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frog_brawler, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I run Fedora KDE now, but I’m going to keep my Windows 10 install on Windows 10.

HexesofVexes,

How are you finding it?

frog_brawler,

No complaints about Fedora KDE specifically. I’ve had it on my spare laptop since version 30 or so. Desktop is on 41 now. The only “issues” I’ve had running this full-time is lack of support for Fidelity Active Trader Pro (which kinda sucks anyway), I haven’t been able to make my bluetooth shipping label printer work yet, and I haven’t gotten my Logi MX Keys / Master S mouse working as it works in Logi Options (on windows or mac) to switch over to my work mac as intended. Otherwise, I prefer it to other distros I’ve used.

HexesofVexes,

Thanks for the feedback - currently weighing up disros (was thinking mint, but a few folks have praised fedora KDE based distros now).

AvailableFill74, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Linux has some problems that I just can never find answers for.

#1. Can’t do 4k 340hz on my display port 1.4 cable. Even though I can on windows and Mac. In Linux the option is there with the nvidia driver, but the screen goes black anytime I try to use it. No solution.

#2. Ubiconnect won’t work with Ann 1800 even though it’s good on proton.db and others are reporting it works great, I was never ever able to get it working or find reliable steps to get it working.

It’s a needle in a haystack trying to find fixes for things like this. Linux offers a lot, but still doesn’t offer the most important thing ease of fixing problems quickly so you can just do what you want to do.

Run a game and work at the native resolution.

SL3wvmnas,

Yea thats how my spouses laptop ended up with fedora and our main/gaming PC ended up with Nobara. For some reason certain distros and certain configurations do not go well with each other.

TanteRegenbogen,

To point 1.: WTF?

Sabata11792,

#1. Can’t do 4k 340hz on my display port 1.4 cable. Even though I can on windows and Mac. In Linux the option is there with the nvidia driver, but the screen goes black anytime I try to use it. No solution.

I had a similar issue on my 1080ti, I fixed it by setting Adaptive Sync to Never in my display settings.

DimFisher, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@DimFisher@lemmy.world avatar

Does it really matter? I have xemu (xbox emulator), retroarch for anything else, and PSX2 to be sure on Lubuntu, combine together how many games all those have and you just don’t need steam

Worstdriver, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I have no plans to either update to win11 or change back to chanting magic spells at my computer to get it to work (Ubuntu, many years ago).

My computer works and does everything I want it to. Basic internet security and reasonable precautions are sufficient for a low level user like me to stay safe.

ploot,

The Linux experience has changed quite a lot over the years. You’re unlikely to have trouble getting your computer to work with it now.

Worstdriver,

Possibly/Probably but as I said. Right now win 10 runs all my productivity, gaming and streaming software such as OBS and Veadotube.

They run and run well. I have literally no incentive to switch to either a Linux distro or win11. If that changes, then I’ll consider changing my OS, but until then…why would anyone?

darthelmet, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I got a new PC recently so unfortunately I am now on Windows 11. I’ve been wanting to make the swap to Linux but I can’t really make a clean break because at least some of the games I play a lot won’t work on Linux. I do think I’m gonna try to set up another hard drive with Linux on it to try to slowly start learning it and ideally move over anything that I can over there eventually and just keep the windows drive for those few games.

Does anyone have any recommendations related to that? Distro for gaming/ease of use? What’s the best option for setting up the dual boot? Anything I wouldn’t have thought of that’s relevant?

Zwrt,

What games are they?

One of the reasons i am sticking with Arch is because steamdeck os is build on it, whats good enough to game for valve is good enough for me.

I have both Arch and my old windows install on separate m.2 ssds. By default i log into the arch one which uses the windows ssd as a game installation drive.

This way when i do have to use windows for some game modding or testing, i can easily access and sometimes run the games from there.

darthelmet,

There’s a spattering of steam games that don’t list Linux support. Probably the ones I play the most are Deep Rock Galactic and Last Epoch. Outside of Steam I play TFT a lot, which doesn’t work on Linux since they added the anti-cheat software.

Zwrt,

Those first two are reported to work incredibly well using proton compatibility on steam. Proton is not the same as native support, which is why its not mentioned in any official game Information but it is native to steam. (Also works in heroic and litrus for gog/epic/other)

A platinum (community) rating is as high as it gets, may as well be native or better then on windows.

www.protondb.com/app/548430

www.protondb.com/app/899770

For TFT i found they use the same anti cheat as some other games. Used to work before, no longer does now but with dual boot all your current stuff is just a minute away (windows updates not included)

darthelmet,

Cool. Didn’t know about that site. Thanks.

Kurallier,
@Kurallier@programming.dev avatar

If you’re a tech savvy person then I’d recomend Arch, but if you’d prefer a more streamlined approach then Baazite, PopOs, and Mint are all good starting points. As for dual booting, no matter which distro of linux you use you’ll use something called GRUB. The tl;dr of grub is that it’ll let you select which operating system you want to boot into when you boot up your pc

Buddahriffic,

Just in case you are thinking this like I used to, don’t go by “unplayable on steam deck” to determine what games you won’t be able to play on a Linux desktop. While those games include incompatible with Linux games, they also include ones that the deck hardware can’t handle at a decent framerate but otherwise play fine on Linux.

darthelmet,

Oh I was looking at system requirements on the store page. Is that accurate?

