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surewhynotlem, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Torchlight 2 if you like the gear gathering and optimization.

squirrelwithnut, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Last Epoch. It has the best crafting and best skill system of any ARPG IMO.

spedswir,

Absolutely this, the crafting system is a great balance of getting what you want but also giving you something to try again and again for.

Basically that and the talent trees inside skills sold me on this game.

squirrelwithnut,

And it has an actual endgame, leaderboards, and it’s half the price of Diablo 4. It’s a no-brainer IMO.

clearleaf, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Lord of the rings on GBA is a pretty decent option if all you can do is emulate old systems.

Nacktmull, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?
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There are many good games listed here. However, focus on Path of Exile. It´s what Diablo 3 should have been.

Slayan, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

The incredible adventure of van helsing.

Sanctus, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?
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Since the good ones have been said, allow me to give a niche option; Untold Legends. Grab youself a psp or an emulator and enjoy. It slaps.

Ketram,

Yo, I got a PSP as a kid and this game came with it. Very dark, an absolute trip of a game.

tiredofsametab, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Torchlight 2 should scratch that itch. To me, Path of Exile is something the Diablo series could have been but wasn't exactly? Though I haven't played it in a number of years, so I may be mis-remembering exactly what it was like. I seem to think it was more like a point-and-click RPG with kinda Diablo-like combat.

Glide,

Path of Exile has “evolved”, and not in a way I like, in the most recent years.

It’s a very fast, clear-speed focused game, now, more so than ever. Even inside it’s genre, it’s exceptionally build focused and not very interactive during play, which is impressive, considering these are things the genre is known for.

yokonzo, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Oh God there’s so many options I’m honestly not sure where I’m gonna find the time to play all of these now but I sure want to

Clasm, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

I’ve had a lot of fun with Book of Demons, which is a bit more simplified, but really respects whatever amount of time I have to put into it!

Donjuanme,

I’m so excited for their future projects, book of aliens will be a day 1 pre order for me. There are just a few things I’d change with the gameplay of book of demons, and it would be nice if the references were a bit more subtle, but it’s a great(if simplified) Diablo 2 meets rogue like multi class deck builder amalgamation.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Book of Demons was so good. Shame the roadmap the indie studio made couldn’t be met. It was wildly ambitious.

Norgur, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

As an addition to all the great titles already mentioned: Wolcen

It was pretty rough around the edges when it released, but they since finished it and I liked it quite a lot.

ShadowRam, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Path of Exile,

The true successor to Diablo 2

wildginger, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Path of Exile.

Its 100% free, so you can play it like a demo until you are either fully in or bored.

It gets a season refresh every 3ish months with an entirely new mechanic, so most experienced players restart it 4 times a year, play a new build, and then stop playing when bored and return at the new season so its always got reasons to peek back in and see if you want to rejoin.

The leveling system is a little daunting at first, but the base game is completely playable newbie blind even if you pick “suboptimally” from the skill tree. If youre too worried about FoMo, there are tons of guides online for builds, both top level and newbie friendly.

The attack/skill system is very interesting and completely moddable, tons of replayablility.

If you like diablo, try PoE.

wildcardology,

Looking forward to PoE2

Haagel, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Path of Exile is like Diablo for adults. It’s much more dark and intense in my opinion. It’s worth checking out because the New Zealanders who make it are genuinely good guys.

yokonzo,

It looks cool, the first one seems to be free as well

Donjuanme,

The second one will be free as well, it isn’t even in beta yet. All micro transactions (I’m sure all the visual ones, not sure about stash tabs but I think they would be as well) will be usable in both games as long as you’re using the same account.

Path of exile is a wonderful experience, I’d suggest watching nyxvellum on YouTube, he started playing path of exile as a Diablo 3/4 player, and has good takes both on starting blindly and using a build guide.

Don’t be intimidated, don’t listen to the trolls and detectors, you can play the entirety of the campaign without 2 clues to the game mechanics. End game you might find more difficult, but by then you’ve experienced a bit of everything and might be interested in pursuing something different from when you started playing.

If you’re going to start path of exile I’ll give you 2 tips, 1) get a generic basic super open loot filter (use one from the path of exile website and it’ll tie to your account and be updated automatically), 2) elemental resistances (to their cap) and HP are the most important stats, chaos resistance and damage being second most important.

