I am a huge Pathfinder fan (check my home instance) and have played both games.
Tl;dr, play Wrath. The plots of both games are standalone.
I hated Kingmaker. Incredibly frustrating experience. The game is difficult, buggy, the writing is beautiful in places and baffling in others, and the kingdom management is balanced poorly. It’s easy to get yourself into a death spiral on kingdom management that takes 50 hours to play out (which then gives you an instant game over).
However, Wrath of the Righteous is one of my favorite CRPGs. I have roughly 200 hours in it. The writing for companions is much better in this one and while the army management side game still isn’t good, it is a lot less frustrating and opaque than the kingdom management mini game. There are still some bugs… I had one game-breaking bug where I had to install a mod to teleport out of an inaccessible area after the game deleted an elevator. My only other complaint is that the ending was clearly rushed, but the campaign is about 100 hours and most of it is of excellent quality. Overall it’s very worth it. The different mythic paths have tons of interactivity in the world, so it really changes each playthrough when you make different choices.
Also kudos to Wrath for well written evil companions and choices! You can be a psychopath that kills everyone you come across if you want (and there’s even a mythic path tailored exactly to that), but there are also more subtle choices that allow you to twist the crisis at the Worldwound to your advantage (try Lich!). It is still satisfying to be a big damn hero, too.
Rogue likes usually have very little story getting in the way. Binding of Isaac, Slay the Spire, Nova Drift, Darkest Dungeon are a few of my top played. I also really enjoy the make your own adventure Creative Survival type games like Minecraft, Astoneer, Terraria, Starbound, Empyrion Galactic Survival etc. City builders, colony sims and Farming Sims are always a good choice too. Some of my favorites are Cities: Skylines, Banished, Timberborn, Forager, The Anno series, Stardew Valley. Then there’s the pure building games. I really enjoy just building stuff and testing my creations out with games like Scrap Mechanic, Instruments of Destruction, Main Assembly, Cosmoteer, Reassembly, Kerbal Space Progam (the first game, Id wait on the second until all the bugs are fixed). Hack and Slash ARPGs are always fun for turning the brain off and most of them dont have a ton of story, save for a few cut scenes here and there. Path of Exile, Torchlight, Diablo 1 and 2 (I don’t like 3 and 4 personally) Grimm Dawn, Cronichon, Fate, Last Epoch are some of my favorites.
I’d say start with Wrath and don’t bother with Kingmaker. Wrath is just much more interesting both as a game and as a concept, and there’s no shortage of replayability there - the amount of variability between paths is crazy. That said, whichever game you start with, I’d strongly recommend you download a mod to trivialise the management minigame (kingdom management for Kingmaker, crusade management for Wrath). They’re a) not fun, b) difficult (and unlike the rest of the game have no difficulty settings), c) have nothing to do with the core RPG gameplay, and d) can brick your campaign if you screw them up.
Also, you know about Baldur’s Gate 3, right? It’s coming out in two weeks after a very long and successful early access period and it very much looks like all the crazy reactivity of Wrath on a full AA budget.
That said, whichever game you start with, I’d strongly recommend you download a mod to trivialise the management minigame
d) can brick your campaign if you screw them up.
Wow wtf, really? Thank you very much for the tip!
Yeah, I know about Baldur’s Gate 3. Made by Larian, no less, so my expectations are kinda high. I played (but never finished) the first one and I remember liking it at the time but thinking it was a bit dated. But I loved the traditional CRPG experience so I hope they stay true to that, more or less.
They are completely separate story-wise. Kingmaker’s story is IMO a bit easier to follow at the beginning. WOTR is newer though and therefore has more character customization options. They both use the same engine and the gameplay is almost identical.
Oh ok, good to know, thanks! I don’t mind harder to follow stories, and having more character customization options is always a good thing for me. I guess I’ll go with WOTR.
One other thing worth mentioning: both games have a DLC which lets you play like an infinite roguelike dungeon crawl which is super fun. I probably have more hours in the respective roguelike DLCs for both than I do for either of their campaigns. I just love the idea of taking classic CRPG/D&D mechanics and giving it progression like Slay The Spire
You can always connect your quest to pc right? (Hope OP has a good computer to do that, haven’t checked the quest 2 but I remember how much worse roborecall looked on quest 1)
I just discovered this game this past weekend and it is sooo good. I wanted a fairly mindless “kill a bunch of guys and keep my hand busy” type of game, and that’s exactly what I got.
