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HK65, do gaming w What do we think will be GoTY and which game do we think should be GoTY?

I was thinking of getting it, what’s up with Stalker 2?

I don’t know about the GoTY thing, this year has not been that great with games.

I’d go with either Satisfactory or Slay the Princess, despite neither of them being real 2024 releases, they both got their most recent actually complete edition released this year, and they are better than anything else I’ve seen that was actually released this year.

Maybe MSFS 2024, but it’s niche and also, fuck MSFT.

Best game I bought myself this year is Hearts of Iron 4.

PonyOfWar,

I was thinking of getting it, what’s up with Stalker 2?

It’s very buggy and an absolute mess from a technological perspective. The NPC simulation has been restricted to a tiny radius around the player, so you can for example see snipers spawn in when you get close to their towers. Even with that limited distance, the game is very CPU bound and performance takes a huge hit in populated areas. In general the NPC AI is pretty braindead and much worse than previous Stalker games. I’ve had to reload earlier saves a couple of times due to NPCs randomly getting hostile, the conversation UI staying permanently on screen and other progression stoppers. The graphics completely rely on TAA or DLSS and look like a checkerboarded mess without them. Despite all that though, I think it’s a pretty fun game and a remarkable achievement given the circumstances of its development.

Bougie_Birdie,
@Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I haven’t played Stalker 2 so I don’t really have a dog in this fight, but it’s very politically charged and has Russian state sponsored disinformation campaigns running against it. I’m not sure that you can get a truly accurate read of it online.

The developers are Ukrainian, and development had to be paused because their office literally turned into a warzone. The fact that the game came out at all is extremely based, and that certainly adds to the mythology around the game. But again, I haven’t played it, and gameplay-wise that doesn’t actually indicate anything about the game.

I want the game to succeed because of the developers’ existential struggle. The people causing that existential struggle want the game to fail. Neither of us have actually played the game, so again, there’s all this bias around it and we haven’t even looked at gameplay yet.

Be skeptical of anything you read online

Viri4thus,

This is the actual propaganda. Play the victim card for sympathy votes…

Bougie_Birdie,
@Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Well of course the victim is going to play the victim. That’s just good marketing - and what is marketing if not propaganda?

Your comment reads as though the invading state’s actions aren’t propaganda. This is the whole reason why I came here to warn people to be skeptical of what they read online.

In an ironic twist, here’s an online source about the Russian disinformation campaign telling citizens that if you play Stalker 2 you’ll be drafted to fight in Ukraine against Russia.

Again, you should be skeptical of what you read online. In a vacuum, I’m inclined to believe the victim of invasion. In reality, I know that the situation is more nuanced - although the credibility of the aggressor is extremely suspect.

For what it’s worth, my impression on the game is that it’s yet another over-hyped game that couldn’t possibly live up to its expectations. The developers are financially incentivized to deflect that criticism through any means available to them. But that doesn’t mean I don’t acknowledge that malicious actors are also trying to discredit the game.

Viri4thus,

I’ll buy the game in a year when most game breaking bugs have been corrected. I’m a fan of GSC and own the three prior games. My favorite is Call of Pripyat, it was so revolutionary that I was able to identify pripyat in film. I love these games. That said, that whole “Russian campaign” to discredit S2 is complete and utter BS. As soon as you start digging there’s literally no credible source for that info. It was a clever marketing ploy, good on them. It still doesn’t make the bugs not exist and the fact they sold their souls to MS and had to release a broken game because Ms likely refused to concede any further extensions is the real news there, but, of course, the marketing machine had to redirect from the fact MS is to blame for the state the game released in. The head of GSC tweeted the could not further delay the game. Anyone can read between the lines. Fuck MS.

squid_slime,

I’m not into or even a fan of the PC vs console war, but watching a franchise I hold at such high regard release with missing complex features like A-Life, and simplified AI in general, going for an 80meter spawn radius with messy cool down timers which spawn enemy AI on a loop.

Other things like the over use of lip service through iconic mutants turning up way too often also using the same spawn loop system which repopulates every few minutes.

