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uberdroog, do games w China's internet is upset that a knock-off of its darling video game, 'Black Myth: Wukong,' is listed on Nintendo's store
@uberdroog@lemmy.world avatar

How long before the news reports the game was just stealing your data.

xavier666, do games w China's internet is upset that a knock-off of its darling video game, 'Black Myth: Wukong,' is listed on Nintendo's store

“Let them fight”

Daveyborn, do games w China's internet is upset that a knock-off of its darling video game, 'Black Myth: Wukong,' is listed on Nintendo's store
@Daveyborn@lemmy.world avatar

Does a company own the likeness of wukong? Seems kinda silly to be mad over that.

ComradeMiao,

No, only a dude from the Ming dynasty does lol

stephen01king,

What is the copyright system like in the Ming dynasty, I wonder.

ComradeMiao,

That’s an interesting question!

I found this:

The Song’s imperial successors, and especially the Ming (A.D. 1368-1644), endeavored to strengthen state control of publication, although relatively few changes were made to the formal structure of regulation until the Qing. Each post-Song dynastic code specifically forbade the unauthorized republication of governmental works on astronomy, the civil service examinations, and other materials long considered sensitive. Additionally, each contained provisions banning “devilish books.” These provisions were supplemented periodically by special decrees— as may be seen, for example, in the Hongwu Emperor’s (1368-92) orders that all works disparaging the newly founded Ming dynasty even indirectly through the use of homophonic puns be eliminated," and in the Qianlong Emperor’s (1736-96) famous decree of 1774 requiring that all literature be reviewed so that any books containing heterodox ideas could be destroyed.

Alford, William P… To steal a book is an elegant offense: intellectual property law in Chinese civilization. 1995.

stephen01king,

So does that mean the original novel’s rights belong to the Ming dynasty?

ComradeMiao,

I don’t know beyond the article I just read and cited. I’m sure it changed in the republic. It says they started a new system in the 1920s then in the PRC in 1980s. I’m sure the answer is them no that family of the author does not own it.

That said if one was to use details specific to modern Chinese or English translations I’m sure that is copyrighted

ComradeMiao, do games w China's internet is upset that a knock-off of its darling video game, 'Black Myth: Wukong,' is listed on Nintendo's store

Are they upset or does western media constantly try to portray Chinese internet users as sensitive?

Aatube,

they are upset, as upset as any normal person is against those meme clickbait garbage videos

Shiggles,

I mean this is pretty standard fare for any gamers, anywhere. But I’m sure this question is being asked in good faith :)

ComradeMiao,

Meh knock offs aren’t always bad, everything was a doom knock iff at first ;)

ComradeMiao,

Yes I do mean my comment in good faith

djsoren19,

idk, but I saw some of the insane shit they were posting when Black Myth: Wukong didn’t win Game of the Year at the Game Awards. It wouldn’t surprise me if that anger is spilling over to other targets.

icecreamtaco,
@icecreamtaco@lemmy.world avatar

Chinese internet users are overly sensitive

yesman, do games w China's internet is upset that a knock-off of its darling video game, 'Black Myth: Wukong,' is listed on Nintendo's store

Because I’m not allowed to read the article to know if this is mentioned: a big reason why this would aggravate Wukong fans is that Nintendo is a Japanese company.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Nintendo isn’t the developer though. Having a hard time figuring out where “Global Game Studio” is based out of.

Also, byebyepaywall.com is your friend

Aatube,

or bypass paywalls clean. though all this is contributing to a bit of irony...

Electricblush,
@Electricblush@lemmy.world avatar

As if random internet outrage ever cared about getting the fundamental details correct, when there is rage to be had.

AmazingAwesomator, do games w China's internet is upset that a knock-off of its darling video game, 'Black Myth: Wukong,' is listed on Nintendo's store

whatever you do, dont visit Steam.

SharkAttak, do games w China's internet is upset that a knock-off of its darling video game, 'Black Myth: Wukong,' is listed on Nintendo's store
@SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org avatar

I may be wrong but Wukong itself looks a Souls knock-off, so I don't see the problem.

Aatube,

souls is a genre tho

_NetNomad,
@_NetNomad@fedia.io avatar

that's the funny thing about genres and knock-offs, the only difference is scale. every game after pong is a knock-off of something that came before, and the great ones are the ones who purposefully or inadvertedly added something that made it a new standard for which to knock off, birthing a new genre. people hate terms like metroidvania or roguelike but imo those are the best genre names because they most clearly communicate the context and intent of the game

Kolanaki,
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every game after pong is a knock-off

Bah! Pong is just a knock-off of Tennis for Two!

Wrufieotnak,

Finally a fellow connoisseur of the true classics!

_NetNomad,
@_NetNomad@fedia.io avatar

i've even heard rumors that tennis for two is a knockoff of a sport called "tennis" although this has yet to be proved conclusively

Cethin,

The first-person shooter genre used to be called Doom Clones because they were all viewed as rip offs of Doom (which, to be fair, many were). Genre conventions are created by copying what others have done. Souls is a game series, which has been so influential that it became a genre.

Electricblush,
@Electricblush@lemmy.world avatar

I think the cultural theme of the game is more reason for the “anger” than the gameplay formula.

