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Plastic_Ramses, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

No, I use windows 11 and it works great.

histic,

lol

Apeman42, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@Apeman42@lemmy.world avatar

Can anyone recommend a distro (and desktop environment?) that’s going to be almost the same as desktop mode on the Steam deck? I’m getting more comfortable in that than I expected to be in any Linux, and to my surprise and delight I haven’t had to delve into the command line at all yet.

offspec,

The steam deck uses KDE Plasma 5 as its desktop environment, so anything that uses that should feel very similar. I recommend bazzite if familiarity is something that would appeal to you.

Mogofwin,

+1 for Bazzite. It has just enough guard rails to keep you from (easily) making your system unusable while still providing more freedom than windows. Install is cake. Literally clear a drive or partition for your OS and storage, download it, and you’re off to the races. just make sure to always check your build against protondb For games to see if there are any special run commands to put into steam, and you will be golden.

offspec,

Yeah I can’t say I’ve used it myself but it seems pretty straightforward and very in line with SteamOS philosophies.

Mogofwin,

Very much so. Even for non-gaming, most stuff works out of the box from the package manager, everything else you can get working with a distrobox. Ended up getting blender to work better on Bazzite with AMD GPU rendering than I could on Windows lol

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

Would I fuck myself over by putting it on a partition on the same drive as my Windows install? It’s my fastest hard drive, but I can’t just immediately give up everything I have on Windows.

Mogofwin,

I hav heard that there can be issues with windows updates messing up Bazzite if installed on the same drive. I got a separate drive just for my Bazzite install to be on the safe side.

daggermoon,

The most recent update ships Plasma 6 I believe.

Link,

That update is still is preview curently. The stable branch is still on Plasma 5

daggermoon,

Oh my bad.

valaramech, (edited )
@valaramech@fedia.io avatar

You can also install SteamOS which is literally what the Steam Deck runs.

EDIT: Disregard, I can't read.

Matt,

That is the old Debian-based operating system that ran on Steam Machines and is no longer supported. Valve really needs to remove it from their website. The version of SteamOS running on the Steam Deck is Arch-based.

valaramech, (edited )
@valaramech@fedia.io avatar

Weird, I found the Arch-based one once but now I can't find it. Everything keeps pointing me back to that page...

EDIT: All I can find now is HoloISO - which seems to be in a reasonable place, I guess.

Saprophyte,
@Saprophyte@lemmy.world avatar
pathief,
@pathief@lemmy.world avatar

The desktop environment is called KDE Plasma. Every distribution with KDE will look and feel very similar.

Fedora is a good and safe bet for a distribution.

yourNewFavouriteUser, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

linux, either endeavor or nobara

Ofiuco, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

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  • valaramech,
    @valaramech@fedia.io avatar

    I've been wondering for a little while now if WinApps will work for gaming. It uses a VM in the background but, supposedly, has a "native" experience. Thoughts?

    Minnels, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

    Installed bazzite today. Was easier than installing windows.

    commander, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

    The more people hop onto Linux the faster and better funded support for Linux development becomes. If you’re a single player gamer or play Valve multiplayer games primarily, make the jump to Linux. Get on Mint, get on Fedora, Ubuntu, etc and get off Microsoft’s shitboat. You already took off from Reddit. Wean off all these other money/data leeches

    Suck_on_my_Presence,

    I’m on Mint and have been for 2-3 years now and I’ve never had any problems with non-valve multiplayer. I don’t use any VMs and just run everything through proton and have never struggled.

    Battlebit, Helldivers, Lethal Company (+mods), Risk of Rain 2, Rocket League, Minecraft, and Split Fiction to name a few. I guarantee there are others I’ve played, but I can’t remember.

    trouble,

    Can Linux run Valorant?

    Nephalis,

    No Kernel level anti cheat will ever work on linux. But probably Windows will disable the possibillity to manipulate on kernel level either in the future.

    pinball_wizard,

    But probably Windows will disable the possibillity to manipulate on kernel level either in the future.

    Sort of, right?

    We know Windows will continue cracking down on kernel module adds, since the Crowd strike disaster.

    But I figure most anti-cheat will just shift to non-kernel and keep working.

    Of course, at that point most anti-cheat of will then work under Proton, on Linux, too.

    Which was maybe your point.

    Okay, I don’t think I added anything for you, but I’ll leave this in case it helps someone reading along with us.

    Carrot,

    Watching you reason this out was fun

    bread,
    @bread@feddit.nl avatar

    No.

    kazerniel,
    @kazerniel@lemmy.world avatar

    Thanks for this link, neat to see that Uncharted Waters Online apparently runs on Linux despite it’s ridiculously strict anti-cheat. (To this day it’s the only game I’ve played that had an issue with Process Explorer running in the background 🤦‍♂️)

    B0NK3RS, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
    @B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

    I have an older pc that I use as a a Plex server so as soon as I get some time I will fully switch to Ubuntu.

    MellowYellow13, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

    Linux is the way

    mooncake, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
    @mooncake@lemm.ee avatar

    I upgraded to Windows 11.

    I tried Linux but but so much stuff isn’t supported so I got rid of it.

    histic,

    What other then adobe and rootkit anti cheat’s don’t work

    crusa187,

    For gaming, It’s mostly niche windows things in my experience. In my case I opted to stay on linux anyway. Also worth noting, I find that outside of gaming linux is superior for work and general pc use.