Loot balance, in the original medkits were very necessary but were in short supply meaning when going out the player would do everything to avoid damage making for an even tenser atmosphere, stalker 2 however the player will find medkits, bandages, a sausage and a bottle of vodka every 10 metres. Things like body armours and weapons are thrown at the player through out the main story negating any sense of achievement.

Difficulty, in the original trilogy the game loop was cautious but in combat act fast, moving from cover to cover as the enemy was unpredictable, they would retreat and push as well as flank, now in stalker 2 enemies always know the players location but no fear as the player is a walking pharmacy and combat has turned into shoot get hit use meds and repeat, essentially its very hard to die in stalker 2 while also having laser accuracy for AI but its no issue as the abundance of meds negate that issue.

Then there’s the bugs, its alpha build. Bugs that block main quests, bugs which put random items in inventory, and bugs that make anomalies invisible.

Its also missing little touches that I have come to expect, no AI companions for quests, no mutant parts making hunting and even fighting mutants a thankless task, the flash light sucks, no NVGs, no roaming NPCs, blind dogs don’t retreat when one is injured, bloodsuckers are missing their glowing eyes, unkillable enemy AI with snipers to stop the player from progressing, factions feel like a gimmick whereas they were the bread and butter in the original trilogy, no tiredness out side of the debuff effect from certain enemy’s, limited NPC dialogue, lack of consumable variation, no buff debuff icon/timers apart from bleeding. and so on.

Most of the people who enjoy the game seem talk about it as a predecessor to fallouts franchise or measure it against other major AAA games open world games, which tbh its in that realm now, I wouldn’t call it a stalker game but maybe in a year after modding tools are releases it will be a successor to one of my favourite franchises. Currently though its locked down by console hardware and made by a studio thats lost teach.

Anyway I have played 120 hours and I think for any one new to the franchise they should wait another 6 months so they can get a better idea of the zone. For old timers give it a go to scratch the itch but don’t expect to be blown away.

soulsource,
@soulsource@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I just finished The Pristine Cut of Slay the Princess, and I fully agree that it should be the GOTY.

It’s amazing how different it feels when you play a really excellent game. With most games I regularly pause and tab out, to browse the web. With Slay the Princess I did not. It completely absorbed me, even though it was my second play-through.

Leeks, do gaming w The Steam Autumn Sale 🎮 is over, what did everyone get?

Factorio Space Age, but it wasn’t on sale.

kazerniel, do games w What are some great games that require you to bust out a notebook and pen?
@kazerniel@lemmy.world avatar

My most recent such games were Her Story and Return of the Obra Dinn.

During Her Story I ended up with an A5 sheet full of keyword ideas I wanted to search the recordings for.

Obra Dinn had me draw multiple iterations of a ship deck while trying to figure out who was likely to sleep in which hammock :D

silverchase, do games w Are there games with real collision detection?
@silverchase@sh.itjust.works avatar

There are high-polish VR shooters, like Half-Life Alyx, Boneworks, and Vertigo 2, which obviously care about where your hands and other body parts are. Boneworks attempts melee combat, but it’s pretty janky. In Half-Life Alyx, you use your hands to rummage around junk to find resources. In Vertigo 2, if you get hit by arrows or thrown spears, you have to pull them out of your body, and there’s a section where you steer a boat.

lime, do games w Are there games with real collision detection?
@lime@feddit.nu avatar

are you talking specifically about melee combat?

things like beamng, arma, toribash, receiver, poly bridge, are all very much physical

lemba,

Not only but mainly yes

lemba,

Thx, I will have a look into these games.

Ashtear, do games w Got 20 euro, what game/games to get on steam autumn sale?

Darkest Dungeon, Jedi Fallen Order, and Titanfall 2 are all super cheap. Darkest Dungeon pissed me off 15 hours in or so, enough to ragequit the game, and I’d still consider it well worth the current price.