Its based on the most famous Chinese mythological story / fairytale about the Monkey King Wukong.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_King

I have not deep dived into it, but I think it’s a treasured and well known story in China, and I assume a lot of Chinese people are proud of their mythology being a successful story outside of China as well.

MeaanBeaan,

Also it’s what Dragon Ball is based on and it’s a primary influence for most if not all Shonen anime.

Its like getting upset when two different projects are made based on the Greek Pantheon.

SharkAttak,
@SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org avatar

This. Also, China upset cause they're being copied? Pfft.

Electricblush,
@Electricblush@lemmy.world avatar

Look, it’s a funny and ironic turn of events and my comment mainly tried to expand upon why this evokes this emotional response from some people.

Also, I don’t think most Americans identify with the shady practices of corporations either, so equating a undoubtedly shady history on copyright with the stance of all Chinese people everywhere is a bit… 🤔

As others have mentioned it’s also not accidental that the outrage is at the Nintendo store specifically. There is a lot of bad blood between the Chinese and the Japanese.

SharkAttak,
@SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Chill, where did you get that I was 'equating the stance of al chinese people'? Even the title mentions 'China internet'.. it's like saying "France is in uproar at latest Macron speech".
I know it's funny and ironic, that's why I pointed out that they're upset at the alleged copying of an non-original game concept about a myth that's been already featured in a ton of other works.

Electricblush,
@Electricblush@lemmy.world avatar

I am chill. :) No need for either of us to read spite into the others comments. Text is bad at communicating tone :)

I guess my comment was meant more in general, not at you specifically (though I understand it being in a reply of course feels that way)

I am sorry my comment came of as hostile or combative

feedum_sneedson,

西游记

frigidaphelion,

deep dove? deep doven?

SplashJackson,

And I love how much of it is fart jokes

MadBigote,

Just like Dragon Ball is based on that myth, no?

Aatube,

"Folktale" is a better description but I agree

Electricblush,
@Electricblush@lemmy.world avatar

Yea, better word indeed :)

Caesium, do games w China's internet is upset that a knock-off of its darling video game, 'Black Myth: Wukong,' is listed on Nintendo's store

hey if this stops the slip that gets chugged out on the store I’m all for it

Viri4thus, do games w China's internet is upset that a knock-off of its darling video game, 'Black Myth: Wukong,' is listed on Nintendo's store

“one user wrote” *China

Man, our media really has become utter shait.

the_captain,

The phrase “one user wrote” is often used to introduce a quote. One user wrote this, one wrote that, and another wrote that. Yeah, the generalisation from a single forum thread / few social media posts to “the whole of internet is crazy about this!” is crap, but media sensationalism has always been there. Media (and especially media about pop culture) has always been shit.

Pyr_Pressure,
@Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca avatar

I mean, when you have a few thousand two-bit internet media sites surviving off advertisement spam and hiring any freelance writer that can put together three paragraphs for $5 that’s what our media becomes.

AceFuzzLord, do games w China's internet is upset that a knock-off of its darling video game, 'Black Myth: Wukong,' is listed on Nintendo's store

Imagine that! Popular game makes a ton of money and scam companies make shameless ripoffs to try and cash in on it? Never happened before and never will! /s

MissingInteger, do games w China's internet is upset that a knock-off of its darling video game, 'Black Myth: Wukong,' is listed on Nintendo's store

This reminds me of Breath of the Wild’s fans being upset about Genshin Impact.
Of all the reasons to be upset about this gambling game…

(I’m upset that Genshin completed to Impact on my keyboard just now…
I don’t play or have ever even downloaded the game.)

lustyargonian, do games w China's internet is upset that a knock-off of its darling video game, 'Black Myth: Wukong,' is listed on Nintendo's store

Nintendo store’s seal of quantity strikes again.

Scoop!

_cryptagion, do games w China's internet is upset that a knock-off of its darling video game, 'Black Myth: Wukong,' is listed on Nintendo's store

The Chinese internet is always upset about something in gaming.

Badeendje, do games w Microsoft lays off employees in security, experiences and devices, sales, and gaming — separate from performance cuts
@Badeendje@lemmy.world avatar

Making room for the new tranche of H1B coming in I guess.

inclementimmigrant,

Nah, executive bonuses and whaleholder dividends needed to be higher.

Badeendje,
@Badeendje@lemmy.world avatar

H1Bs are payed 40-60 cents on the dollar while you can work them harder and they can’t whine or get sent home… So…it does help the bottom line.

einlander,
FenrirIII,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

I live near a big MS office. It’s definitely the H1Bs. The entire city is Indian now.

ZC3rr0r,

They also laid off folks with H1Bs. No, I suspect the real story here is that someone somewhere got convinced these jobs could be done even cheaper by AI, so they’re cutting folks to fund the datacenters basically.

MajorHavoc, do games w Microsoft lays off employees in security, experiences and devices, sales, and gaming — separate from performance cuts

It’s pretty important to me to not turn to a life of crime, but I appreciate everyone laying off their security teams, and putting all their most valuable data in one place, just in case I should change my mind…

I’m not going to change my mind, but it’s awfully considerate anyway.

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