    Some manufacturer programs for doing things like mouse macros or controlling LED lighting, auto hotkey scripts, some types of overlays tied to directx apis (yolomouse), etc. These things don’t and probably will never work. I think some of them might if you really know your stuff with wine, but that usually ends up being dependency hell for me and I give up more often than succeeding when trying to force a windows native program to run.

    histic,

    For the first 2 there are 3rd party programs for it the rest yea probably won’t work

    crusa187,

    Yeah I’m aware of openrgb, it has limited compatibility but seems to work ok for most of my stuff. Still haven’t found a great way to run my favorite corsair keyboard reactive lighting theme I had setup with their software in windows, but what I came up with in openrgb is good enough.

    However, I didn’t think it was possible to run autoIt or autoHotkey at all in Linux. Are you suggesting a Python script to replace it, or something else? AHK has a very peculiar syntax which I don’t believe would translate well to other languages.

    histic,

    Depends if your on x11 or Wayland ahk does have a port to x11 scripts do require modification otherwise ydotool is available on Wayland I haven’t done much research into it but appears it can do a lot of what you might want

    crusa187,

    Hey that’s pretty cool, I happen to be on x11 still but plan to switch to Wayland once Cosmic is in beta.

    This is great info, will look into this further. Ty!

    Kalon, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

    Been using Linux since 2005. Really don’t understand why so many people put up with Microsoft planned obsolescence, spyware, ads, etc. Linux is easier now than it’s ever been. Most things work out of the box if you pick a reasonable distro. If you’re going to be pushed to learn a new paradigm, do it once more by learning Linux and stop being pushed.

    karashta, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

    Jumping to Linux just picking a distro

    MellowYellow13, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

    Went to Linux a couple months ago, its freaking awesome, you’ll never look back. And it is way easier to use than people make it out to be. Also my PC has never been faster thanks to having zero bloat.

    YoiksAndAway, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

    I think I’m going to get the $30 1-year ESU and kick that can down the road. I need to run windows-only software and I can’t upgrade because of my processor. Maybe in a year’s time I’ll be ready for a new build.

    InfiniteHench, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
    @InfiniteHench@lemmy.world avatar

    I might get downvoted or whatever but Windows 11 is fine. I get it if your PC straight up can’t run it, that’s a tough spot. But as an OS it’s fine, even has a few handy features (besides all the AI crap shoehorned in). I actually like the File Explorer changes and the window snap stuff can work in the right setting.

    Random123,

    I think for many people its about how invasive it is to your privacy. Especially with the upcoming changes where you be forced to sign in with their microsoft account.

    MellowYellow13,

    No it isnt, the bloat is actually insane.

    InfiniteHench,
    @InfiniteHench@lemmy.world avatar

    Can I ask how you got Win11? And are we talking MS feature bloat or third party stuff? I had Micro Center build my PC so it didn’t come from a manufacturer. There doesn’t seem to be any third party bloat, besides the occasional fucking ad for an app in the Start menu.

    Jrockwar,

    The ads for apps, Xbox games, trial versions of Office preinstalled, the minesweeper and solitaire collection that are preinstalled but actually ad supported or non-free, depending on the region spotify/TikTok/Facebook also come preinstalled, “Movies & TV”, Bing/MS News…

    I think all of those count as bloat. I haven’t included Edge because I guess having a browser is a necessity, or copilot/cortana because you said “excluding AI features”.

    Thadrax,

    You can turn it off/remove the stuff though. Annoying, but tbh. less work than every time I had to dig into ProtonDB to get some issues resolved.

    daggermoon,

    The reason I switched from Windows is the telemetry. Yes, you can disable it but I don’t know for sure it’s actually off. I’m sure it has other back doors too. It sucks because they had something great with Windows 7 and they ruined it. Also, forcing an online account really pissed me off. I couldn’t even install WSL without using the Microsoft Store. Funny enough, the complaint I remember most about Windows 11 didn’t bother me at all. The start menu being in the center I kinda liked. I remember using an app on Windows 10 to achieve the same thing.

    celeste, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
    @celeste@kbin.earth avatar

    I can't afford a new computer right now and tariffs meaning higher prices means I can't anticipate affording one in the near future. My plan is to see where everything's at when they stop doing updates. Unfortunately.

    Random123,

    You can likely use that same pc for linux if youre open to that

    celeste,
    @celeste@kbin.earth avatar

    I'm somewhat open to the idea, but the thought of messing up and not having any computer other than my phone until i figure it out is tough to get over.

    ninjaturtle,
    @ninjaturtle@lemmy.today avatar

    If you can install another driver onto the computer, you can put Linux on that and kept the windows OS still, in case you need it. This is dual booting. You chose which OS you want when booting up.

    celeste,
    @celeste@kbin.earth avatar

    Is this something that's relatively fool proof to do? I'm very good at imagining disasters. That's the big mental block I got when I thought about dual booting before.

    communist,
    @communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

    If you install ventoy on a usb and put windows and bazzite on it, you can easily switch between things.

    i have 15 years of experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot on matrix

    celeste,
    @celeste@kbin.earth avatar

    Thank you! The wall in my brain keeping me from doing it is a bit smaller now

    communist,
    @communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

    note that you should absolutely make a backup of all your important files before you muck about with installing different operating systems, it will wipe your drive, so, yeah.

    if you do that and have both on a ventoy usb it is pretty much impossible to fuck something up

    histic,

    As long as you go with a mainstream distro you can’t really mess it up if you play games try bazzite it’s a atomic distro so it’s hard to break since the system files are read only and if an update breaks it has a duplicate file system to fall back on from before the update and is just as easy if not easier then windows to install

    celeste,
    @celeste@kbin.earth avatar

    That sounds pretty cool, actually, that it.s protected against me breaking it. I've always got that worry

    daggermoon,

    You could always reinstall Windows if something does go wrong. Just create an installer USB as backup.

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