A survival game akin to rimworld, banished or project zomboid except food is insanely realistic. Crops take ages to grow, hunting a deer should be a massive victory that secures you for a while, you could become nutrient-deficient by only plowing down heads of cabbage, and so on…
I would say Project Zombiod the closest one on that list. Just need a few mods to raise the hunger rate, more comprehensive nutrient stats, and farm difficulty scaling. The game already laid out most of the groundwork.
Unreal world is a roguelike based in iron age Finland which fits almost exactly like you are describing except it’s a single pawn you control and not a colony.
I run it through Steam as a “non-Steam” game via Proton and have also run it with Lutris. It runs on both 100% fine, if not even better than Windows. In fact, this game running great has convinced me to finally drop my dual boot!
that works as well, but there is a linux client called heroic that works for both epic and gog which helps makes things simpler for setting up the games to work, so i think that would be easier than using proton or lutris
I just want a vehicle game that is open world, with roads and trails, the vehicles don’t have to be licensed. I just want to travel and explore, basically a road trip simulator. The Crew, Forza Horizon, and NFS Heat/Unbound are the closest I can get, I don’t care for the density, just distance. This is why I know that it will never be a reality, because without having mechanics, would make the game boring to many.
Basically a remake or continuation of Fuel (2009), I really enjoyed the vastness of the world, it wasn’t anything really special, but to me I had so much fun exploring and seeing the distance of the massive world(5,560 square miles/14,400 square kilometers). The many regions around the map were diverse and there was 16 player multiplayer where others just popped in and out as you moved around, I didn’t really care for it much, but it was fun for group road trips or adventures.
I hadn’t thought of that, I played Euro Truck for a little bit, it’s been a few years now, all the new expansions and areas, and I see there’s American Truck too. Thanks for reminding me!
I think I want a game featuring Aztecs, Mayans, Incas and / or Olmecs (hell, any “New World” civilization) in a city building, RPG or RTS setting. Not enough focus is paid to what happened in South America or American southwest
Steam deck, which gives access to a large subset of PC games and also just about every console up to the PS2/Gamecube/Xbox era plus the Wii via emulation (no jailbreaking required).
Switch, which gives access to a lot of the best WiiU games as expanded ports plus some spruced up versions of Nintendo’s back catalogue.
PS5, which gives access to most of the best PS3 and PS4 games via PS+.
Xbox Series S/X, which has backwards compatibility with the Xbox One and Xbox 360 for some (most?) games.
There will be some slight gaps in backwards compatibility/emulator compatibility for some games, but I suspect the biggest remaining gap will be PC games not capable of running on the Steam deck.
I do currently have a Switch hooked up, but I’m thinking of removing the dock since my partner exclusively plays it handheld and since getting my Steam Deck, I haven’t touched the Switch except to dump games I pick up to emulate elsewhere. I played all of Tears of the Kingdom emulated, though that had to be played on my main rig since the Steam Deck would dip under 30fps too much for my taste.
Steam Deck seems to be a good fit. If you wanna get a gaming laptop, maybe wait until there’s one where you can easily swap out the batteries / components. I’ve seen videos about Framework laptop, and that does sound like a good investment for longer period.
I heard there were issues with ROG Ally, the device gets too hot, and the fan exhaust was near the SD card slot. So it frequently dislodges the SD cards from the slot because of the heat.
Check out other Assassin’s Creed games! I agree that Red Dead Redemption is anther good suggestion. I suggest the first one as well. Maybe Fable? The second one was my favorite, but people rave about the first one as well. I didn’t play the first one until I didn’t have as much time to game.
This might be a miss, but the Sims can be insane with mods. You can cheat their needs and not worry about those. Sims 3 is open world and the best of the series, but I’m not as familiar with the mods available for it. There are Sims 4 mods that introduce murder (guns and knives provided of course), drugs and gangs, zombies, prostitution, murderous toddlers, and much more that I can’t think of right now.
Modders are fucking lunatics when it comes to the Sims. Someone made a mod for Sims 3 where you could grill and eat a baby. EA stepped in to shut that down…
Finger slipped and accidentally deleted my comment instead of editing a comma in. Here we go again:
Someone made a mod for Sims 3 where you could grill and eat a baby
I remember this! It was the OMGWTFBBQ. I only remember a Sims 2 version, though. The Sims 2 version can still be downloaded here, it’s just not on modthesims.info anymore.
I agree with the other Assassins creed games. At least with Odyssey, that’s what I played most. You can explore all of ancient Greece and there are lots of really good and fun side quests. Just don’t think of it as a pure stealth game, like the first game was, more like an action adventure with stealth elements, or you might be a bit disappointed.
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