Disco Elysium and the original Hades are also great buys at 10€.

rockerface,

I second Darkest Dungeon and Hades

JoeKrogan, do games w Got 20 euro, what game/games to get on steam autumn sale?
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

Halo MCC , half life 1 and 2 , portal 1 and 2.

kazerniel, do games w What are your favorite "gotta go in blind" games?
@kazerniel@lemmy.world avatar
missingno, do games w In a bit of a pre upgrade slump, what do you recommend?
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Anything 2D should run on a toaster.

I'm legally obligated to shill CrossCode as the greatest RPG ever made.

inclementimmigrant, do games w Got 20 euro, what game/games to get on steam autumn sale?

Of you like x-com I’d recommend Tactical Beach Wizards. Bit on the higher side of 16 USD unfortunately.

lud,

Tactical Beach Wizards is really good.

I bought it at launch because I know that the dev is just amazing and it completely checked out.

I also highly recommended heat signature and gunpoint by the same dev.

spleaque, do games w What are your most recent games played?

Currently playing Half Life 2. Got it for free and i love it.

M137, do games w What are your most recent games played?
@M137@lemmy.world avatar

I play games too much, so I’ll categorise them:

New ones I’ve finished and absolutely loved: Dragon Age: The Veilguard and Star Wars: Outlaws

Not new ones that I’m currently playing and really like so far: Days Gone and Mad Max

Not new ones that I’m currently playing that I’m unsure if I like, be it because of the game itself or technical issues: Enshrouded, Horizon Forbidden West, and Satisfactory

Ones I’ve played for some time and won’t stop playing anytime soon (and obviously love): Warframe and Minecraft

TachyonTele,

Mad Max is fun. But it never holds my interest for long.

Valencia,

What’d you like about veilguard? Were you a big fan of the series before? I want to buy it but the changes from the first one put a pretty bad taste in my mouth.

CitizenKong,

Not OP, but it’s a very good game that gets better the longer you play it. It more like Mass Effect than Dragon Age in many ways though, but the final stretch especially was almost on the same level as the suicide mission of ME2 IMO. Characters and gameplay are great, dialogue and level design could have been better and the only element that really sucked for me are the godawful outfits and weapons and lack of variation thereof.

nek0d3r, do games w What are your favorite "gotta go in blind" games?
@nek0d3r@lemmy.world avatar

I had this kind of moment with Prey.

Skua, do games w What are your most recent games played?
  • Elden Ring. Only the base game, and this is my first run. I have been very thorough with it, though. I'm currently trying to beat Malenia, then it's off to do the last boss
  • Victoria 2. Weekly multiplayer session with a couple of friends. It's 1915, and my people have just elected an anti-military party that is really hampering my efforts to swing a big imperialist stick around
  • Lorn's Lure. PS2 graphics, generous 3D platforming mechanics, and an impossibly vast and desolate megastructure to explore. Well I'm playing the demo of it, anyway. I am going to get the full version, it made a good impression.
TachyonTele,

My friend that really doesn’t play many games loved Elden Ring. And ive listened to a lot of lore videos from Dark Souls to Elden Ring. But my PC probably can’t handle the game. I can’t wait to eventually be horrible at it though.

Skua,

It's great fun! So long as you're on board with the experience it is trying to create, of course. FromSoft are good at what they do and don't much care for whether or not what they do is everyone's cup of tea

I'd love to try Bloodborne, because that gameplay combined with a bit of cosmic horror sounds amazing to me. I'll have to either wait for a PC port or learn about emulation, though

The thing that stuck out to me more than I expected about it is how painterly it often feels. It's exceptionally good at framing its environments in a spectacular or pleasing way even while the player has full control of the camera. I'm not usually one to worry about visuals too much, but this game's environments really stuck out to me. And while it is very high-fidelity and nicely rendered, it's less about the actual graphical performance than it is about the design of the environments

Gerudo,

I don’t like souls like games. I LOVED Elden Ring. It was the exact balance of controller destroying and fun.

Crashumbc, do games w What are your favorite "gotta go in blind" games?

Dishonored

TBH though, most if not all games are better blind.

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