It’s a wonderful game with a very active community and development studio.

jeff,
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Haha, yeah, free. I totally haven’t spent hundreds of dollars on the game. It’s over a decade with thousands of hours though. I haven’t really played the last couple years though, but that’s mostly because I have small children and a career

simple, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Last Epoch seems to be the most popular recent one. It’s currently in early access but it’s releasing in a week or so.

yokonzo,

Okay I’m liking the current class selection, still a little sparse but I mean it’s early access so whatever. But the reason this game is going in my wishlist is this one image https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/899770/ss_f9e078d5e422403bf14804d0220fa887f20fbfb8.jpg?t=1707861355

That looks so fucking cool

PlantJam,

Those fifteen classes are all we’re getting for last epoch. Two of them won’t be live until launch on February 21 (falconer and warlock), but there’s a ton of diversity between those classes.

FilthyHands, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?
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Grim Dawn

actionjbone,

Grim Dawn is “What if a sequel to Diablo 2, but not Diablo 3?”

yokonzo,

Oh? I’ve only actually played 3 so I have no reference to 2 and what the differences are

mindlight,

Old timer here… Diablo 2 has a story with an atmosphere that sucks you in. In that sense Diablo 3 was a real disappointment.

Now, if you’re going for Diablo 2 it’s the remastered version you want. The game is like 20 years old and not made for widescreen so it really feels dated on a modern screen. Also, prepare for isometric pixel graphics.

loobkoob, (edited )

Grim Dawn also has a mod called Reign Of Terror that lets you play the entirety of Diablo 2 in GD, complete with classes, skills and items! It has some differences because it's built on Grim Dawn's systems, so it has the dual-class system from Grim Dawn (with similarly laid out skill trees), item affixes work like Grim Dawn, etc, but it feels great to play! And you can combine Grim Dawn classes with D2 classes, D2 classes with other D2 classes, or just play the D2 campaign with a regular Grim Dawn build. It's great!

EDIT: spelling

GroteStreet,

Omg how have I not heard about this. I’m blaming you for my lack of social life in the next couple weeks. Not that I have one to begin with.

Godort,

I’ll see you at the end of Act 2 when you remember what a fucking slog Act 3 was and decide you’ve scratched the itch.

I’m now just learning of this too and intend to do the same

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Act 3

Those fucking demon pygmies! Whenever I played necro, I always corpse exploded all of them

Donjuanme,

Thanks for this!

d3Xt3r,

Another option is to get Grim Dawn, and then get the Reign of Terror mod. It’s basically Diablo 2 recreated almost completely + some extra content.

But since you’ve never played Diablo 2, I’d recommend playing it first in some form (D2R or PD2) so you can appreciate the storyline (and the epic cutscenes) - and then play the Grim Dawn mod.

yokonzo,

Grim dawn looks cool aesthetically and I’m liking the UI and how big the skill tree looks. Are any of the expansions any good?

Drusas,

Absolutely. All of the expansions are good, but especially the ones that add extra masteries (classes).

Rinn,

All of them, honestly.

The Crucible is the weakest - it’s just an arena mode, but it’s got a lot of utility for speed leveling new characters + some QoL for existing ones.

Ashes of Malmouth is the direct continuation of the base game’s story, adds Necromancer and Inquisitor which are both very well-loved masteries, and you need it for Forgotten Gods anyway. The zones are a bit meh - great overall mood but you spend a lot of time in cramped corridors.

Forgotten Gods adds Oathkeeper (very fun) and tons of huge new zones with a refreshingly different vibe to the rest of the game. And you can go to this expansion’s zones from the start! (Except that you probably shouldn’t on your first playthrough, you’d get destroyed and you probably want to focus on the main story anyway.)

I’d wait for a sale and get them all if you like this genre, or just base game + AoM if you just want to give it a shot (and technically you could hold off on AoM until you’re close to the end of the campaign).

ampersandrew,
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How would you say Titan Quest compares?

toxicbubble,

i only played a little of both. i like titan quest for the story and mythology, but grim dawn seems more refined and modern, it’s actually by the SAME team (today i learned)!

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Yeah, that last part I knew, but I started diving into this genre with Titan Quest because the sequel is allegedly coming out this year.

toxicbubble,

forgot about that, I would personally wait for the sequel but the first game is cheap anyway

Davel23,

The Titan Quest sequel is being done by a completely different team, no guarantee it captures the same magic as the original.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

I'm aware, but it will likely be mechanically similar. If it turns out to be a Bloodlines 2 situation, I can always just stick to the first game and Grim Dawn, maybe V Rising. And all of that is assuming that as I spend more time in Titan Quest I still enjoy it.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

I enjoyed Titan Quest more, but that may be down to the less grimdark aesthetics. Gameplay wise they’re both fine hack ‘n’ slashes.

FilthyHands,
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Haven’t played it. My progression was Diablo 2 -> Torchlight 1 and 2 -> Grim Dawn

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