MoistOwlette,

no. you can play a crap load of “windows only” games on linux. the trick is to enable steam play in steam settings and use community versions of proton. works like a charm

racketlauncher831,

Since your computer is running Windows 11 already, I would recommend you look for a Linux distro without considering if it’s gaming-friendly. Linux is great for certain productivity tasks.

For dualbooting, most official Linux installation guides offer detailed steps for that. Grub (the boot management program) is well tested and widely used.

argarath, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I was running mint, but had to go back to windows because of a hardware bug I’m still trying to fix where my PC will randomly not wake up from sleep and that results in corrupted drives, which windows can fix with it’s automated repair at boot, but Linux has done commands that I need to run and if I fuck it up it would fuck my computer up even more, so until I can fix the hardware bug I’m stuck on windows, but by fuck do I hate it. I prefer Linux so much more over windows, so much more convenient, efficient, personalizable and it actually works in many places where windows simply doesn’t even with a lot of fiddling around in settings and shit

TheKracken,

Do you have a swap partition? Is it the correct size? Also I think you can do a drive check on boot by changing an option in fstab.

argarath,

I’ve even taken out the drive that I had Linux installed, windows still has the issue, it started barely happening a year or so ago but recently it’s gotten much much worse and it happens in waves(?) where it’ll not have any issues for several days and then one day it will fail to wake up every time it goes to sleep, except when I’m testing. I recall testing the drive check on both Linux and windows, but both came out clean.

My bf and I have narrowed it down to probably being the power supply (last year there were a bunch of power outages after a historical flood here in southern Brazil) but the ram is also unstable at timings that it used to run perfectly fine, but the ram test came out clean so it’s a big mess of possibilities RN. I’m just waiting for Monday to be able to buy a new power supply and a UPS to test, but even then we’re still unsure if this will truly fix it or if I’ll need to get a new motherboard.

Tangent5280,

Hey, what’s your usecase like that requires sleep in the first place? I’ve never used Sleep since I moved to using an SSD as a boot drive. My computer boots in around 12 seconds with the SSD that it just made sleep unnecessary.

argarath,

I keep getting called away from my computer in the middle of whatever I’m doing and I don’t want to leave it unlocked while I’m away and I don’t want to have to reopen 4 or 5 programs including a game, if I could shut it down instead of sleeping I would but sadly I can’t

AceFuzzLord, do games w Are there any games you don't play as it was intended to be played? If so, what game and how?

If I can get it working, I will absolutely use debug mode on pokemon fan games because it saves me time not to have to do things like going back for healing my party, grinding to a certain level defeating bosses I’m not supposed to using cheated in legendaries, etcetera.

Definitely not developer intended, nor am I sure this would count for an intended answer to the question. Otherwise, I cannot think of any other answers to this question.

BingBong, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Bought my wife a framework laptop, slapped fedora on it and have been helping her make the switch. So far so good other than Obsidian not working the same as OneNote.

naticus,

How’ve you/her liked the Framework? Which one did you get? I’ve been considering one for months but I don’t have a huge need but it’d be nice to have a solid laptop rather than my Chromebook that I’m running Arch on when I’m on my couch.

BingBong,

Framework 13 DIY edition. I’ve been quite happy so far and so has she. Configuring it was trivial and the one issue I ran into (setting up backups) was due to my not being familiar with fedora and KDE. Build quality is good, the bezel was the only part that gave me pause. She doesn’t use it a ton so it’s likely any minor nagging quirks will take a while to tease out.

naticus,

Cool, thank you. What’s up with the bezel? Flimsy?

BingBong,

It was tricky to get it to snap into place cleanly and I had to jostle some of the monitor wires into place while installing. The instructions did note that this was a common challenge point and so I was prepared for moving the wires. Once installed it’s good quality.

communist,
@communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

I recommend trying out zim, I love it!

njm1314, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Well my PC can’t do windows 11, and upgrading is now impossible thanks to a certain someone. So yeah…

Showroom7561,

My 15 year old desktop also “couldn’t do windows 11”, but you can bypass whatever bullshit limitations Microsoft puts on the installation process. That computer has been running 11 for several years now without any issues at all. Rock solid.

buddascrayon, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I had read that Steam on WINE is pretty stable. Is it not?

theneverfox,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

Steam runs natively and uses proton for game compatibility, similar idea to wine but it’s geared for games

It’s pretty good. Most games will run, sometimes with a little jiggling to get it to work, although performance isn’t quite as good (some games are particularly rough)

I’m technically dual booting, but I haven’t launched Windows in almost a year, and there’s only been a handful of games I passed on primarily because of support

buddascrayon,

I have a small laptop that I’m testing this stuff out on before I put together a new computer from parts I ordered before the tariffs took effect.

theneverfox,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

My top pick right now is fedora silverblue, I’m running it on my test bed/server and I’ve been impressed

I’m running bazzite on my main one, which is related but geared towards steam and maximizing game support, it’s pretty good and closer to “just works” for any kind of gaming device, it’s less polished but it’s still pretty good

chronicledmonocle, (edited )

Valve made a compatibility layer for the Steam Deck and Linux called Proton. It uses a lot of technologies, including WINE, dxvk, and more to make Windows games run well on Linux. It basically takes Windows API calls and translates them to Linux with little to no performance penalty.

