was just hoping this law has teeth, because companies who are greedy for money will always try to circumvent whatever new restrictions are sent their way.

I’m thinking back to earlier policies set by China like the restrictions against showing undead/human remains in video games. World of Warcraft set up all these euphemistic workarounds to circumvent the law while realistically changing as little as possible, basically defeating the purpose of it.

China outlawed loot boxes, but then season passes and gatcha models were implemented in short order to continue exploiting consumers. If the law doesn’t account for all sorts of scenarios that can be abused, it’s just going to be a game of cat and mouse.

redcalcium,

Well, it’s China. How the commerce law affect you will depend heavily on who you know in the government and the party. If the new law is heavily pushed by someone important, they probably won’t turn a blind eye for minor technicality. Someone up high probably got mad with their kids getting addicted with microtransactions and want to neuter it. Once that person lost interest or no longer in power, the enforcement will probably become much lenient.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

World of Warcraft set up all these euphemistic workarounds to circumvent the law while realistically changing as little as possible, basically defeating the purpose of it.

The only one I’m aware of is China’s cultural distaste for showing bones, so Blizzard had to hide the skeletal structure in the Undead player class. In other words, it wasn’t about the undead, it was only about showing bones.

What else did they do?

yamanii, do games w China announced new laws to limit microtransactions, affecting major corporations like Tencent.
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

If there’s a behavior psychologist/researcher involved in the creation of a product, it’s evil, simple as. Those gacha games absolutely use them.

Dark_Arc,
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I think you could go two ways with that. The psychologist could be under a mandate to give feedback to ensure your game is not going to be an addiction or they could be under a mandate to make it as addictive as possible. The latter is way more likely but I wouldn’t totally rule out the value add of any psychologist to any game.

Nephalis, do games w China announced new laws to limit microtransactions, affecting major corporations like Tencent.

Do you all expect localization is tied to laws for china? I realy don’t think so. Most games are split into global and asia/chinese versions anyway. Why should they remove these mechanics when it isn’t necessary for the market they operate in?

echo64,

The thought process is that for many games, the majority of their revenue comes from these mechanics and from China. The games themselves will need to change to get revenue flowing. And new games won’t be made with this revenue source in general.

This is similar to how eu regulations can lead to global changes sometimes, China is a big enough market to affect things globally.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Yep, I’m not in the EU but thanks to the GDPR I still see the cookies thing on almost every website I go, sometimes these things have a good ripple effect.

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E, do games w China announced new laws to limit microtransactions, affecting major corporations like Tencent.
Nacktmull, do games w China announced new laws to limit microtransactions, affecting major corporations like Tencent.
@Nacktmull@lemmy.world avatar

Well done, I hope other countries will follow.

xePBMg9, do games w China announced new laws to limit microtransactions, affecting major corporations like Tencent.

This will also make for better and more enjoyable games. I wonder if players will want to spend more times with those games then.

JohnDClay, do games w China announced new laws to limit microtransactions, affecting major corporations like Tencent.

There’s so much addiction and gambling engineered into micro transactions, it’s crazy. I’m glad China is regulating it.

Wahots, do games w China announced new laws to limit microtransactions, affecting major corporations like Tencent.
@Wahots@pawb.social avatar

God, I hope they do that here. Would clear the appstores and other stores of 90% of shovelware overnight.

Schaedelbach, do games w Assassin's Creed Mirage is Now One of the Lowest-Rated Games in the Series

The rating is 77. 77 is the lowest rating a game in the main series of Assassins Creed has received. This means the other games have 78 or up. How in the world is this considered bad? For an entire fucking franchise? Not a fan of the series or anything but I just think it’s ridiculous how this is an actual headline! Don’t the journalists have nothing else to report on regarding video games and the industry? Layoffs? Toxic people and business practices? Microtransactions?

Nah, instead they go: “pretty good (but not great) game is slightly less good than other pretty good (but not great) games in an overall pretty good (but not great) franchise.” Ugh!

AnonTwo,

To be fair, just because one article exists doesn't mean other articles can't exist. Not every article has to be of equal importance.

Cycloprolene,

In case you haven’t noticed, for the last 30 years any garbage can gets >70 rating.

coffinwood,

The headline says it’s the lowest-rated game in the series, not that Mirage is a bad game. The article bases itself on a single data point, which leaves a lot of room for interpreting. Which the author does a little.

But it’s nowhere mentioned or claimed that Mirage is a badly-reviewed game or doesn’t sell well. It’s just the lowest entry so far. And that’s what everybody should take away from that headline, followed by ignoring the hollow clickbaity article altogether.

BruceTwarzen,

I watched a review video that was praising everything in this game. "Finally another good AC." "The vombat is fun and challenging." "Looks fantastic on the new engine."
Then i watched just some guy playing it and it honestly looks janky as hell. He always got stuck while parkouring, the parkour itself seems like the same press one button to do parkour, but this time it's really jank. There is no weapon variety at all. The combat looks really bad, it looks like the least fun combat in all these kind of games. The world looks really good, but the people in the world the jank ass AI and NPC doing weird shit while looking pretty Bethesda like. I haven't played it, but how this got a 77 or anything above a 5/10 is beyond me.

beard_hunter, do games w Assassin's Creed Mirage is Now One of the Lowest-Rated Games in the Series

Me : AC Valhalla is worst AC game…

Ubisoft : Just wait…

Mojojojo1993,

Why no love for Valhalla?

I’m playing out of sync. I did Valhalla Odyssey and now I’m playing through origin. I enjoyed a lot of Valhalla. I can see how they tweaked and polished from origins. I think I preferred the scenery in Odyssey and maybe the story and people. Valhalla had best fighting and slo mo. Graphics were outstanding and voice acting was pristine by Valhalla.

coffinwood,

Valhalla is a nice action game but it’s no AC game. Especially the stealth part and name-sake Assassination gameplay take up too little space. And the skill tree they copied from PoE is just ridiculously overloaded - symptomatic for Ubisoft‘s approach to the whole game: it’s so convoluted.

I really enjoyed Valhalla but as an AC entry it disappoints.

Granixo, (edited ) do games w Assassin's Creed Mirage is Now One of the Lowest-Rated Games in the Series
@Granixo@feddit.cl avatar

Good, Ubisoft lost the way since *Revelations.

*I do think AC3 is awesome, aside from the ending of course.

Sinnz,

AC3 had too much of that boat gameplay. Worst thing about the game imo.

Mojojojo1993,

Absolutely disagree. Literally added “boat game” on every sequel. People clearly enjoyed that. I know I did. Will get a sea shanty going

JJROKCZ, do games w Assassin's Creed Mirage is Now One of the Lowest-Rated Games in the Series

From what I saw watching a few streams it seemed fine, closer to the original games but still having that slight off feeling of modern Ubisoft games. Seems like a good game on sale for $30

Rooki, do games w Assassin's Creed Mirage is Now One of the Lowest-Rated Games in the Series
@Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

hmm why tho? /j

If they just rerelease it with just new design yeah it will drop in ratings

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