Steam also has native builds for Windows, macOS, ChromeOS, and Linux now, so you can just install it. Most Linux distros have Steam right in their software manager now.

Typically, unless the game has blocked Linux with something like kernel-level anticheat, it’ll “just work” on Linux now. There is a community database called ProtonDB that has a list of games and how well they do or don’t work.

Hope this helps and feel free to ask any questions.

Someone8765210932, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I technically have a Win10+Linux dual boot setup right now, but I haven’t used the Linux install in forever, and I think it’s broken. So I’ll probably fix this and then use Linux when possible and continue using the unsupported win10 for everything that needs windows.

I remember people mentioning the win10 LTCS version with 10 years support, but I’m not going to buy anything from them. Maybe I’ll use it unactived if needed.

chronicledmonocle,

Cough MassGravel Activation Scripts Cough

rocky1138, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I’m a Linux user who had Windows 11 on one computer for VR but once I saw Microsoft’s CEO at Trump’s inauguration I removed that last install, deleted my Meta accounts, and put my Quest 3 in a box.

chronicledmonocle,

If you want to run VR on Linux with your Quest headset, WiVRn works absolutely flawlessly. Been running VR with my Quest 2 for a while with it.

Not sure if jailbreaks exist for the Quest 3, but I’ve considered jailbreaking my Quest 2 in order to run it without a Meta account.

rocky1138,

Thanks for this. All efforts are dead in the water until I can use it without Meta. Until then it stays in the box. Appreciate the info thought though, cheers.

chronicledmonocle,

Cheers mate

yourNewFavouriteUser, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

linux, either endeavor or nobara

celeste, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@celeste@kbin.earth avatar

I can't afford a new computer right now and tariffs meaning higher prices means I can't anticipate affording one in the near future. My plan is to see where everything's at when they stop doing updates. Unfortunately.

Random123,

You can likely use that same pc for linux if youre open to that

celeste,
@celeste@kbin.earth avatar

I'm somewhat open to the idea, but the thought of messing up and not having any computer other than my phone until i figure it out is tough to get over.

ninjaturtle,
@ninjaturtle@lemmy.today avatar

If you can install another driver onto the computer, you can put Linux on that and kept the windows OS still, in case you need it. This is dual booting. You chose which OS you want when booting up.

celeste,
@celeste@kbin.earth avatar

Is this something that's relatively fool proof to do? I'm very good at imagining disasters. That's the big mental block I got when I thought about dual booting before.

communist,
@communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

If you install ventoy on a usb and put windows and bazzite on it, you can easily switch between things.

i have 15 years of experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot on matrix

celeste,
@celeste@kbin.earth avatar

Thank you! The wall in my brain keeping me from doing it is a bit smaller now

communist,
@communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz avatar

note that you should absolutely make a backup of all your important files before you muck about with installing different operating systems, it will wipe your drive, so, yeah.

if you do that and have both on a ventoy usb it is pretty much impossible to fuck something up

histic,

As long as you go with a mainstream distro you can’t really mess it up if you play games try bazzite it’s a atomic distro so it’s hard to break since the system files are read only and if an update breaks it has a duplicate file system to fall back on from before the update and is just as easy if not easier then windows to install

celeste,
@celeste@kbin.earth avatar

That sounds pretty cool, actually, that it.s protected against me breaking it. I've always got that worry

daggermoon,

You could always reinstall Windows if something does go wrong. Just create an installer USB as backup.

venotic, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
@venotic@kbin.melroy.org avatar

I'm not making the jump to Linux fully.

I will and have done this thing where I will wait until Microsoft has enough of their head out of their ass to make another decent Windows version again, before I consider hopping to it. They're due to make one sometime soon, don't they? They'll soon realize Windows 11 like 8, Vista and ME before it, was a stupid idea and do something nicer for Windows 12 or whatever they do with Windows next after 11. Windows 11 is already like 4 years old and one of its versions is going to expire next year. What will they do then?

Linux doesn't have my full attention because I don't think it'll run everything I use for Windows. My user activity/behavior is slowing down to where I'm probably a casual user at best who does the bare minimum. Yet, there's things I'd like to run without having to use third party software as a bridge to get to what I want to run as simple as it would if it was on Windows with a simple click or two. Oh and not to mention, hardware driver and support with Linux is one of my major concerns and I don't think there's a Linux driver for every piece of my hardware.

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